Coronavirus

So many experts on here who have missed their true vocation in life. It's so easy to troll the Internet and papers to find articles and reports that suit their personal political agenda.

Quoted from rancido

So many experts on here who have missed their true vocation in life. It's so easy to troll the Internet and papers to find articles and reports that suit their personal political agenda.

Lazy comment. Don't include myself, but there are arguments from both sides which are articulate, well researched and informative.

Confirmation bias at work, there. Feel free to rebut any of the points made or the reasoning behind them. Alternatively, post some evidence that the herd immunity tactic was a good one with valid scientific basis (though this wouldn't then explain why the government has done a u-turn).

It's not a party political thing to point out when the government has failed to protect the welfare of its citizens well enough. I'd be just as critical had a Labour/Coalition government made the same failings and then obfuscated afterwards to try and deflect blame.

Quoted from Maringer

Confirmation bias at work, there. Feel free to rebut any of the points made or the reasoning behind them. Alternatively, post some evidence that the herd immunity tactic was a good one with valid scientific basis (though this wouldn't then explain why the government has done a u-turn).

It's not a party political thing to point out when the government has failed to protect the welfare of its citizens well enough. I'd be just as critical had a Labour/Coalition government made the same failings and then obfuscated afterwards to try and deflect blame.

Obfuscated! Don't let the articulate comment go to your head Maringer!!!!

Quoted from rancido

So many experts on here who have missed their true vocation in life. It's so easy to troll the Internet and papers to find articles and reports that suit their personal political agenda.

Yes maybe trying to sway some of the sycophants on here that there is and was a different course and things need to questioned.  You argued the British way of just ignoring it and hoping for it to pass and kill a few of the old as the Government seemed to want early shouldn’t be questioned you still say the Government is right with completely the opposite policy.  
The fact is we have failed, Johnson thought it was a disease for everyone else and ignored his own advice.  Hancock is peddling dangerous  lies about PPE.   Johnson is unlikely to survive a revue of this given his incompetence and minsters are fighting like rats in a sack for positioning so let’s not pretend things aren’t political.
I am sure you can find similar articles saying how well the UK government and Johnson has handled this?  For me I read a wide spectrum and struggle to find one

Quoted from codcheeky

Yes maybe trying to sway some of the sycophants on here that there is and was a different course and things need to questioned.  You argued the British way of just ignoring it and hoping for it to pass and kill a few of the old as the Government seemed to want early shouldn’t be questioned you still say the Government is right with completely the opposite policy.  
The fact is we have failed, Johnson thought it was a disease for everyone else and ignored his own advice.  Hancock is peddling dangerous  lies about PPE.   Johnson is unlikely to survive a revue of this given his incompetence and minsters are fighting like rats in a sack for positioning so let’s not pretend things aren’t political.
I am sure you can find similar articles saying how well the UK government and Johnson has handled this?  For me I read a wide spectrum and struggle to find one

You should be a bookie! With the possible exception of Xi and Putin I bet you would struggle to find supportive articles about any leader in any country over this!

The point is that the full measure of how well a country has dealt with the virus can and will only become clear in retrospect, after review. Presumably in the case of the UK this will be either judicial and/or public enquiry. But until that point it is always going to be a case of which country is handling it the least worst based on contemporary available information.

I criticise Johnson for not taking the bull by the horns sooner but other than that, people can only work with the resources they have and the constraints of the situation they are in. Why those resources and constraints exist is a completely different and irrelevant argument that can only be dealt with in review. Until then opinion and conjecture based theories based on personal political proclivities will abound. The key lies in not being obsessed with yesterday but to look at today and tomorrow.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

You should be a bookie! With the possible exception of Xi and Putin I bet you would struggle to find supportive articles about any leader in any country over this!

The point is that the full measure of how well a country has dealt with the virus can and will only become clear in retrospect, after review. Presumably in the case of the UK this will be either judicial and/or public enquiry. But until that point it is always going to be a case of which country is handling it the least worst based on contemporary available information.

I criticise Johnson for not taking the bull by the horns sooner but other than that, people can only work with the resources they have and the constraints of the situation they are in. Why those resources and constraints exist is a completely different and irrelevant argument that can only be dealt with in review. Until then opinion and conjecture based theories based on personal political proclivities will abound. The key lies in not being obsessed with yesterday but to look at today and tomorrow.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/e.....oronavirus-response/ Nope, two seconds.

Quoted from rancido

So many experts on here who have missed their true vocation in life. It's so easy to troll the Internet and papers to find articles and reports that suit their personal political agenda.

I'm sure most don't consider themselves "experts"
Most are questioning the strategy regardless of the political stance.
How the government has performed will come out years down the line.
The interview with the prof (Sir Jeremy Farrar,SAGE) was enlightening.

Comparison between Ireland & UK approach.


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249127908876128259.html

So one figure that has come out is that crime has dropped by over 20%, so what are the detectives, eg CID, and crime scene investigators doing, I doubt they are in uniform out on the beat.