Blundell Park

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NOT TO BIG ..a ground  not a stadium..as away fans could taunt with the old favorite  " Your Grounds to big for you !" Colchester and Oxford  Utd, Gillingham spring to mind.
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Call me simplistic but whilst cost might be an issue for a new main stand, I really don't think space should be. If a stand were to be built full length, even with leg room and at the same height/depth I'd guess we could have a stand that holds 3,500 and if you look at the Pontoon, you can see at that end the stand doesn't quite extend full width so maybe a new Main Stand could be moved a bit further forward too to provide more space.

The ground is right up against the houses, don't think for a minute they would want stands that are higher and tower over their property. The council would never allow it

Quoted from mimma

The ground is right up against the houses, don't think for a minute they would want stands that are higher and tower over their property. The council would never allow it

Buy why would it have to? In fact given the shape of the current Main Stand roof sloping up, it may actually not be as high.

This has been done to death before, because the ground is built up to houses, the locals would block it, and it would be impossible to get planning permission, no council would allow it. Buying up the houses, as has been sugested, would cost more than building a new stadium, and that's if all the residents were willing to sell.

The catchment area for us is over 200,000, including parts of N. Lincolnshire and Lincolnshire, with no real rivals for support other than say Lincoln, maybe Hull if they get back into the prem.That's about the same as Ipswich for example.There's no reason why we couldn't do well with the right investment and foresight, but that is what is so lacking.We are one of the few clubs that have taken over 30,000 to Wembley in the lower leagues. The potential is there, it just needs realising.

Quoted from mimma

This has been done to death before, because the ground is built up to houses, the locals would block it, and it would be impossible to get planning permission, no council would allow it. Buying up the houses, as has been sugested, would cost more than building a new stadium, and that's if all the residents were willing to sell.

The catchment area for us is over 200,000, including parts of N. Lincolnshire and Lincolnshire, with no real rivals for support other than say Lincoln, maybe Hull if they get back into the prem.That's about the same as Ipswich for example.There's no reason why we couldn't do well with the right investment and foresight, but that is what is so lacking.We are one of the few clubs that have taken over 30,000 to Wembley in the lower leagues. The potential is there, it just needs realising.

I agree with the 200k figure because a lot of North Lincolnshire and East Lindsey is prime Mariners territory so the potential is obviously there.

I think the point about a new Main stand is that the outlook would be much improved for the residents, instead of the hotchpotch of stuff there now. A good architect will work wonders.

Let's hope we get a successful period and we really have to increase capacity and make big improvements to BP.

Quoted from mimma

This has been done to death before, because the ground is built up to houses, the locals would block it, and it would be impossible to get planning permission, no council would allow it. Buying up the houses, as has been sugested, would cost more than building a new stadium, and that's if all the residents were willing to sell.

The catchment area for us is over 200,000, including parts of N. Lincolnshire and Lincolnshire, with no real rivals for support other than say Lincoln, maybe Hull if they get back into the prem.That's about the same as Ipswich for example.There's no reason why we couldn't do well with the right investment and foresight, but that is what is so lacking.We are one of the few clubs that have taken over 30,000 to Wembley in the lower leagues. The potential is there, it just needs realising.

There's absolutely no chance that buying the houses behind the Main Stand would cost even close to what a new stadium would cost.

We would have to have significant playing success for a sustained period before we could hope to attract the kind of gates that would make any development worthwhile.

Even under Buckley the crowds weren't massive, we had a real purple patch in the late 70s and early 80s. when we'd often break 10K+ but if I recall right that was often supplemented by Sheff U/W, Barnsley, Rotherham and clubs like Leeds and Wolves who where at that level too.

"Build it and they will come" has far too much risk attached.

You are right, it was supplemented by large clubs of today. However away supporters didn’t trave in such large numbers. You have to remember everyone had to go by single carriageway roads, no M180 etc. and had to get across Keadby bridge. So Travel from Leeds, Sheffield and so on was a long old haul..

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We would have to have significant playing success for a sustained period before we could hope to attract the kind of gates that would make any development worthwhile.

Even under Buckley the crowds weren't massive, we had a real purple patch in the late 70s and early 80s. when we'd often break 10K+ but if I recall right that was often supplemented by Sheff U/W, Barnsley, Rotherham and clubs like Leeds and Wolves who where at that level too.

"Build it and they will come" has far too much risk attached.

The problem is comparing decades is like comparing apples and oranges - 80's and 90's crowds were much lower throughout ,teams that get higher crowds now - Hull, Rotherham , Stockport , Bradford and Wrexham off the top of my head were getting lower than us 3 or 4k most weeks and now attract regular 5 figure crowds .

Now attendance since covid at least has had a major upturn , we are getting 6k+ regular being bottom end league 2 .

We can't offer more than 1200 to away fans which would be more of a problem a league up if we manage to get there - I don't know if there are thousands out there who want to go , but even now we need at least 1k more home seats and to be able to offer the full away end to the bigger teams .

But they obviously don't see it as viable at this time , even though early on in their second season Pettit said we were 'looking at something more permanent' in terms of capacity increase ; I'm not sure what happened with that ,maybe the nasty suprises with the Main & findus/  cost  put a stop to the idea?