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He came in at the end of December to a dreadful squad where the only genuine talent was immediately recalled from loan. Recruiting in January is generally considered to be difficult but then the entire country went into national lockdown on January 7th which was a pretty unique challenge to throw into the mix. We also had dreadful weather which meant we had weeks where our dreadful training facilities were out of action.
Genuine question for those who claim PH has made it worse - do you think he would have allowed the groundsman to be furlouged, Vernam to leave, one friendly to be played, the season to start with that squad?
He allowed amond, Danny Andrew, shaun Pearson and bogle to leave so how would he have stopped vernam
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He allowed amond, Danny Andrew, shaun Pearson and bogle to leave so how would he have stopped vernam
Didn’t Amond say PH wanted him to stay but Fenty wouldn’t pay the extra £50pw or whatever it was?
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He allowed amond, Danny Andrew, shaun Pearson and bogle to leave so how would he have stopped vernam
Amond was shafted by JF, Pearson had become a squad player, Bogle went for decent money....can't remember what happened with Danny Andrew.
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Didn’t Amond say PH wanted him to stay but Fenty wouldn’t pay the extra £50pw or whatever it was?
Im sure he did. But my point was he couldn't stop them leaving so wouldn't have been able to stop vernam leaving. Perhaps allowed is the wrong word. Couldn't might be better
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can't remember what happened with Danny Andrew.
I seem to remember we took a chance with Danny Andrew after him coming back from a long term knee ligament injury, and well we all know he had a good season with us. Doncaster, swooped in having just being promoted from our league at the end of season with Town only giving him a one-year contract, which probally made sense at the time, with the injury he had come back from. I see he's spent the last two seasons back at Fleetwood.
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I seem to remember we took a chance with Danny Andrew after him coming back from a long term knee ligament injury, and well we all know he had a good season with us. Doncaster swooped at the end of season with Town only giving him a one-year contract, which probally made sense at the time, with the injury he had come back from. I see he's spent the last two seasons back at Fleetwood.
Hurst wasnt even at the club when andrew moved on....... 😂😂😂
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He allowed amond, Danny Andrew, shaun Pearson and bogle to leave so how would he have stopped vernam
Amond, Fenty. Andrew- no he didnt he wasnt at the club. Pearson who has been in the NL ever since and Bogle we got a million for again with PH not at the club But anything to beat PH with eh
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Hurst wasnt even at the club when andrew moved on....... 😂😂😂
Indeed. I doubt it would have made any difference if he was or wasn't, I'm sure he would have still gone to Donny, out of contract, higher league, better wages.
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Ok, we need to put this whole “Hurst has turned us into a relegation team” nonsense to bed. Transfermarkt has a neat form table page (great for nerds like me). It lets you put in a range of match days and produces the table from that span of games. Hurst was hired on December 30th – after Matchday 21. If Holloway’s tenure was a 21-game season, after all teams had played 21 matches, we would have been 23rd, with a -17 GD (try it yourself - [url]https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/formtabelle/wettbewerb/GB4?saison_id=2020&min=1&max=21[/url]).
It’s very harsh to judge Hurst on what he could do during January’s five matches, given he was dealing with IH’s players. If we take Hurst’s rein proper from Feb onwards, in the form table between then and now we’d be in 22nd place with -5 GD (for those who want to include the five Jan games then across Hurst’s full tenure we’ve been the 23rd-best across that, though with a -11 GD).
The point is that the stats back up the point that Hurst has improved things, albeit marginally. He has certainly not been worse than IH. He has turned a spectacularly poor defence into an average one, though we obviously still can’t score goals(!).
A few times – today included – Hurst has spoken about building a squad that he’s happy to put his name to. He is clearly not enamoured by this squad but he has done the best he could in the circumstances. Rebuilding an entire team in four weeks in Jan whilst simultaneously trying to assess the squad and stop leaking goals is not easy. As has been mentioned, a little luck and we could easily be out of the relegation zone by now (Hurst cannot seriously legislate for Lenny missing the number of absolute sitters he has, or Payne deciding to do his best Zidane impression on a fellow teammate).
He’s got my backing for next year under new, progressive owners.
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He allowed amond, Danny Andrew, shaun Pearson and bogle to leave so how would he have stopped vernam
Hurst has left when Andrew, Pearson and Bogle moved on. BTW he signed all 4.
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