Should PH be given next season to rebuild?

Most likely an unpopular opinion, however I believe we should give him the one season to rebuild (As most of our current squad are out of contract). So it will be like a clean slate. I think you have to be careful what you wish for in the National League, as we are able to see, there's a lot of teams that are stuck down there, Chesterfield (Who seem to now have the right formula), Barnet, Yeovil and Wrexham have all chopped and changed their managers and have been stuck down there, with Barnet looking as though they would be relegated, had there been relegation from the National league, and Chesterfield for the last couple of seasons have been flirting with relegation. Like I say, an unpopular opinion, but we don't want to see ourselves in the National League North.

Things were grim when he arrived, but I thought he would keep us up because we were not even in the bottom two, and he was going to bring in several players to bolster the squad.

Well, he brought in 11 or 12 players. And our results are worse than under Holloway.

He did not cause the problems, but now has to accept some portion of the blame. We should be doing better than being 5 points adrift at the bottom.

I don't know anymore. To be honest I'm sick to death of discussing it and hope that we just chuck money at it and do a Crawley/Fleetwood/Luton/Lincoln and storm the league from the start.

Or we get our act together and save our skins, so we don't have to find out. Still almost a third of the season left yet.

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Most likely an unpopular opinion, however I believe we should give him the one season to rebuild (As most of our current squad are out of contract). So it will be like a clean slate. I think you have to be careful what you wish for in the National League, as we are able to see, there's a lot of teams that are stuck down there, Chesterfield (Who seem to now have the right formula), Barnet, Yeovil and Wrexham have all chopped and changed their managers and have been stuck down there, with Barnet looking as though they would be relegated, had there been relegation from the National league, and Chesterfield for the last couple of seasons have been flirting with relegation. Like I say, an unpopular opinion, but we don't want to see ourselves in the National League North.

Abslutely right that we don't want to end up like Wrexham and clubs that get stuck down there. (I personally thought 6 years felt like an eternity last time we were there)

But we've got to remember there are clubs who bounce straight back up after dropping down to the conference. It can be done. Other teams make excuses about adapting to the level and needing time to gel...blah blah blah etc. But it can be done. So those don't wash with me.

Bristol Rovers and Cheltenham both bounced straight back up at the 1st attempt. Barnet and Leyton Orient were promoted as champions in their 2nd season down there.

Much like our ambition as a club under the current/outgoing board shouldn't have been just to avoid becoming a Bury, our ambition if we go down shouldn't just be to avoid becoming a Wrexham.

I'm reluctant to get rid of Hurst because I'm entirely unconvinced we'd replace him with anyone who'd be better. Maybe this position is somewhat influenced by Fenty and co's abject track record for managerial appointments, and under new ownership we might have a better chance of appointing someone who could quickly assemble a formidable side, but I dunno I'm still not convinced we'll find anyone better than Hurst.

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Most likely an unpopular opinion, however I believe we should give him the one season to rebuild (As most of our current squad are out of contract). So it will be like a clean slate. I think you have to be careful what you wish for in the National League, as we are able to see, there's a lot of teams that are stuck down there, Chesterfield (Who seem to now have the right formula), Barnet, Yeovil and Wrexham have all chopped and changed their managers and have been stuck down there, with Barnet looking as though they would be relegated, had there been relegation from the National league, and Chesterfield for the last couple of seasons have been flirting with relegation. Like I say, an unpopular opinion, but we don't want to see ourselves in the National League North.

I don't think it is that unpopular the poll it split down the middle. For what its worth I think that if we stick with Hurst whatever has happened on the pitch this season is immaterial, because my guess is he will sweep out the vast majority of these 40+ players we've got whether he signed them or not.

The advantage Hust has is that he does know the National League level in great depth and yes I think I would trust him to build an effective squad at that level if given a full close season.

He has just about rebuilt a whole team and taken us to a far worse position than we were when he started so a big NO from me.

If we go down with a huge points deficit from the 3rd from bottom team I would hope he had the decency to resign.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

I don't think it is that unpopular the poll it split down the middle. For what its worth I think that if we stick with Hurst whatever has happened on the pitch this season is immaterial, because my guess is he will sweep out the vast majority of these 40+ players we've got whether he signed them or not.

The advantage Hust has is that he does know the National League level in great depth and yes I think I would trust him to build an effective squad at that level if given a full close season.

He left the National League nearly 5 years ago.

Quoted from arryarryarry

He has just about rebuilt a whole team and taken us to a far worse position than we were when he started so a big NO from me.

You've stripped the 'rebuild' of any context. It:

- took place entirely within the mid-season transfer window where the only players available are free agents, out of form and young unproven loanees, or decent payers we'd have to pay a fee for
- required Hurst to immediately assess the squad and make decisions on who to keep and who to try to get replacements in for as he was only appointed 2 days before the window opened
- doesn't account for the fact we started January in place 94 of 96 in the league pyramid, sat 3 points above the relegation places, have excrement training facilities, were undergoing boardroom turmoil and had a reputation for stingy 'covid contracts', so hardly formed an attractive proposition for potential new signings

I'd like to see any manager perform a 'rebuild' in those circumstances and it's why i'm willing to give Hurst the benefit of the doubt for a bit longer. He's not done a great job since coming in, but 90% of our plight is due to long, medium and short-term incompetence by Fenty and the board.