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There's absolutely no chance that buying the houses behind the Main Stand would cost even close to what a new stadium would cost.
About £2.5m (21 houses @ £120k)
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You are right, it was supplemented by large clubs of today. However away supporters didn’t trave in such large numbers. You have to remember everyone had to go by single carriageway roads, no M180 etc. and had to get across Keadby bridge. So Travel from Leeds, Sheffield and so on was a long old haul..
Certainly the period from 1979/80 season to 1986/87 season was a " purple patch" in average attendances at BP and has not been reached since. This was a period when the official capacity at BP exceeded 20,000. 1979/80 we were in the old Div 3 and got promoted with an average BP attendance of10,618. The following season in Div 2 we averaged 10,961 but then , for whatever reasons, over the next 6 seasons the average attendance dropped each year until our relegation in 1986/87 when we averaged 5050. The averages were 1981/82 - 8406, 1982/83 -7745, 1983/84 - 7643 ( and we finished 5 th in Div 2 ), 1984/85 - 6640 ( finished 10th Div 2) and 1985/86 - 5157 ( finished 15th Div 2 ). There certainly seemed to be an apathy or disinterest in watching town at BP despite the fact that we were in the equivalent of the Championship then. The 1983/84 season is particularly interesting considering our final league position. Even London clubs like Crystal Palace, Fulham and Charlton attracted attendances below 6100 with the lowest attendances 4825 against Oldham and 4826 against Blackburn Rovers.
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As it was once said, " Build it and they will come" LoL !
Your market research is field of dreams? I mean, a man who made a baseball pitch in his garden for ghosts? That's your role model?!
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Certainly the period from 1979/80 season to 1986/87 season was a " purple patch" in average attendances at BP and has not been reached since. This was a period when the official capacity at BP exceeded 20,000. 1979/80 we were in the old Div 3 and got promoted with an average BP attendance of10,618. The following season in Div 2 we averaged 10,961 but then , for whatever reasons, over the next 6 seasons the average attendance dropped each year until our relegation in 1986/87 when we averaged 5050. The averages were 1981/82 - 8406, 1982/83 -7745, 1983/84 - 7643 ( and we finished 5 th in Div 2 ), 1984/85 - 6640 ( finished 10th Div 2) and 1985/86 - 5157 ( finished 15th Div 2 ). There certainly seemed to be an apathy or disinterest in watching town at BP despite the fact that we were in the equivalent of the Championship then. The 1983/84 season is particularly interesting considering our final league position. Even London clubs like Crystal Palace, Fulham and Charlton attracted attendances below 6100 with the lowest attendances 4825 against Oldham and 4826 against Blackburn Rovers.
Heysel1985 and the subsequent lengthy European ban had a substantial effect on attendances across the English game . Football supporters were regarded as caged pyrahas in many parts of society. Then there was Hillsborough and all seater stadiums . It took the birth of the Premier league and more widespread televised live football to rehabilitate the game . Our attendances mirrored that trend and would have been much lower had we not been in the top half of the championship equivalent at the tiime.
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Whatever they say on record maybe different to what Stockwood & Pettit think .
Simple maths gives you the conclusion that we need more capacity just based on the fact we are using the osmond corner and filling it for half the games at least so we are typically 500 + over our natural home capacity for half the big games without being able to offer 600 more away tickets . Viability must be the issue you would suspect.
I still think there is room for hundreds of seats as it stands to be added probably not 1000's but the main has a bit at the back , and the pontoon has the room for 80-100 more at the back . Reconfiguring the seats might add aswell . It would be interesting to know if they have looked into any of this or not .
The main needs a new roof sometime soon at least you would suspect .
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This has been done to death before, because the ground is built up to houses, the locals would block it, and it would be impossible to get planning permission, no council would allow it. Buying up the houses, as has been sugested, would cost more than building a new stadium, and that's if all the residents were willing to sell.
The catchment area for us is over 200,000, including parts of N. Lincolnshire and Lincolnshire, with no real rivals for support other than say Lincoln, maybe Hull if they get back into the prem.That's about the same as Ipswich for example.There's no reason why we couldn't do well with the right investment and foresight, but that is what is so lacking.We are one of the few clubs that have taken over 30,000 to Wembley in the lower leagues. The potential is there, it just needs realising.
Has anyone actually asked the opinion of the people who live in the houses on Harrington St instead of just guessing that they’d block ang proposed new main stand ?
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Has anyone actually asked the opinion of the people who live in the houses on Harrington St instead of just guessing that they’d block ang proposed new main stand ?
The law of averages would probably indicate that few wouldn't be too happy with it. We hear a lot about NIMBYs, but this would really be a pretty substantial development by their back yard!
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The relief road would go from the roundabout near Great Coates to the roundabout near Morrisons on the Laceby By-pass.
I think the locals were up in arms about it and don't want it not the council.
A lot of people on the Wybers where up in arms about it and voted in a councillor who was against it. Seems madness to me. I live nearby and anything that eases the traffic on great Coates road is a no brainer to me. Only at the weekend someone was killed on that road and its a bottleneck for people leaving the town, especially so when the A180 is closed
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Has anyone actually asked the opinion of the people who live in the houses on Harrington St instead of just guessing that they’d block ang proposed new main stand ?
They would be informed of any developments of course, but the oft repeated claim that residents can stop stuff getting built just by opposing it is simply not true, but is often repeated on here. There is a pre existing structure for a start, so it's not like the residents will suddenly have their view spoiled by a stand appearing over the summer. "I don't like it" is not a valid reason to get something blocked. Not that I'm expecting the owners to go this route anyway, but if they did, there would be a consultation with the residents, and it would get the go ahead in my opinion.
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