Covid passports for football

Quoted from rancido

I never said I had to have the vaccine, merely that my experience of Covid post vaccine was such that I dread to think how I would have fared without the vaccine. As for you being bipolar and the choices you make because of that, my eldest daughter is also bipolar so I know about the problems associated with that condition. I do not endorse compulsory vaccinations but knowing what I do about past diseases that have been virtually eradicated because of the vaccination programmes then I believe there are more benefits than probkems.

Ok so with an understanding of Bipolar, you'll hopefully understand that my life depends on the medication, simple as that. So with that in mind, do you understand why I would rather steer clear of a vaccination that could cause me to have to drop that medication? Especially when that vaccine is for a virus that I've already had without complications and is unlikely to cause me any complications in the future?

I hope that makes it a bit clearer, it is certainly a clear and agreeable choice where my mental health team (medical professionals) are concerned.

Now why should I live a substandard life because I chose not to have said vaccine?

Quoted from RobDef1

Ok so with an understanding of Bipolar, you'll hopefully understand that my life depends on the medication, simple as that. So with that in mind, do you understand why I would rather steer clear of a vaccination that could cause me to have to drop that medication? Especially when that vaccine is for a virus that I've already had without complications and is unlikely to cause me any complications in the future?

I hope that makes it a bit clearer, it is certainly a clear and agreeable choice where my mental health team (medical professionals) are concerned.

Now why should I live a substandard life because I chose not to have said vaccine?

And this is my personal case, but not very far fetched. The vaccine is a genuine risk (fatal risk, in the case of 1645 people and their families) to many people for many reasons, reasons that are none of our business. Forcing them upon anybody is wrong.

Quoted from RobDef1

Now why should I live a substandard life because I chose not to have said vaccine?

You don’t have to if you produce a negative LFT. Or are you just wanting to be difficult?

Quoted from RobDef1

Ok so with an understanding of Bipolar, you'll hopefully understand that my life depends on the medication, simple as that. So with that in mind, do you understand why I would rather steer clear of a vaccination that could cause me to have to drop that medication? Especially when that vaccine is for a virus that I've already had without complications and is unlikely to cause me any complications in the future?

I hope that makes it a bit clearer, it is certainly a clear and agreeable choice where my mental health team (medical professionals) are concerned.

Now why should I live a substandard life because I chose not to have said vaccine?

I know the choices and risks bipolar causes because of my daughter and she decided the vaccine was still her best option.

Quoted from LH

You don’t have to if you produce a negative LFT. Or are you just wanting to be difficult?

That's fair enough, sounds easy right? Because LFT's are always available and this government aren't famous for moving the goalposts are they?

Vaccine passports don't even work, look at France, they haven't worked, now they're moving the goalposts on them. Who is being difficult?

The reality of "covid passports"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne.....ne-status-codes.html

As previous events when they were introduced, absolutely a waste of time.

https://www.gov.uk/government/.....s-and-get-vaccinated

Quoted from RobDef1

That's fair enough, sounds easy right? Because LFT's are always available and this government aren't famous for moving the goalposts are they?

Vaccine passports don't even work, look at France, they haven't worked, now they're moving the goalposts on them. Who is being difficult?

Maybe the Covid passports are the Governments subtle way of getting more people to have the vaccine rather than making it compulsory.

Quoted from Squinter

Maybe the Covid passports are the Governments subtle way of getting more people to have the vaccine rather than making it compulsory.

Penny drops..................

Scientists have eradicated many lethal illnesses with vaccines. I would imagine many people on here have had MMR as kids and a very small percentage of those vaccines caused side effects in a very small group of infants, which led to all sorts of scare stories and lower uptake of those vaccines. Of course, the consequences of the lower uptake caused way more harm than the very few cases that happened because of the vaccine.

The list of other lethal illnesses that have been eradicated due to science and vaccines is a very long one and the list is growing all the time.

Flu jabs are now commonplace, as is the HPV jab. Aids was a death sentence in the 80's and 90's but again, scientists came up with an answer to give people hope and many more years of life. Smallpox has been totally wiped out.

My point is that vaccines are a part of life, yet for some reason, lots of people seem to be getting a bee in their bonnet about this one. Yes, it was rushed through and fast tracked but the scientific understanding of diseases like covid helped in that regard, and for me science has improved lives and standards for most of the Western world far more than it has had a negative effect.

Did I need to take the vaccine? Will it have long term detrimental effects I'm yet to discover? I don't know the answers to these questions but I tend to believe learned scientists who tell me that it is in my best interests and the interests of the nation as a whole.

There seems to be loads of conspiracy theories involving Government plots, big pharma, vested interests, 4G, nano chip technology and frigging aliens.  

Get the jab, don't get the jab. Be at peace with your decision and see what transpires in the fullness of time. My money is on the science and I'm well aware that you can find any data which backs up your own particular side of the argument. I know which one I believe.

I shall be far from the madding crowds over Christmas and the New Year.

Quoted from RobDef1

Ok so with an understanding of Bipolar, you'll hopefully understand that my life depends on the medication, simple as that. So with that in mind, do you understand why I would rather steer clear of a vaccination that could cause me to have to drop that medication? Especially when that vaccine is for a virus that I've already had without complications and is unlikely to cause me any complications in the future?

I hope that makes it a bit clearer, it is certainly a clear and agreeable choice where my mental health team (medical professionals) are concerned.

Now why should I live a substandard life because I chose not to have said vaccine?

Completely get that mate. Keep safe and well.