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For me Hurst has done nothing but shores up the defence Payne was his guy who was rubbish. I would like a fresh start next season across the board.
Maybe Yoda isn’t a bot. The plot thickens 🤔
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Did you watch his last appearance away at Mansfield? After suddenly announcing he was a winger and not a striker, he was given his chance and lost possession every single time the ball went to him.
I don’t rate Payne, but when your alternatives are Green or Ira, then surely it was better to select Payne - especially given he set up a goal for us in the last match.
Didn't say he should have started, only surprised that Ira fails to make the squad today and Green yet again picks up some extra cash. Hurst likes one or more heavies up top but took both Morais and Williams off thus limiting creativity. Jackson may be raw but Green and Payne won't seem to play with commitment. Credit for the sharp turn in the box last match but what else did he do?
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Is Paul Hurst the best we can get? If the answer is yes then keep him. If he isn't then don't. Easy.
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The fact is that under Holloway the team were completely lost and he was picking a different side every week. Yes we weren’t in the relegation zone but only because we picked up some lucky wins early on. We were getting regularly thrashed. Even a small amount more luck under Hurst and we’d have 4-6 more points and be looking safe.
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Didn't say he should have started, only surprised that Ira fails to make the squad today and Green yet again picks up some extra cash. Hurst likes one or more heavies up top but took both Morais and Williams off thus limiting creativity. Jackson may be raw but Green and Payne won't seem to play with commitment. Credit for the sharp turn in the box last match but what else did he do?
In terms of influencing games and making a difference very little and very similar to Jackson in reality. Whilst I completely get your reference to attitude Jackson isn’t the answer. I suspect Hurst’s hands where tied a bit today as Green is clearly not a starter (or finisher!!) and looking at him when he came on I don’t think LJL was 100% fit, but I’ll guess we’ll never know.
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What makes Hurst’s arrival in late December any more difficult a task than any manager arriving to a club in a relegation battle? We weren’t even in the relegation zone when he arrived, let alone adrift at the bottom. Managers come into these situations every year. Some turn things around, some stay out of relegation places, some fall into them. Those in the latter group tend not to be popular, they tend not survive attaining fewer points than their predecessor and they tend not to be championed as the right man for the job when they win two matches in almost half a flipping season. Everyone who takes on a managerial role after an unsuccessful start to a season faces a the same/similar/worse situations with regards player acquisition (some arriving after January window don’t even get that chance...and still make a success of it), player morale, player quality. Clubs change their managers precisely *because* relegation is not pre-ordained and because vast improvements are possible within half a season. To argue that an individual taking over a club in our position around the turn of the year can essentially take us to bottom, win twice and be 100% the right man to remain in charge is superb. We’ve won twice, ffs, and because we don’t get hammered each and every week we’re supposed to merely accept that relegation was a given when he arrived into such an abject position as *not* even being in the relegation places is simply bizarre. As I said originally, earlier, I found it amazing that so many accepted our plight when we toiled our way under Hurst Mark I...to think he would come back (after two swift sackings elsewhere, not inconsequentially), oversee our fairly conclusive fall to adrift-at-the-bottom and sound on interview as though he has given up on this year but can’t wait to build in the non-league and people would STILL be lauding his abilities. Bravo, you guys
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Where can I find this interview? All I’m getting from that link is rugby commentary.
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What makes Hurst’s arrival in late December any more difficult a task than any manager arriving to a club in a relegation battle?
1. We are a complete basket case of a club 2. Geographically unattractive 3. At least one hour’s drive from the closest major city that isn’t on the River Hull 4. Players not wanting to move mid-pandemic making 2 and 3 particularly pertinent at the time and with short contracts offered 5. Rubbish training facilities 6. The (negative) reputation of the majority shareholder within the football industry 7. Average (at best) wages when the other points are factored in 8. Off pitch instability 9. Relegation threatened 10. Covid contracts 11. NE Lincs is not very cosmopolitan 12. Cold easterly winds
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Hadn’t considered the wind before now. Changed my mind.
Look at the table when he arrived, look at all the players he signed, look at the table now. Simple as that.
The blind faith in him is really weird.
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1. We are a complete basket case of a club
2. Geographically unattractive
3. At least one hour’s drive from the closest major city that isn’t on the River Hull
4. Players not wanting to move mid-pandemic making 2 and 3 particularly pertinent at the time and with short contracts offered
5. Rubbish training facilities
6. The (negative) reputation of the majority shareholder within the football industry
7. Average (at best) wages when the other points are factored in
8. Off pitch instability
9. Relegation threatened
10. Covid contracts
11. NE Lincs is not very cosmopolitan
12. Cold easterly winds
Bloody hell. Do you work in PR?
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