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toontown
April 23, 2023, 1:06pm
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Quoted from moosey_club
If Hurst is being "ruthless" then I think Hunt may be in trouble. He seems to have been his midfield fall guy this year....would seem strange as he is on a longer term contract but as Hurst clearly doesn't trust him to play regularly then maybe...
Would be building something around him personally but hey.

Also regards our defensive records then a big issue is there have been so many variations in players,  formation  then who actually knows what our best line up is ?  Defensive units need stability, need to know each others games, strengths and weaknesses you perform as a unit.
Salford away first half was a great example of new formation,  players being completely confused and as a result wide open, should have been 3 or 4 down by half time.


I suspect the "if certain players don't learn their lesson and keep making the same mistakes then they won't be playing here and if they keep doing it they will find themselves out the game" after the carlisle game was aimed at hunt. Multiple examples of giving the ball away in very dangerous areas, something he was a bit prone to even when on form. He certainly has some quality but I think next season is massive for him.
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Umerah has got 15 in 46 appearances in all competitions (12 league + 3 FA Cup). That’s an excellent record in a relegated team - you’d have to think that he’s capable of scoring 20+ in a team pushing at the right end of the table.

I’d have him here in a heartbeat, assuming sensible financials.

The sensible financials are likely to be a problem in today's market for forwards.
Depends on your definition of sensible though I suppose.
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To be honest, even if we’d recruited well, or better last preseason I don’t think it would’ve mattered, our actual pre season was so short, I’d imagine it was hard to fully embed the principles and then once the season starts focus does shift.

I think everyone at the club needs a rest. Or promotion was a whirlwind and the most mental 2 weeks ever, unique and arguably the most exciting promotion campaign ever (sorry Wrexham, but it’s true) then, a week of celebrating, a week off and back to it.

I do think we’ll see a Rob Jones effect in some players, been ok this year but will be much improved next year. Then, we all know Hurst will add a smattering of rough diamonds and players we’ve never heard of who will improve us. We won’t just Spaff our budget and we know there’ll be a plan which for a change, is actually reassuring compared to the past.

There are big spending teams in the league and at least one who will have zero structure other than to spend. This naturally skews things and then we’ve had a well documented cup win which will see some players changing their arms.

I think we need another keeper, a solid ball playing midfielder, not a kick and run Green type. Obviously we could do with someone a little more clinical up top and I’d imagine at least one more centre half. What I do know is I want players who want to play for GTFC. That buy into what we’re about, that believe in themselves, their team and the club.


A thoughtful post but I tend to disagree with the final bit.

I agree that the club should have a set of values that underpin our ethos, but to expect players brought in to buy into it seems a bit of a stretch.

It is going to hard enough to attract players without looking for additional hurdles for them to jump over.

I think Hurst said last week something about wanting the right characters,  but he could be seriously limiting his options.

Nobody wants to employ a bad 'un but it's the best footballers you want and it's often those with a bit of character that produce on the field. None of the players are going to be here long, are they?

Very few players will "want" to play for Grimsby Town per se, but might consider it if the money is right and they like the clubs ambition and a whole host of other things.

Does anybody know if this Hartlepool striker is a good character? Do we care assuming he is not a completely unreliable chancer?
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I'd be concerned about the fan expectations for next season - "where's the FA Cup money gone blah blah blah". There is one, likely two, big spenders coming up, and max 1 going up the play-offs. Looking at the likely relegated clubs they probably won't have big budgets but the likes of Gillingham and Colchester have had big injections of cash. I expect we'll have a top half budget but whilst the current top 3 show what can be done with a typical League 2 budget, they are all centrally located in the SE and South Mids with a bigger pool of players draw from. If we can continue with incremental progression and be fringe play-offs that would be a good outcome. The key thing is stability whilst the clubs infrastructure improvements kick in to enable us to attract better players to the area. The fans will need to be patient.
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I'm not sure that Northampton have a 'typical' League Two budget this season. They've spent big and I seem to recall the rumours were claiming they trebled the offer we made to Fox which is one of the reasons he moved on!
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I'm not sure that Northampton have a 'typical' League Two budget this season. They've spent big and I seem to recall the rumours were claiming they trebled the offer we made to Fox which is one of the reasons he moved on!


I always wonder how Northampton keep doing it ,they get modest crowds ,but always splash the cash .

Have they got big investors or are they another one that are building up big debts and will eventually go south ?
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Quoted from Maringer
I'm not sure that Northampton have a 'typical' League Two budget this season. They've spent big and I seem to recall the rumours were claiming they trebled the offer we made to Fox which is one of the reasons he moved on!


Can't believe it. Why would they? Say Town offered a decent 2.5k per week, why would they offer 7.5k? Foolish to see the least. Especially when 3.5k would do it.


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I'm not sure that Northampton have a 'typical' League Two budget this season. They've spent big and I seem to recall the rumours were claiming they trebled the offer we made to Fox which is one of the reasons he moved on!


I hadn't noticed them as particularly big spenders and thought Fox's decision was at least partly geographic. Maybe wrong, they're not in the category of Stockport, Bradford and Salford though are they?

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Quoted from toontown


I suspect the "if certain players don't learn their lesson and keep making the same mistakes then they won't be playing here and if they keep doing it they will find themselves out the game" after the carlisle game was aimed at hunt. Multiple examples of giving the ball away in very dangerous areas, something he was a bit prone to even when on form. He certainly has some quality but I think next season is massive for him.


Agree with your assessment. I understand Hurst wanting to reduce the goals we concede but reducing our ability to create is also detrimental. I think Hunt would benefit from playing alongside team mates who can also pass.
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Quoted from Maringer
I'm not sure that Northampton have a 'typical' League Two budget this season. They've spent big and I seem to recall the rumours were claiming they trebled the offer we made to Fox which is one of the reasons he moved on!


The man in the ticket office at Northampton said no way was Fox on the money being touted on the Fishy.  That would seem plausible given their gates and lack of obvious financial backing elsewhere.
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