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HertsGTFC
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Is there a ceiling on how many loans you can take?


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Andy Carroll is a free agent at the moment, still only 32 could do a job at this level


We should be able to get him for £50 a week and 100 Tesco points
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We should be able to get him for £50 a week and 100 Tesco points


I'd want him to pay us a lot more than that



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We should be able to get him for £50 a week and 100 Tesco points


............. and he could bring his own striped shirt with him .
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Is there a ceiling on how many loans you can take?


Thought it was 6, so we are alright there. We must be because the players PH was trying to bring in last week would have been loans I imagine.

As for signing a striker for a fee, I would like to think that if PH identified one, then the board would put up the money, especially as we are making way more than we could have imagined at the start of the season with all the extra fans through the turnstiles.

Stockport signed Sarcevic from Bolton, so It's doable.

The top teams in this league are now spending the sorts of money unheard of until recently and there was much made about Chesterfield paying what they did for Tshimanga, but he is quickly repaying that investment with 9 goals already.

Maybe we could prise away someone like Waters or Campbell from Woking.

Ultimately though, it's solely down to PH to identify the correct fit. As good as we have been this season, we are still in the building process yet and there is room for improvement in more than just forward areas I think.

We need to use the next 2 or 3 weeks to bring someone in before we hit that run of tough games against most of the top sides.
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Is there a ceiling on how many loans you can take?


Not sure, but you can only have 5 in the matchday 16.


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It's easy to spend someone else's money though isn't it?

For what it's worth (which is very little, I'm just a voice on a message board) I don't think the answer is throwing money at a striker and I don't think that's the model we're going to go for and whilst the budget is no doubt healthy we can't compete with the likes of Wrexham or Stockport and pay the wages they're paying to prise people from elsewhere. I'm not sure I'd want us to be so reckless with the budget that we would try either, it seems that we're aiming for a sustainable and safe operating structure.

Beyond that I'm not sure how easy it is to 'go get a striker'. It's the easiest thing in the world to talk about on social media or a forum. It's easy to do on FM or FIFA but in real life with real people I'm not sure its as simple as that. What is clear is that Paul Hurst is trying, he's been knocked back by a couple of players and he's discounted others himself. he's alluded that this may be down to their personalities/attitudes. What PH does build in a team is a work ethic and a bond. I don't think he'd take someone who isn't the right fit. It must be difficult to persuade someone to move at this time of year, we're all thinking about Christmas aren't we? Would you want to move away from your family at this time of year?  Footballers are just people, with thoughts and emotions and feelings, I think sometimes we forget that.

I agree that we need strengthening or help in the striking options, especially now McAtee is injured and Taylor is having to be managed in a return but I trust Paul Hurst and I trust the board to get the right person in, and if that person isn't out there then I'd rather we didn't spend the money for the sake of it and we make do with what we've got.


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It's easy to spend someone else's money though isn't it?

For what it's worth (which is very little, I'm just a voice on a message board) I don't think the answer is throwing money at a striker and I don't think that's the model we're going to go for and whilst the budget is no doubt healthy we can't compete with the likes of Wrexham or Stockport and pay the wages they're paying to prise people from elsewhere. I'm not sure I'd want us to be so reckless with the budget that we would try either, it seems that we're aiming for a sustainable and safe operating structure.

Beyond that I'm not sure how easy it is to 'go get a striker'. It's the easiest thing in the world to talk about on social media or a forum. It's easy to do on FM or FIFA but in real life with real people I'm not sure its as simple as that. What is clear is that Paul Hurst is trying, he's been knocked back by a couple of players and he's discounted others himself. he's alluded that this may be down to their personalities/attitudes. What PH does build in a team is a work ethic and a bond. I don't think he'd take someone who isn't the right fit. It must be difficult to persuade someone to move at this time of year, we're all thinking about Christmas aren't we? Would you want to move away from your family at this time of year?  Footballers are just people, with thoughts and emotions and feelings, I think sometimes we forget that.

I agree that we need strengthening or help in the striking options, especially now McAtee is injured and Taylor is having to be managed in a return but I trust Paul Hurst and I trust the board to get the right person in, and if that person isn't out there then I'd rather we didn't spend the money for the sake of it and we make do with what we've got.


Is it other peoples money though? The fans by and large fund the club through ticket sales and sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. We have responded to what we have seen on the pitch and turned up in numbers not heard of for a long time. The club has made far more money than they could have imagined and would probably be willing to fund a modest transfer, should one be identified.

I'm not talking about spending a quarter of a million on a striker like Chesterfield did. We got Hearn and Bogle for considerably less than that, because we took them from clubs that were glad of the money and happy for their star striker to get a move that enhanced their career.

I think sometimes Hurst can be a bit stubborn in that regard, but if you stand still, you go backwards.
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Thought it was 6, so we are alright there. We must be because the players PH was trying to bring in last week would have been loans I imagine.

As for signing a striker for a fee, I would like to think that if PH identified one, then the board would put up the money, especially as we are making way more than we could have imagined at the start of the season with all the extra fans through the turnstiles.

Stockport signed Sarcevic from Bolton, so It's doable.

The top teams in this league are now spending the sorts of money unheard of until recently and there was much made about Chesterfield paying what they did for Tshimanga, but he is quickly repaying that investment with 9 goals already.

Maybe we could prise away someone like Waters or Campbell from Woking.

Ultimately though, it's solely down to PH to identify the correct fit. As good as we have been this season, we are still in the building process yet and there is room for improvement in more than just forward areas I think.

We need to use the next 2 or 3 weeks to bring someone in before we hit that run of tough games against most of the top sides.


Jason did go on record recently to say if we need an addition the board will support it. I doubt we’d get Waters as Halifax have realistic ambitions. Campbell looks decent as did the big lad Woking had up front with him when we played them.

I think he’ll bring someone in as long as they fit the bill in terms of ability and attitude and more importantly they’re match fit or as close as they could be.



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Is it other peoples money though? The fans by and large fund the club through ticket sales and sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. We have responded to what we have seen on the pitch and turned up in numbers not heard of for a long time. The club has made far more money than they could have imagined and would probably be willing to fund a modest transfer, should one be identified.

I'm not talking about spending a quarter of a million on a striker like Chesterfield did. We got Hearn and Bogle for considerably less than that, because we took them from clubs that were glad of the money and happy for their star striker to get a move that enhanced their career.

I think sometimes Hurst can be a bit stubborn in that regard, but if you stand still, you go backwards.


I agree with a lot of what you say here but saying Hurst is stubborn is a bit off the mark in my view. I’d describe it as picky but stubborn suggests he’d cut his nose off to sought his face which he wouldn’t do, why would he “self harm” our chances of success.


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