Covid passports for football

Quoted from RobDef1

And this is my personal case, but not very far fetched. The vaccine is a genuine risk (fatal risk, in the case of 1645 people and their families) to many people for many reasons, reasons that are none of our business. Forcing them upon anybody is wrong.

Don't be so ridiculous. The harms reported in the vast majority of the Yellow Card reports are absolutely nothing to do with the vaccination. To my knowledge, the risk of heart problems with the mRNA vaccines haven't led to any reported deaths at all, around the world. The Adenovirus vaccines (AZ and the J&J which isn't used in the UK), can cause a clotting issue on very rare occasions, but a lot less than 100 people have died in the UK from millions of doses given:

https://www.gov.uk/government/.....9-vaccine-foi-21-496

Incidentally, it seems you are certain that Omicron is milder than Delta or earlier variants. It's an interesting view, but there is no data to show this is true one way or the other yet. The problem is that, even if it is milder than the earlier variants it is so, so infectious that it is likely that it will find its way into enough vulnerable people to be very dangerous, especially if they all become infected in a very short period. Over 80,000 people died in the big Alpha wave which lasted 4 or 5 months and it seems that one or two modellers think there are likely to be perhaps third to a half of that number for Omicron, albeit compressed into a shorter period. Let's hope they are right, though 30,000+ deaths aren't anything to be happy about.

As for footy, with the case rates we're going to be seeing over the next month or two, I simply can't see how the football season can continue without a break. Loads of the players, officials and pretty much anybody involved in the running of a game will be infected or isolating over the next month or two so I suspect we'll see play suspended, perhaps after Boxing Day, until a future date. Probably during February or March. A bit more leeway this season as the World Cup isn't going to be played until November/December so there wouldn't be the rush to get all the fixtures played if it was a summer competition. It wouldn't be difficult to rejig the season a bit more so that it didn't start until September and then continued to June 2023.

Incidentally, first time I've heard of a contraindication to use of an mRNA vaccine that is heart-related, especially as the risks of heart complications are much higher from infection. I'm assuming that the case is the same with Omicron as the earlier variants.

The Novavax vaccine should be authorised before too long. Shouldn't be even the same small risk of a heart problem with that particular type of vaccine, I'd have thought.

Quoted from Maringer

Incidentally, first time I've heard of a contraindication to use of an mRNA vaccine that is heart-related, especially as the risks of heart complications are much higher from infection. I'm assuming that the case is the same with Omicron as the earlier variants.

The Novavax vaccine should be authorised before too long. Shouldn't be even the same small risk of a heart problem with that particular type of vaccine, I'd have thought.

You Sir, are an absolute idiot, I feel embarrassed to support the same club as you. Are you a member of Sage?

My mates an arsenal fan he didn't get asked for anything last night at the emirates , he reckons they randomly checked 1-1000 , not possible to check everybody , i still think it's a crap idea from a poor pm

I always thought vaccines were supposed to be an answer to medical problems, not as a way to be be allowed to go to the pub or a football match ?

Quoted from fishcake63

My mates an arsenal fan he didn't get asked for anything last night at the emirates , he reckons they randomly checked 1-1000 , not possible to check everybody , i still think it's a crap idea from a poor pm

This was the case at Leeds festival, well certainly was for me. Understandably, their focus was on illicit substances and dangerous prohibited items.

Yesterday when the Precinct was fairly quiet I waited while the wife went into Next and during a 10 minute period I counted 13 people who were not wearing a mask. The majority of these were 20 something year old males who i am pretty sure weren't exempt. Grow up you selfish bstards and think of other people before you kill someone. I don't suppose you care at the moment but when it happens to you I hope you'll be squealing like a baby.

Quoted from golfer

Yesterday when the Precinct was fairly quiet I waited while the wife went into Next and during a 10 minute period I counted 13 people who were not wearing a mask. The majority of these were 20 something year old males who i am pretty sure weren't exempt. Grow up you selfish bstards and think of other people before you kill someone. I don't suppose you care at the moment but when it happens to you I hope you'll be squealing like a baby.

What’s your view on folk who wear those cloth, ‘fashion’ type masks which barely get washed and have been shown to see free little protection? Genuine question….

For me, if you’re going to wear one then surely a medical 🏥 me or one use is better than some cloth affair…

Anything is better than nothing

Quoted from golfer

Yesterday when the Precinct was fairly quiet I waited while the wife went into Next and during a 10 minute period I counted 13 people who were not wearing a mask. The majority of these were 20 something year old males who i am pretty sure weren't exempt. Grow up you selfish bstards and think of other people before you kill someone. I don't suppose you care at the moment but when it happens to you I hope you'll be squealing like a baby.

Kill someone 😂