Jason and Debbie on DN35

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I understand the logic but have to say that, anecdotally, it isn’t going down well. Not totally convinced that a football club can be run in the same way as a normal corporate organisation.

see the above post to yours Codger, which makes the counter argument. Should add my wife runs 2 special needs schools, so in a way there are parallels , it's  a social/community 'business'' ; but the point about standards,ethics and professionalism remains true.

and i would add that whilst it may not be going down well with certain people, there will be others who come into replace them. And i suspect those people who leave will be replaced by forward thinking, dynamic, enthusiastic and efficient professionals, coz i don't think DC would settle for anything else

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I understand the logic but have to say that, anecdotally, it isn’t going down well. Not totally convinced that a football club can be run in the same way as a normal corporate organisation.

I don't disagree but JS at least has developed some businesses who aren't "normal cooperate organisations" in terms of culture at any rate. I think change isn't always popular some people get it and respond some don't.

Also credit to the owners as Jason calls it they have pretty much dealt with stuff in the "organisation" rather than the "football" club. The football side of things has been left to PH and the "football club" stuff has been addressed with some great consultation with stake holders like the Trust etc...

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I understand the logic but have to say that, anecdotally, it isn’t going down well. Not totally convinced that a football club can be run in the same way as a normal corporate organisation.

Why?

It’s clear the old regime was pointless, incompetent and if they weren’t sycophants that said ‘yes John, no John, three bags full John’ they were numb, coasting, taking their money and going home. That’s no good for an organisation either.

Football club or corporate organisation, the operations of the club were embarrassing and it was on life support. For me, I’d have removed the lot, couldn’t give two shits of they’ve been there ages and work hard, not a single element of the club was working smartly or effectively.

They chose, and understandably so, to give folk a chance. Some have taken it, others not so much, those people have been moved on. Some more forcibly than others I’d imagine. That business. Football is the same, you’re excrement, you’re moved on. Teams that are shite and a shambles like us go through lots of players, businesses poorly run and chaotic go through lots of staff. Culturally they’re a mess and environmentally they’re not places that are relational or places folk won’t to work.

The club was rotten, it still is in parts. There’ll be casualties along the way, as a fan I can’t say I’m bothered about that. Decisions are being made to make the club future proof, sustainable and successful.

Just listened and really enjoyed it. Good stuff by the dn35 guys and always enjoy hearing from our owners. They talk alot of sense and disagree completely with the old codgers comment. All the clubs that have been run in the way jason and andrew are looking to run ours, have overtaken the old school run clubs. Dont get what theyre saying conflated with the commercially ran disaster clubs like man united. Theyre leaving the football side to the football people, but setting those football people up for long term sustained success and growing the club into being the embraced heart of the town, which it hasnt quite been for a long time.

My experience is that people who tell you that where they work is different and that the normal rules don't really apply are generally making excuses. You can't be the first to complain about anything being wrong and then criticise the owners for wanting to improve standards.

I mean, this is what we asked for, isn't it? We wanted the club to be dragged into the 21st century, kicking and screaming if needs be. This is the ruthless attitude we need if we're going to get back to where we want to be. As long as people are given a chance to prove themselves and the owners act professionally, I'll be fully supportive of any action they deem necessary.

Quoted from aldi_01

Why?

It’s clear the old regime was pointless, incompetent and if they weren’t sycophants that said ‘yes John, no John, three bags full John’ they were numb, coasting, taking their money and going home. That’s no good for an organisation either.

Football club or corporate organisation, the operations of the club were embarrassing and it was on life support. For me, I’d have removed the lot, couldn’t give two shits of they’ve been there ages and work hard, not a single element of the club was working smartly or effectively.

They chose, and understandably so, to give folk a chance. Some have taken it, others not so much, those people have been moved on. Some more forcibly than others I’d imagine. That business. Football is the same, you’re excrement, you’re moved on. Teams that are shite and a shambles like us go through lots of players, businesses poorly run and chaotic go through lots of staff. Culturally they’re a mess and environmentally they’re not places that are relational or places folk won’t to work.

The club was rotten, it still is in parts. There’ll be casualties along the way, as a fan I can’t say I’m bothered about that. Decisions are being made to make the club future proof, sustainable and successful.

If I wasted my discretional energy on that ticks and crosses bollox I'd give this post a gold star.

Will have to re listen because I may have misunderstood at the time. However I took Jason’s comments about sell outs to be in relation to a new ground but they recognise there’s an issue with grouping tickets etc hence they’re looking for additional seating in the corners?

As I said, I might be wrong.

They’re saying we aren’t selling out home games yet there’s no decent seats together for todays game. I can’t get 2 seats together anywhere in the ground that aren’t restricted views. Any STs not going able to release their seats? Despite what they say, we do have a capacity issue that are keeping people away.

Just 22 seats left with 90 minutes to go to kick off . Sell out by any reasonable definition of the term