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just some stats that may debunk 1 or 2 arguments
Hurst last 6 = won 1, drawn 4, lost 1 = 7 points Holloway last 6 = won 1, drawn 1, lost 4 = 4 points
Hurst last 10 = won 1, drawn 7 lost 2 = 10 points Holloway last 10 (including FA Cup at Dagenham) won 2, drawn 1, lost 7 = 7 points
presuming 1878 make good their promises then Hurst will be able to operate without 1 hand tied behind his back. I'm sure he will have seen enough things at Ipshit as to their set up, facilities and back up staff which will make massive improvements
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We are where we are due to the clubs response to Covid. We didnt re-sign any of our out of contract players to save money. Other clubs splashed the cash early allowing them to pay wages higher than the wage cap that was coming in without any penalisation and we ended up with 7 loanees to start our season. None of this is Paul Hursts doing. He did however find some of what we were lacking which during the Jan window is never going to be easy. How many Hearns, Bogles, Amonds are going to be available in January without a big fee? No other manager had to come in to such an awful squad, we didnt just need a couple of players to help turn it around. Whichever league we start next season in we will be so much better prepared than this season without a doubt. Some people choose not to give him a chance but these are probably the people he cupped his ear to after promotion. I wasnt offended as i know fully it wasnt aimed at me. Sadly, those it was aimed at tend to be the loudest. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but those who he cupped his ear at were proved 100% WRONG and refuse to admit it!
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just some stats that may debunk 1 or 2 arguments
Hurst last 6 = won 1, drawn 4, lost 1 = 7 points Holloway last 6 = won 1, drawn 1, lost 4 = 4 points
Hurst last 10 = won 1, drawn 7 lost 2 = 10 points Holloway last 10 (including FA Cup at Dagenham) won 2, drawn 1, lost 7 = 7 points
presuming 1878 make good their promises then Hurst will be able to operate without 1 hand tied behind his back. I'm sure he will have seen enough things at Ipshit as to their set up, facilities and back up staff which will make massive improvements
The other difference is that one talks openly with honesty, integrity and insight the other one talked complete bollox and clearly was at GTFC for very different reasons.
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The other difference is that one talks openly with honesty, integrity and insight the other one talked complete bollox and clearly was at GTFC for very different reasons.
Regarding the final paragraph. Given the way this club has been dragged through the mud recently, this actually counts a lot for me.
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The fact is that under Holloway the team were completely lost and he was picking a different side every week. Yes we weren’t in the relegation zone but only because we picked up some lucky wins early on. We were getting regularly thrashed. Even a small amount more luck under Hurst and we’d have 4-6 more points and be looking safe.
Flips sake mate, I admire your optimistic outlook but even with six more points we'd still be 2nd bottom and far from looking safe.
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No manager can guarantee success but by the actions of the previous so called manager and the board they’ve guaranteed failure. Blame Hurst if you want but the die was cast long before he arrived.
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just some stats that may debunk 1 or 2 arguments
Hurst last 6 = won 1, drawn 4, lost 1 = 7 points Holloway last 6 = won 1, drawn 1, lost 4 = 4 points
Hurst last 10 = won 1, drawn 7 lost 2 = 10 points Holloway last 10 (including FA Cup at Dagenham) won 2, drawn 1, lost 7 = 7 points
presuming 1878 make good their promises then Hurst will be able to operate without 1 hand tied behind his back. I'm sure he will have seen enough things at Ipshit as to their set up, facilities and back up staff which will make massive improvements
Not a very good point to make in support of Paul Hurst as that is just about relegation form. In the past 18 years since two teams were relegated 23 teams have gone down scoring 40 points or more.
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just some stats that may debunk 1 or 2 arguments
Hurst last 6 = won 1, drawn 4, lost 1 = 7 points Holloway last 6 = won 1, drawn 1, lost 4 = 4 points
Hurst last 10 = won 1, drawn 7 lost 2 = 10 points Holloway last 10 (including FA Cup at Dagenham) won 2, drawn 1, lost 7 = 7 points
presuming 1878 make good their promises then Hurst will be able to operate without 1 hand tied behind his back. I'm sure he will have seen enough things at Ipshit as to their set up, facilities and back up staff which will make massive improvements
If their facilities are so wonderful, how come he turned them into a team at the bottom of the Championship?
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Not a very good point to make in support of Paul Hurst as that is just about relegation form.
In the past 18 years since two teams were relegated 23 teams have gone down scoring 40 points or more.
but according to a number of people on here he is doing a far worse job than Holloway . Those stats prove them wrong, and if we'd have continued with Holloway's form we'd be relegated already as to your facetious comment about Ipshit; they are a basket case, and plenty of others have tried and failed there. They are a club 5 - 10 times bigger than we are ,so it's hardly a damning indictment of him that he didn't do very well there. I'm sure he will have learnt an awful lot of things as a result of the experience
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but according to a number of people on here he is doing a far worse job than Holloway . Those stats prove them wrong, and if we'd have continued with Holloway's form we'd be relegated already
as to your facetious comment about Ipshit; they are a basket case, and plenty of others have tried and failed there. They are a club 5 - 10 times bigger than we are ,so it's hardly a damning indictment of him that he didn't do very well there. I'm sure he will have learnt an awful lot of things as a result of the experience
I have no doubt Holloway would have taken us down but the simple fact is that currently Hurst is still behind Holloway's points per game total. As regards the Ipswich comment I was just pointing out that having wonderful facilities don't make a great team as some on here seem to suggest that as soon as we have a great training ground we are going to sign some great players and shoot up the Leagues.
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