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To put this debate to bed WILL ALL SEASON TICKET/ HOLDER PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ATTEND THE MANSFIELD GAME ON THE 19th AUGUST and hopefully Mansfield will sell their full allocation and we just need someone to add all the unsold tickets and take it off the official attendance SORTED
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Regards the training ground, I believe that the preferred site is identified but is tied up with wider council issues and also possibly Sport England or some government initiative on green spaces and funding.
If that's the case frankly I'd just move to the next site on the list and get on with it, inflation waits for no one.
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If that's the case frankly I'd just move to the next site on the list and get on with it, inflation waits for no one.
Cheapside must be pretty decent now given the money spent on it. I’d rather see the £7 million allegedly being earmarked for the training ground spent on a stadium.
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When I was born Grantham had a cinema with 1 screen that was built in the late 70s. They added a second screen in the late 1980s. The seats were horrible in both and it wasn't a pleasant experience to go there. We used to go to Showcase in either Nottingham or Peterborough (both around 40 minutes drive) every time we went to the cinema.
About 5 years ago the cinema was bulldozed and a 5 screen cinema was built over the site and a small adjacent council staff car park. The seats are much comfier and the experience much nice than the previous cinema.
As a result more people go to Grantham Cinema than used to go.
Build it and they will come.
I can't imagine for one minute that Stockwood with his successful career doesn't fully understand that.
If the facilities at our home ground were better (seats, no posts, nicer toilets, better catering, more spacious concourse area, better PA system etc...) then more people will come.
There are very few decent view seats left in BP for the casual fan and none at all if you want more than 1 ticket..
If the experience of attending Grimsby Town home matches was better then the attendances would rise. You only have to look at the attendance boosts that clubs who have moved from grotty old dumps to new stadiums have gained.
I appreciate JS & AP have a policy of not talking about things until they reach the point where they will become public (i.e.planning permission stage), but that policy shouldn't extend to telling blatant lies and making out BP is big enough because it was cater for all the fans that want to attend a home match against someone like Morecambe.
The point is that a company with many cinema outlets around the country can afford to speculate and afford one new outlet. The overall investment will be covered by the income from the rest of the group. Also, although I don't really know, I imagine the cost of building a new cinema complex would be less than building a football stadium. We don't have the luxury of other facets of our business to help fund and support a new ground.
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Cheapside must be pretty decent now given the money spent on it. I’d rather see the £7 million allegedly being earmarked for the training ground spent on a stadium.
You raise an interesting point regarding the training ground. Would it be possible to redevlop Cheapside in line with what they want, for a lot less? How many clubs at our level have such extraordinary training facilities that it influences players to move there? I know they have ambitious plans for things to be at the heart of the community but everything has a cost, and getting anything new done in Grimsby seems to be fraught with difficulty. I don't think we agree on the new stadium, as I think with a part rebuild BP would be good enough for our foreseeable needs, and I think a new stadium is too expensive and light years away, so I would put the savings made on a training facility into Blundell Park. Andrew Pettit is the ideal man to decide on these things given his background but even he doesn't appear to have made much progress on the training ground proposals, which could be made public at least.
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You raise an interesting point regarding the training ground.
Would it be possible to redevlop Cheapside in line with what they want, for a lot less? How many clubs at our level have such extraordinary training facilities that it influences players to move there?
I know they have ambitious plans for things to be at the heart of the community but everything has a cost, and getting anything new done in Grimsby seems to be fraught with difficulty.
I don't think we agree on the new stadium, as I think with a part rebuild BP would be good enough for our foreseeable needs, and I think a new stadium is too expensive and light years away, so I would put the savings made on a training facility into Blundell Park.
Andrew Pettit is the ideal man to decide on these things given his background but even he doesn't appear to have made much progress on the training ground proposals, which could be made public at least.
We do have different opinions regarding a stadium because I think that, despite massive differences of opinion on many issues, Fenty was right about finding new and different revenue streams. My first experience of BP was as a 4 year old in 1968 in the Main Stand and it’s as woeful now as it was then. The only difference is that there appears to be more irresponsible dog owners in Harrington Street 💩
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If we are successful this season, attendances should increase. It is a too late then to react to the need for an increased capacity. Proactive measures are better surely?
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We don't own Cheapside. That's the first big barrier towards any significant investment in the infrastructure there.
The second issue with Cheapside is the size of it. It's fairly small to be housing all sides and staff.
The third issue is the location. It's neither at the heart of the community nor easily accessible for anyone who doesn't live that way on. It's a harsh reality that players will be travelling into the area and that they'll be spending the majority of their time at the training ground as opposed to the actual ground. Adding 30-40 minutes onto someone's daily commute to get to the far side of Waltham isn't attractive.
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Average attendance in League One on Saturday was 13600 . How can we expect to function at that level on a sustainable break even basis if we don’t have significantly more capacity then we have now.That is the question I would like to here someone ask the owners.
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Average attendance in League One on Saturday was 13600 . How can we expect to function at that level on a sustainable break even basis if we don’t have significantly more capacity then we have now.That is the question I would like to here someone ask the owners.
There is that and about 10 teams being able to clear 3k away tickets if we getthere , let's hope they have a plan in place because it becomes a bit more important when you are missing out on about 50k people through the gate (££££) ballpark through a season because of a lack of capacity .
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