New roof

Quoted from DB

They could have bought them when prices were a lot lower, also they could have been purchased when available. These could have then been rented out bringing income until needed for a new stand.

Rented out to who? That's a whole different business from what a football club does, they certainly aren't places worthy of putting football players up in which is why they usually invest in real estate. Being a landlord incurs a lot of costs and taxes to do properly and then you have to deal with property damage, bad tenants, squatters and so on that incur legal costs. Not just that but the cost of buying the properties of which you'd probably need to purchase about 20 at least hoping that at some point they come up for sale according to your plan. That's a sinking hole of costs with little in the way of yearly revenue and then heavier costs incurred to get planning permission to knock down 20 homes and repurpose the land if you could gain ownership of the land at all.

There are plenty of people who don't want to move, who have lived in their house for years and are happy there. There have been situations where companies want to acquire properties for development and get into legal issues after somebody won't accept any offers which all costs a lot of money. It's not something simple and if you purchase the properties you'll probably end up paying over the odds for each one to get somebody to move out then all the costs for redevelopment, planning permission and everything else.

Really properties would have to have been factored in from the start because you can't just buy up a property then knock it down, it doesn't work that way. 100 or so years ago when grounds like Blundell Park were built we lived in a different world with all standing stadiums and without much in the way of cars or transport so things like parking and space were not issues. Obviously we needed to move ground years ago but we never got that over the line and then after the Conoco Stadium project died out we drunk money down the drain on waster projects that were never getting anywhere with the "Free Men of Grimsby" or whatever making a Youtube video talking like they will make it happen and the club just spent several thousand more on paperwork that never went anywhere. Until we develop the means, needs and the right situation to deliver that we are pretty much stuck as is.

Quoted from Kris2

Rented out to who? That's a whole different business from what a football club does, they certainly aren't places worthy of putting football players up in which is why they usually invest in real estate. Being a landlord incurs a lot of costs and taxes to do properly and then you have to deal with property damage, bad tenants, squatters and so on that incur legal costs. Not just that but the cost of buying the properties of which you'd probably need to purchase about 20 at least hoping that at some point they come up for sale according to your plan. That's a sinking hole of costs with little in the way of yearly revenue and then heavier costs incurred to get planning permission to knock down 20 homes and repurpose the land if you could gain ownership of the land at all.

There are plenty of people who don't want to move, who have lived in their house for years and are happy there. There have been situations where companies want to acquire properties for development and get into legal issues after somebody won't accept any offers which all costs a lot of money. It's not something simple and if you purchase the properties you'll probably end up paying over the odds for each one to get somebody to move out then all the costs for redevelopment, planning permission and everything else.

Really properties would have to have been factored in from the start because you can't just buy up a property then knock it down, it doesn't work that way. 100 or so years ago when grounds like Blundell Park were built we lived in a different world with all standing stadiums and without much in the way of cars or transport so things like parking and space were not issues. Obviously we needed to move ground years ago but we never got that over the line and then after the Conoco Stadium project died out we drunk money down the drain on waster projects that were never getting anywhere with the "Free Men of Grimsby" or whatever making a Youtube video talking like they will make it happen and the club just spent several thousand more on paperwork that never went anywhere. Until we develop the means, needs and the right situation to deliver that we are pretty much stuck as is.

You seem to have missed my point, which was that some of these properties could have been bought many years ago when the purchase price was a fraction of what it is now. Any administration could have been carried out through an estate agent. It would have given Town another option instead of the 'Great Coates' location, or any other come to that.

If they were not needed then they could have been sold at current market values making a hefty profit.

As it is we have no hope, unless a rich benefactor comes forward, of building a new stadium and little land at BP to redevelop on.

This thread got me thinking, I reckon we must hold the record for fans mentioning ‘safety certificates’.

Quoted from aldi_01

This thread got me thinking, I reckon we must hold the record for fans mentioning ‘safety certificates’.

We’ve got a long, long way to go before we reach Birmingham City levels of discussion on the subject.

What’s the obsession with making the ground bigger, it’s not like we are selling out. Less than a week before the opener still plenty of seats available. We are in a good place with attendances up butcher we just need to increase the interest with performances on the pitch. Anything worse than last seasons home performances and we’ll be back to the 4000 die hards.

Quoted from lukeo

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I hope they're filling the sides in whilst they're at it

I actually really like the open look of this, it would be great to have a clear/clean roof go on. Maybe just because the picture is in nice sunshine but it really does look better. Oh and yeah either extending sideward into the corner surely has to be done?

Quoted from DB

You seem to have missed my point, which was that some of these properties could have been bought many years ago when the purchase price was a fraction of what it is now. Any administration could have been carried out through an estate agent. It would have given Town another option instead of the 'Great Coates' location, or any other come to that.

If they were not needed then they could have been sold at current market values making a hefty profit.

As it is we have no hope, unless a rich benefactor comes forward, of building a new stadium and little land at BP to redevelop on.

Yes, maybe these properties were cheaper then but also we would have had proportionally less money to buy them. The fact also remains that as soon as somebody knows you want their property for a future large development then some will hold out for a larger amount than that offered. I seem to recall that some years ago when Liverpool FC wanted to expand Anfield by buying some adjacent properties, one or two homeowners categorically refused to sell which held the whole process up.

I've long come to the conclusion that the best location for us is in Cleethorpes- at BP.

It is big enough for any scenario in the next few years, capacities can be increased over time, we own the site with an iconic sea view, have the history and memories,  are on a train route and parking is no more of a problem than at any ground that cannot be alleviated with park and ride schemes if necessary.

I don't think we would need to buy any housing or anything like that, just make more of the existing footprint including the car park at the front.

We can improve a little or a lot at our own pace. If something truly dramatic happened ala a Bournemouth or Luton then that would be a different ball game, but I would stick with BP for the foreseeable.

Quoted from jaygy

I actually really like the open look of this, it would be great to have a clear/clean roof go on. Maybe just because the picture is in nice sunshine but it really does look better. Oh and yeah either extending sideward into the corner surely has to be done?

Agree totally. It looks brilliant.

Quoted from Humbercod

What’s the obsession with making the ground bigger, it’s not like we are selling out. Less than a week before the opener still plenty of seats available. We are in a good place with attendances up butcher we just need to increase the interest with performances on the pitch. Anything worse than last seasons home performances and we’ll be back to the 4000 die hards.

We have 5500 season ticket holders

With having a relatively poor season at home last time out

Imagine the uptake if we are top 7 playing good football

We could easily do 5 figure gates for the bigger games ,if we were doing well I am in no doubt .

But I do believe the 'hardcore ' support has increased to 5.5k ish just off the back of our former custodians departure and fans belief in the ethical brothers long term vision for our club .