Should PH be given next season to rebuild?

Changing the whole side mid-season didn't work, though he definitely brought some better players in. We had a virtually new team against sides who are well-oiled machines at this time of year. Had we started with this squad we'd have been more competitive as we'd be gelling at the same time as everyone else.

Blame Holloway, not Hurst.

Quoted from GrimRob

Changing the whole side mid-season didn't work, though he definitely brought some better players in. We had a virtually new team against sides who are well-oiled machines at this time of year. Had we started with this squad we'd have been more competitive as we'd be gelling at the same time as everyone else.

Blame Holloway, not Hurst.

Scunthorpe, Southend, Stevenage, Port Vale, Leyton Orient well oiled machines, really?

Newell's team was well oiled.

Quoted from GrimRob

Changing the whole side mid-season didn't work, though he definitely brought some better players in. We had a virtually new team against sides who are well-oiled machines at this time of year. Had we started with this squad we'd have been more competitive as we'd be gelling at the same time as everyone else.

Blame Holloway, not Hurst.

The Blame this season will always rest with Holloway and Fenty. However current results are down to Hurst. A preseason is say 6 weeks and we still haven't got a settled side, nor one that looks like winning anything. He's had 10 weeks and 10 games and nothing has improved. I'm fed up with excuses that don't hold water, Hurst has 15 games to save the season and needs to win half of them.

As positive as I am and an eternal optimist with my half full glass I can't see Hurst doing it.

For me he stays and I’m basing this on the takeover going ahead successfully.

With new owners there will come a period of change at the club, there has to be because we’re so far behind our competitors in every way on and off the field. Hurst knows exactly what the club is like and what it doesn’t have (proper coaching staff) and what it does have (portacabins) and therefore what it needs. Hurst is the football man who can direct the new owners where the priorities are.

With reference to his performance this season we can all agree that it’s been a disappointment but there are mitigating circumstances. The team he inherited plainly were not good enough either in footballing ability or character. You can point to Holloway’s points per game tally but do we honestly believe he would have stopped the slide if he’d remained? He was becoming increasingly erratic in his personality and showed no signs of being able to stop the decent.
Hurst has brought in almost a whole new side but has done so with his hands somewhat tied behind his back. The January window isn’t like the summer one, there are less players available and there’s less talent out there. He’s had to get cheap players in, work within the salary cap and actually get people who want to play for Grimsby even though we look like going out the football league. That is not an easy task and is reflected in the business we’ve been able to do.

Hurst deserves the chance to get us back because he did it before and for being brave enough to come back.
I won’t blame him when we go down and I’ll back him next season.

What ever happens the manager looks like he will have a squad of 50 already raring to go lol.

How many can we pay off if we go down? can we afford to? can we afford to sign new players?  sounds expensive.

Im for keeping Hurst btw.

I'm really surprised at the number of people who don't want to apportion any blame whatsoever to Hurst if we go down. Some good posters who I usually agree with everything they say included in that too.

If Holloway was such a bad manager, how come he was managing to at least pick up a few points, and wins, with his team before he left. Why couldn't Hurst do at least as well as Holloway with the squad he took over? He did worse with it than Holloway. Holloway did win a game (Scunny at home) shortly before he left too so whilst not in spectacular form, it's not like we were on a big winless run like we are now.

Now he's brought his own team in, things still haven't improved. They've actually got worse. If he makes it to the end of the season he'll have had 25 games save us, having not even been in the bottom 2 when he took over.

I don't get this argument about Hurst having to bring in a completely new team.
There were a few of the squad worth keeping.
I don't see any of the 2 left backs he has signed being any better than Danny Preston, and now he has returned to his parent club.

If I knew how to get in touch with Jamie Pollock, I would advise him to find another club for Mattie.
Mattie is obviously not in Paul Hurst's plans, as are none of the younger players.
How supporters can think that Paul Hurst has changed since last being here is beyond me.

People ask who could we get as a new manager. If Ian Holloway was available, having not been here before, we supporters would welcome him with open arms, (if you get what I mean).
Whilst I realise that he won't come, I would love to see Adkins here, if only for his upbeat interviews, always backing the players and the supporters. A refreshing change.

Please don't keep Paul Hurst for next season.

It is going to need a miracle to get us back into the football league.

It appears since Hurst returned we’ve witnessed all of his bad traits rising to the fore but not had that conflicting feeling as games are won with small margins. Without victories a pragmatic and dour Hurst will never ever feel like the right appointment for a serious number of supporters.

I thought Holloway would use January to improve the team sufficiently to see us survive ok but he chose the easy option and legged it but I also thought Hurst would see us safe but bored, however, that seemed a price worth paying.

Personally I would not want him to stay if we go down but as I’ve said previously I can’t ever pick the right guy to manage us as we seem to be the only club in the country that, season after season, go on lengthy runs where we are totally incapable of winning matches.

Quoted from cannylad68

I don't get this argument about Hurst having to bring in a completely new team.
There were a few of the squad worth keeping.
I don't see any of the 2 left backs he has signed being any better than Danny Preston, and now he has returned to his parent club.

If I knew how to get in touch with Jamie Pollock, I would advise him to find another club for Mattie.
Mattie is obviously not in Paul Hurst's plans, as are none of the younger players.
How supporters can think that Paul Hurst has changed since last being here is beyond me.

People ask who could we get as a new manager. If Ian Holloway was available, having not been here before, we supporters would welcome him with open arms, (if you get what I mean).
Whilst I realise that he won't come, I would love to see Adkins here, if only for his upbeat interviews, always backing the players and the supporters. A refreshing change.

Please don't keep Paul Hurst for next season.

It is going to need a miracle to get us back into the football league.

Changed in what way?

I don't think anyone was expecting any change.