Covid passports for football

Quoted from Squinter

75% of people in ICU with covid are unvacinated.  A friend of mines son can not have a vital kidney transplant because there are not enough ICU beds for him or his donar.  Why should innocent vacinated people suffer because of those who refuse to have the jab.

WRONG.....the true figure of unvaccinated in ICU is circa 36%...and the majority in hospital due to Covid are actually vaccinated....

Quoted from wuffing

LEST WE FORGET.....
THE COUNTLESS THOUSANDS WHO SACRRIFICED THEIR LIVES IN TWO WORLD WARS FOR OUR.... 'FREEDOMS....'
FOR THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE...
FOR THE RIGHT TO SAY YES...
FOR THE RIGHT TO SAY NO...
THE FREEDOM TO MAKE YOUR OWN INFORMED CHOICE.

I WEAR A POPPY WITH SADNESS AND REMEMBERENCE,
WITH MASSIVE RESPECT TO THOSE BRAVE PERSONS WHO SACRIFICED SO SO MUCH......
WHAT WOULD THEY SAY NOW IN THE FACE OF COMING APARTHEID AND THE COMING FASCIST STATE WHERE CHOICE IS TAKEN AWAY.. ?
DID THEY NOT LAY DOWN THEIR LIVES AGAINST THESE VERY REGIMES?
I THINK I KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD SAY...
I DO REMEMBER THEM
DO YOU?

Your ancestors fought, got sent away from their parents to the countryside for protection and had to go to bomb shelters several nights not knowing if they have a home to go back to all for what was the greater good to protect themselves and others....We apparently can't even manage wearing a mask or getting a couple of jabs out of our own sense of petty selfishness over mild inconvinience. If we had bombing raids today like they had back then nobody would turn their lights off or go to the bomb shelter because the rules don't apply to them and how dare the government take away our kids or ask us to fight overseas. Unfortunately, following the second world war was the baby boomers and generation x, two generations who had it so easy thanks to the sacrifices of their elders that they gained a sense of selfishness and entitlement because of years of having everything being done to excess. They are also basically the cause or everything crap happening to us now lol.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

WRONG.....the true figure of unvaccinated in ICU is circa 36%...and the majority in hospital due to Covid are actually vaccinated....

The latest data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) covers admissions in the months of May, June and July 2021. Page 45 of its report from 3 December shows that about 73% of intensive care unit (ICU) admissions with Covid involved unvaccinated people (2.6% of whom had received one dose of a vaccine less than two weeks before testing positive). About 20% were fully vaccinated.

Quoted from Stadium

The latest data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) covers admissions in the months of May, June and July 2021. Page 45 of its report from 3 December shows that about 73% of intensive care unit (ICU) admissions with Covid involved unvaccinated people (2.6% of whom had received one dose of a vaccine less than two weeks before testing positive). About 20% were fully vaccinated.

How dare you produce printed facts as opposed to some individuals suppositions.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

WRONG.....the true figure of unvaccinated in ICU is circa 36%...and the majority in hospital due to Covid are actually vaccinated....

It's all about the denominator, baby. What proportion of the population in the older age groups who are more likely to require treatment in ICU are vaccinated? Over 90% in the over-80s and not far off that in the over-70s.

That means that an unvaccinated person of a particular age group is many times more likely to be in ICU than their vaccinated peers.

It's always odd when people confidently quote statistics which actually completely refute their own claims.

Quoted from Squinter

75% of people in ICU with covid are unvacinated.  A friend of mines son can not have a vital kidney transplant because there are not enough ICU beds for him or his donar.  Why should innocent vacinated people suffer because of those who refuse to have the jab.

So are you quite happy to force vaccinations onto persons?

Quoted from Stadium

The latest data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) covers admissions in the months of May, June and July 2021. Page 45 of its report from 3 December shows that about 73% of intensive care unit (ICU) admissions with Covid involved unvaccinated people (2.6% of whom had received one dose of a vaccine less than two weeks before testing positive). About 20% were fully vaccinated.

Can I just say that I've just received a tweet( after making sure I'd received the correct information) from the former ONS data analyst James Jenkins who's to quote"the figures are taken from old data before the the population was mostly vaccinated"...so don't shoot the messenger, I'm taking my information from him not an independent body like you have...

Will you lot just intercourse off with these posts and grow up .......

Quoted from It Bites

Will you lot just intercourse off with these posts and grow up .......

Are you the moderator on the forum?
If so please direct everybody to the rules around what can and cannot be discussed.
Thanks.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Can I just say that I've just received a tweet( after making sure I'd received the correct information) from the former ONS data analyst James Jenkins who's to quote"the figures are taken from old data before the the population was mostly vaccinated"...so don't shoot the messenger, I'm taking my information from him not an independent body like you have...

No problem.

Tbh, the data is a minefield.
It takes time to sieve through it & work out the figures.
Or you can get angry like some and tell people to " grow up"