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smokey111
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We won't go down and we won't make the play offs, so why not let Limbrick have an extended run to instill his methods. He may be young but has managerial experience. Let him try to move out the players he doesn't fancy and integrate 2/3 more. 13th or 19th it doesn't really matter as long as we see a system of play, motivated players and a few goals. The thing that frustrated me most about MJ was that I still don't understand how we were set up to play.


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We won't go down and we won't make the play offs, so why not let Limbrick have an extended run to instill his methods. He may be young but has managerial experience. Let him try to move out the players he doesn't fancy and integrate 2/3 more. 13th or 19th it doesn't really matter as long as we see a system of play, motivated players and a few goals. The thing that frustrated me most about MJ was that I still don't understand how we were set up to play.


I don't really think he knew how we were set up, so what chance did we have!! ..
Funnily enough I have a feeling limbrick may just do okay with us, time will tell but he's certainly noticed and acted on what needed changing...
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I've never been a professional footballer but I'd imagine that when a totally new manager walks through the door you raise your game to impress them because they might not know your strengths.

Limbrick already knows our players well, so it's perhaps why we haven't got that 'new manager bounce' that sometimes comes with a new appointment.

Having said that, it's balanced out by his knowledge of the players, so he already knows their limits and capabilities and can make quick decisions on what to do for the next match.

It's a tough situation for him. He's had three really tough fixtures to begin with, and the fourth doesn't look any easier!

The fact that we haven't scored in those three games bothers me and everyone else, and I'm sure it'll bother AL and the team. But we have seen a gradual improvement (I think we can all agree on that).

The problem with not scoring or winning any of those three games is that it puts pressure on the next, and if we just happen to have an off day then immediately the fans become impatient at four winless games.


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We won't go down and we won't make the play offs, so why not let Limbrick have an extended run to instill his methods. He may be young but has managerial experience. Let him try to move out the players he doesn't fancy and integrate 2/3 more. 13th or 19th it doesn't really matter as long as we see a system of play, motivated players and a few goals. The thing that frustrated me most about MJ was that I still don't understand how we were set up to play.


We won't make the play offs? Why on earth not?

We had a lousy manager but we do have some half decent but disorganised and dispirited players. That sort of defeatist attitude that leads directly to relegation. Do not pass Go, Do not collect £200.

I for one have not given up hope as yet of making the play offs and that should be the minimum target set for any new manager in December whether Limbrick or Pep.



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Minimum target. Get a grip.

Ok.....I don't think we will make the play offs. That isn't defeatist, it is realistic. Quite willing to have a charity bet with you to that effect. I have already seen enough of this team to see that consistency is one of their achilles' heels. We need to go at 2 points a game from now on in. Can you see us getting 3 wins and a draw every 5 games?


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Did they?

Were you in a coma at that time?

Neil Woods was appointed caretaker manager on the 18th October 2009. Whilst caretaker his first 4 games resulted in 3 defeats and 1 draw (2-2 at home to Accrington) including being dumped out of the FA Cup at home by non league Bath City. We then drew the next 2 games.

He was appointed full first team manager on the 23rd November 2009. His first full game resulted in us being spanked 0-3 at home to Bradford City.

His first win didn't come until the 6th March 2010.

The worst decision in the history of this fine club made by a Board of Grimsby Town Football Club and all those who were involved in that decision should hang their heads in shame for evermore.


Yes they did ....the performances picked up!! ...we actually looked interested  and there was some semblance of style  ....the results never that i grant you but it was  probably because the performances picked up was why he was given 25 games to get a win.......which is why i mentioned it today we cant go down the same road now


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Listening to JF’s responses to questions at the AGM there appears to be two factors that will keep Limbrick in post for at least a few weeks,

Firstly, it is evident the board have given Shutes a deadline to confirm if the club should be focussing on the docks or Freemo as our new home.

Secondly, if this board remains in place they seem to want to appoint a Director of Football/Recruitment Manager to rid the club of this high player turnover when we change Managers. Thus we have chicken & egg on which role would be recruited first.

Thirdly, if Shutes confirms the Docks, assume this will come with a completion date and opinions on appointing a new Manager.

Thus a number of reasons why AL may be here until Christmas at least.
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I've never been a professional footballer but I'd imagine that when a totally new manager walks through the door you raise your game to impress them because they might not know your strengths.

Limbrick already knows our players well, so it's perhaps why we haven't got that 'new manager bounce' that sometimes comes with a new appointment.

Having said that, it's balanced out by his knowledge of the players, so he already knows their limits and capabilities and can make quick decisions on what to do for the next match.

It's a tough situation for him. He's had three really tough fixtures to begin with, and the fourth doesn't look any easier!

The fact that we haven't scored in those three games bothers me and everyone else, and I'm sure it'll bother AL and the team. But we have seen a gradual improvement (I think we can all agree on that).

The problem with not scoring or winning any of those three games is that it puts pressure on the next, and if we just happen to have an off day then immediately the fans become impatient at four winless games.


I'd be more bothered if we weren't creating chances, but against Cheltenham we had half-a-dozen or more...and missed them all!

That's football when the team's low on confidence. I'd like to see a regular starting XI - injuries permitting. I guess that's "Get on your dinosaur and ride home, Gramps"
for the kids of today. But it gives confidence (at least a vote of) to the starters, and provokes a response in the rest of the squad from the players you most likely want
to keep
.

Paul Groves managed 68 starts in a season without any specialist fitness coach assistance...just saying.








Mind you, that was Paul Groves...
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You've got to remember the players have been shot of confidence running around like headless chickens the last two or three months but now they looking like a coherent team with a plan and creating a lot of chances.

Unfortunately they haven't been able to put them away, the strikers have been impotent for so long could anybody come in, click their fingers and immediately they find their shooting boots?

Is there any guarantee they would have come in and improved performances? I'd say if there is to be a new guy he'd be starting on a better footing taking over from Limbrick's organised side than Jolley's shambles. So at the very least AL could be seen as a springboard.

And as for the Neil Woods comparison, I don't think AL falls into the no experience of managing seniors and too soft and nice to grapple with them bracket. Plus this squad have proven they can actually be decent and hit playoff form (we're too off the pace I'd say but we've shown we can look the biz).

So if we play top of the table Swindon off the park, or go toe to toe with them in a rip-roaring back and forth battle, but can't take advantage of several gilted edged chances but they clinical when get their odd one and end up drawing or losing by odd goal then people want him jettisoned? That's a bit harsh I'd say, get the performances and the results will come.
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Yes they did ....the performances picked up!! ...we actually looked interested and there was some semblance of style  ....the results never that i grant you but it was  probably because the performances picked up was why he was given 25 games to get a win.......which is why i mentioned it today we cant go down the same road now


Well that's not how I remember it.

I and many others were dumbfounded when he was appointed in the full time position and said so at the time in fact I think I said he would take us down and sadly that is what happened.

PS we were excrement against Bath City.
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