Trump   Biden

Interesting to see Trump way down the table and holier than tho Obama in the top 5.

Quoted from Humbercod

Interesting to see Trump way down the table and holier than tho Obama in the top 5.

Wasn’t Obama elected shortly after the 2008 financial crisis, which obviously affected his fiscal policy significantly?

Quoted from Humbercod

Once his tax bill went through jobs rocketed, with more vacancies than the number of people unemployed.

Literally a 2 second google:
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

Unemployment peaked around the time Obama came in, but that was caused by the recession before he took over, and its been going down at a steady rate ever since with no massive spike in jobs during Trumps tenure.

It’s certainly become the latest fashion trend to slag off Obama.

Seems easier to slag him off than face up to the reality of the outgoing fool. Is it because it’s easier to just make throw away comments about a bloke who lasted two terms rather than listing the countless incompetences of the outgoing president, do the home truths not hurt so much?

It says a lot about western politics and particularly American politics when the presidential campaign was two elderly fellas, in truth, out of touch with most things. How very forward thinking of them...

Quoted from scrumble

Literally a 2 second google:
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

Unemployment peaked around the time Obama came in, but that was caused by the recession before he took over, and its been going down at a steady rate ever since with no massive spike in jobs during Trumps tenure.

The Graph looks good either way for both men (pre-covid) but doesn’t tell the full story far from it.
When Obama and Biden left office in January 2017, there were 1.9 million more people unemployed than there were job openings.
But just over a year later Trump had reversed this with his tax and Jobs Act, the job vacancies exceeded the number of people unemployed for the first time in years, and it stayed like this for 24 consecutive months until covid as the graph points out.

And just to compare as the graph cannot show that eight years of the Obama and Biden administration, there wasn’t a single month when job openings exceeded the number of people unemployed. Absolute Zero.

And just to compare as again the graph cannot show year after year wage growth exceeded 3 percent for the first time in nearly a decade and stayed at or above 3 percent for 20 consecutive months until covid struck.. But under Team holy Obama and Biden there wasn’t a single post recession month when wage growth exceeded 3 percent. Again zero.

As much as people want to hate Trump you cannot ignore the facts, when I say he gave people hope with job creation and as a result a booming economy whether you like it or not.

Quoted from aldi_01

It’s certainly become the latest fashion trend to slag off Obama.

Seems easier to slag him off than face up to the reality of the outgoing fool. Is it because it’s easier to just make throw away comments about a bloke who lasted two terms rather than listing the countless incompetences of the outgoing president, do the home truths not hurt so much?

It says a lot about western politics and particularly American politics when the presidential campaign was two elderly fellas, in truth, out of touch with most things. How very forward thinking of them...

Let’s be clear Obama achieved nothing! One of the worst presidents in history who promised so much but achieved so little. I will give him credit for his deportation act to be fair, as he kicked out more people than Trump.

If Obama had achieved half as much as Trump, even over his full 8 years then they’d be chiselling his mug onto Rushmore as I type.

Quoted from aldi_01

It’s certainly become the latest fashion trend to slag off Obama.

Seems easier to slag him off than face up to the reality of the outgoing fool. Is it because it’s easier to just make throw away comments about a bloke who lasted two terms rather than listing the countless incompetences of the outgoing president, do the home truths not hurt so much?

It says a lot about western politics and particularly American politics when the presidential campaign was two elderly fellas, in truth, out of touch with most things. How very forward thinking of them...

Ah yes, if only we were back in the days of Reagan and Brezhnev.

Quoted from Humbercod

As much as people want to hate Trump you cannot ignore the facts, when I say he gave people hope with job creation and as a result a booming economy whether you like it or not.

I presume you voted for Labour at the last election, then? They promised enormous government expenditure which would have led to a booming economy at the expense of additional government debt. Of course, we'd have been left within something useful from this investment regardless of the debt. Not something which the US has managed from the cost of Trump's tax cuts.

Trump and his billionaire flunkies are some of the remaining folk who actually believe (well, at least claim to believe) the utterly discredited supply-side nonsense prevalent since the 1980s that thinks tax cuts lead to an increase in growth and revenue. The US national debt increased by almost $1 trillion during 2019 alone after Trump's cuts:

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20.....ises?t=1610494955547

Interestingly enough, the fiscal hawkiness of right-wingers in the US seems to disappear when their guy is in charge. Reagan doubled the national debt in real terms, GWB increased it massively as well. Obviously, there are wars and recessions which made differences and the recessions weren't always a fault of the government policy.

It really is laughable that some people think that Trump was in any way a competent president. He's dismantled much of the US government and it will take years and a lot of money to rebuild what has been destroyed. The alternative will be for the country to fall apart. Not sure if Biden is up to the job or not or even how much he plans to do. A lot depend on what his backers want, I suppose. That's life in US politics (and UK politics in recent years).

Trump reaches a new low......

"In his final week in office, President Donald Trump finally earned himself a superlative distinction for the history books: the first president in U.S. history to be impeached twice."

Quoted from Maringer

I presume you voted for Labour at the last election, then? They promised enormous government expenditure which would have led to a booming economy at the expense of additional government debt. Of course, we'd have been left within something useful from this investment regardless of the debt. Not something which the US has managed from the cost of Trump's tax cuts.

Trump and his billionaire flunkies are some of the remaining folk who actually believe (well, at least claim to believe) the utterly discredited supply-side nonsense prevalent since the 1980s that thinks tax cuts lead to an increase in growth and revenue. The US national debt increased by almost $1 trillion during 2019 alone after Trump's cuts:

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20.....ises?t=1610494955547

Interestingly enough, the fiscal hawkiness of right-wingers in the US seems to disappear when their guy is in charge. Reagan doubled the national debt in real terms, GWB increased it massively as well. Obviously, there are wars and recessions which made differences and the recessions weren't always a fault of the government policy.

It really is laughable that some people think that Trump was in any way a competent president. He's dismantled much of the US government and it will take years and a lot of money to rebuild what has been destroyed. The alternative will be for the country to fall apart. Not sure if Biden is up to the job or not or even how much he plans to do. A lot depend on what his backers want, I suppose. That's life in US politics (and UK politics in recent years).

Under a Corbyn government the rich (wealth creators) would of fled, and jobs would of disappeared. People would be better off on benefits. (until the money run out).

It’s laughable people (the left) think he wasn’t a competent president, you told us (the left) he would create war with Russia,North Korea and Iran, I laughed as the hysterical Clinton supporters on social media predicted WW3.
But in reality he he bonded with Putin, brokered peace in the Middle East, he brought peace in the Korean Peninsula with his historic meeting with the Supreme leader, he stood up to Iran (bye bye General) stood up to China, we also got see ISIS as a force wiped out under his watch. What we didn’t see as with past presidents was a war! maybe that’s where he lacks in competency. I’m sure the Biden resume will address this.