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Indoctrination.
They shouldn't be compelled to pray and have a belief system at such a young and impressionable age. If they come to God in adulthood of their own volition, then so be it.
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It was suggest on the Film Thread that this might be a topic for discussion.
I am a Christian and fully believe in the life and death of Jesus Christ. People ask for proof of his life on this earth and learned people start at Genesis going onto the New Testament quoting various scriptures. Some making themselves multi millionaires with large ego's.
Having read a lot of this I have thought about the proof of Jesus Christ's life from a different angle. I am sure most are familiar with the Vatican which is my start. I am not a Catholic, but ask any Catholic who the first Pope was? St. Peter, as in St Peter's Basilica the present day Vatican.
St. Peter is the same Peter in the New Testament who wrote the Books 1 Peter and 2 Peter. The same Peter a disciple of Jesus whom Jesus said Mat 16.18 'Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church'.
This is my simple summary of proof why I believe in Jesus Christ without resorting to scriptures.
I would also add that I do not fly the flag of any Christian religion as in my opinion, all fall short of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Whether you believe, or want or do not want to believe, is your choice and a purely personal one. As I have said several times on other posts I respect people opinions and hope they respect mine.
I am an atheist and have been since roughly 8 years old when attending a CoE Primary School. It didn't stop me being interested enough in different religions to voluntarily do Religious Studies at GCSE. There are roughly 3,000 gods worshipped on earth. I'm guessing if you're a christian you don't believe in 2,999 of them. I don't believe in just 1 more than you. (I nicked that off Ricky Gervais) |
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I am an atheist and have been since roughly 8 years old when attending a CoE Primary School. It didn't stop me being interested enough in different religions to voluntarily do Religious Studies at GCSE.
There are roughly 3,000 gods worshipped on earth. I'm guessing if you're a christian you don't believe in 2,999 of them. I don't believe in just 1 more than you. (I nicked that off Ricky Gervais)
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I am an atheist and have been since roughly 8 years old when attending a CoE Primary School. It didn't stop me being interested enough in different religions to voluntarily do Religious Studies at GCSE.
There are roughly 3,000 gods worshipped on earth. I'm guessing if you're a christian you don't believe in 2,999 of them. I don't believe in just 1 more than you. (I nicked that off Ricky Gervais)
The problem with a lot of people who say they are Christians is that they just use the name of Jesus for their own ends. The CofE and RC both pretend to be poor and ask for money yet their churches are full of gold and precious metal cups etc., bank a/cs are amongst the most wealthy and their higher archy live like CEOs. The C of E has just put aside £100 million for slavery claims, this from a church that has no money. Then you have those who 'Take the Cloth' for a free house and pension and those that attend a church service to be seen. Unfortunately, all this gives the words of Jesus little meaning in the world today, as the opposite to what he spoke about is carried out in his name by those who call themselves Christians. |
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We do RE once a week. We have assemblies 5 days a week, 2 of which are done by a visitor from our local church, we do a prayer before lunch, in assembly and at the end of the school day, we do regular trips to the local church for different 'events'
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As with the monarchy, I struggle to see the role religion really plays in a modern day society but I suspect, given the current mental health crisis, we may see people turn to the church or religious leaders for solace or simply someone to talk to.
I think there’s a place for belief and it provides people something to cling to or feel safe around but I don’t think there’s a place for a controlling, take take take religion which relies on its congregations to be subservient to something which can’t be proved either way…especially in the name of Jesus Christ.
As with all organisations, there are wrong uns, although the Catholic Church seems to have much more than others. Not to mention their links to organised crime, people trafficking and money laundering…
If people want to believe then that’s up to them, there’s an argument the lie of Christmas and Santa is equally as damaging to some extent as the lie that one man created all this…it’s the outward marketing, the propaganda and, in the case of some religions, aggressive advertising of their religion…
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Unfortunately, videos and photo's never existed so you do have to rely on historians who confirmed the existence of Jesus. Thousands saw his miracles and hundreds saw him after his resurrection. When I was young if I had told my dad in 70 years time you will be cooking using micro waves in a steel cabinet, talking into a slim bit of plastic and shares an unknown thing called videos with people on the other side of the world, he would have called me insane.
Likewise, because you weren't there does not mean Jesus and his miracles did not happen.
I’m sorry but how do human technological advances in any way conflate to “well a man might have literally walked on water 2000 years ago”? |
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I do not believe any of the bible you have only got to play the game of Chinese whispers to know how stories get added to and changed dramatically from the original story.
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Have no trouble with people believing otherwise.
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I’m sorry but how do human technological advances in any way conflate to “well a man might have literally walked on water 2000 years ago”?
Unfortunately, today people do not to recognise the reports from the historians of the day. They wish to only accept the technology of today. |
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Unfortunately, today people do not to recognise the reports from the historians of the day. They wish to only accept the technology of today.
No ‘historians’ claimed that Jesus actually walked on water, something which is scientifically impossible. Technology has nothing to do with it, it’s just basic science. |
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