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Humbercod
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How is the population in England & Wales coping since they introduced jabs for each age group?

12-14 27% more deaths compared to 5 year average

15-19 17% more deaths compared to 5 year average

20-24 13% more deaths compared to 5 year average

25-29 6% more deaths compared to 5 year average

30-34 13% more deaths compared to 5 year average

35-39 14% more deaths compared to 5 year average

40-44 17% more deaths compared to 5 year average

45-49 5% more deaths compared to 5 year average

50-54 7% more deaths compared to 5 year average

55-59 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

60-64 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

65-69 0% more deaths compared to 5 year average

70-74 10% more deaths compared to 5 year average

75-79 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

80-84 4% more deaths compared to 5 year average

85-89 1% more deaths compared to 5 year average

90+ 3% more deaths compared to 5 year average

Source -
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep.....e=Revue%20newsletter

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep.....e=Revue%20newsletter

Remember kids it’s to save granny!
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Is that the best you've got?

Problem with deniers like you is that you will only follow the science that fits your own narrative.

Vitamin D from some bloke on Youtube and Invermectin.

You come across like Trump and his insane ramblings about light therapy and Hydroxychloroquine.


Problem with government disciple’s like you, is what lead the Nazi’s to power.

Dr John Campbell one of the most respected Covid researchers you will find, totally non biased linking everything he reports with sourced bona fide data.

Mask on back behind the sofa let the rest of us get on with living our lives FFS!
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Mask mandated Scotland announce 6 cases of new variant 😷
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How is the population in England & Wales coping since they introduced jabs for each age group?

12-14 27% more deaths compared to 5 year average

15-19 17% more deaths compared to 5 year average

20-24 13% more deaths compared to 5 year average

25-29 6% more deaths compared to 5 year average

30-34 13% more deaths compared to 5 year average

35-39 14% more deaths compared to 5 year average

40-44 17% more deaths compared to 5 year average

45-49 5% more deaths compared to 5 year average

50-54 7% more deaths compared to 5 year average

55-59 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

60-64 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

65-69 0% more deaths compared to 5 year average

70-74 10% more deaths compared to 5 year average

75-79 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

80-84 4% more deaths compared to 5 year average

85-89 1% more deaths compared to 5 year average

90+ 3% more deaths compared to 5 year average

Source -
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep.....e=Revue%20newsletter

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep.....e=Revue%20newsletter

Remember kids it’s to save granny!


What's wrong with saving Grandad?



You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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Anti vax person dies wishing they'd had the vacine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne.....-tested-animals.html


This poor chap weighed 19 stone, just saying


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Quoted from Humbercod
How is the population in England & Wales coping since they introduced jabs for each age group?

12-14 27% more deaths compared to 5 year average

15-19 17% more deaths compared to 5 year average

20-24 13% more deaths compared to 5 year average

25-29 6% more deaths compared to 5 year average

30-34 13% more deaths compared to 5 year average

35-39 14% more deaths compared to 5 year average

40-44 17% more deaths compared to 5 year average

45-49 5% more deaths compared to 5 year average

50-54 7% more deaths compared to 5 year average

55-59 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

60-64 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

65-69 0% more deaths compared to 5 year average

70-74 10% more deaths compared to 5 year average

75-79 11% more deaths compared to 5 year average

80-84 4% more deaths compared to 5 year average

85-89 1% more deaths compared to 5 year average

90+ 3% more deaths compared to 5 year average

Source -
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep.....e=Revue%20newsletter

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep.....e=Revue%20newsletter

Remember kids it’s to save granny!


Except that's complete rubbish isn't it? And those sources don't show that at all. The title of those links literally says it's up to 2020 and gives data up to December 31st of last year. But the first vaccine was given on the 8th December last year. And virtually nobody under the age of 80 got one until January 2021 at the earliest.
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Except that's complete rubbish isn't it? And those sources don't show that at all. The title of those links literally says it's up to 2020 and gives data up to December 31st of last year. But the first vaccine was given on the 8th December last year. And virtually nobody under the age of 80 got one until January 2021 at the earliest.


Something wrong with you they Go all the way up to November 2021
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Problem with government disciple’s like you, is what lead the Nazi’s to power.

Dr John Campbell one of the most respected Covid researchers you will find, totally non biased linking everything he reports with sourced bona fide data.

Mask on back behind the sofa let the rest of us get on with living our lives FFS!


Where to start.

I couldn't be further from a government disciple and the Nazi analogy is just laughable.

You're the right winger here, not me. You're the one who wanted out of Europe and Johnny Foreigner sent back where he came from. That's the sort of thinking that leads to the rise of parties like the Nazi's.
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Where to start.

I couldn't be further from a government disciple and the Nazi analogy is just laughable.

You're the right winger here, not me. You're the one who wanted out of Europe and Johnny Foreigner sent back where he came from. That's the sort of thinking that leads to the rise of parties like the Nazi's.


Correction no.1 I wanted out the EU!
Correction no.2 I am Pro-skilled immigration!
Pro-collectivist and pro-socialist and that sort of thinking I’m most certainty not!
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There does seem to be uncharacteristic worry about this variant from the government who so far have always been behind the curve, hopefully they have learnt that waiting until it’s too late is a disaster
I saw a report in The.Mail which said the vaccine could be 8 times less effective against Omicron and other reports it is a milder strain and could hopefully see the start of the end of the pandemic. Hopefully the latter is the case, either way I believe the scientific evidence is much more clear than is being told to us
The cynic in me is thinking the Government has bought loads of virus doses that may become obsolete soon either way and needs to get them used up before they become ineffective  When our scientists are saying one day that the optimal time for a booster is six months and the next that it is now three months something doesn’t add up.
I am certainly not anti vaccine, my grandmother and two friends have died from COVID and I am grateful to have had my three, but it will be interesting to see if any other country follows this course. There appears to be great political capital in crowing about vaccine rollouts but in terms of deaths we have performed barring Russia the worst in all Europe even though it is still being spun as a great success.  
When one of our chief scientists starts talking in football analogies like we are all kids and don’t understand simple science it shows what those at the top think about the intelligence of the population
I would like to think that if a new strain as  potentially dangerous as omicron was discovered here first it would be reported straight away, however the way South Africa has been cut off for doing the right thing makes me wonder, either way recent history has shown once it’s out there dominant strains take over and this looks like it will be the case with Omicron, let’s hope that it’s not so deadly or can be contained better.
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