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KingstonMariner
November 5, 2020, 5:22pm
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I’m beginning to wonder if RRFC has an orange tan given the conspiracy theory he’s putting forward here.


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I’m beginning to wonder if RRFC has an orange tan given the conspiracy theory he’s putting forward here.


The 'democrat puppet-master' stuff is very Foxy isn't it?!
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You think every blue collar worker across the USA is a racist? If that were true he wouldn't have won two elections so comfortably.


Stats from 2016 election...

White with no college degree (34% of electorate): Trump 67% Clinton 28%
White with college degree (37% of electorate): Trump 49% Clinton 45%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

Very simply, the more highly educated you are the more likely you are to vote Democrat.

So white "blue collar" workers are very much "Trump's base". It doesn't make them racist, but if they vote for a racist then they can't complain when that label is thrown at them.
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We were talking specifically about Obama in the context of that conversation and RRFC stating he had gone down like a lead balloon. Blue collar is absolutely Trump's base I agree. Some pretty dated economic theories about rebuilding the manufacturing sector and closing the trade deficit understandably appealed to that demographic.
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Biden predicted to take Wisconsin, giving him a total so far of 253, needing 17 more.

Meanwhile, Trump gets more desperate and deranged in his insistence that the Democrats are cheating.

Thing is, if there were any chance that fraudulent voting was a possibility, it's just as likely, if not more so, that it would be Trump doing it. Don't his supporters realise that?

It works both ways.
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Trump's team knew that the midwest states would count the postal vote last, so it was a fair bet to say that it would play out much as it has done if he won Florida and the election hinged most likely on the same states it did last time. I'd like to speculate that he's had postal voting in his radar for some time as something to flag up and try and hang on to power with should he need to challenge the results in a close race.

If I was the Republican Party I'd be happy with running the Senate and handing over to the Dems for the next 4 years as it's going to be a pretty rough ride for whoever is in control. Trump's a liability for them, best wash their hands of him.


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Bloody hell they aren't half dragging their heels...
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It is perfectly reasonable to investigate any electoral fraud. It is perfectly reasonable to ask for recounts where the margin is <1%.

It is not acceptable to tweet and then rant during press conferences infactual, inflammatory rubbish which is going to incite a loyal, cultish support.

Other republicans need to intervene. They still have control the senate and will probably return in 4 years. Trump is damaging the country, the party and the electoral system.
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Trump rallied his supporters to attend in person and due to COVID Biden encouraged people to go postal. Consequently, the postal vote is heavily in Biden’s favour.

Whether Donald always saw this as a tactic I’m unsure but it sure is convenient for the kind of bullish!t we are hearing at the moment.

I saw the Trump camp wheel out a batty old woman as ‘evidence’ of electoral fraud last night, I thought it was a comedy sketch. It was pure and utter desperation and I’m sure Trump supporters will have got excited by it but it was car crash TV, embarrassing and undignified.


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It is perfectly reasonable to investigate any electoral fraud. It is perfectly reasonable to ask for recounts where the margin is <1%.

It is not acceptable to tweet and then rant during press conferences infactual, inflammatory rubbish which is going to incite a loyal, cultish support.

Other republicans need to intervene. They still have control the senate and will probably return in 4 years. Trump is damaging the country, the party and the electoral system.


Why does anyone need to intervene? If it looks as bad as you say then surely he is only harming himself?

Trump is not damaging the country, he is only damaging Trump. He is a prize prat but he has a right to be heard and to rant if he wants. Networks refusing to show that are more damaging to the country than he is.



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