Quoted from Teesknees

[quote=1291]personally I think its out of 5

Coleen Nolan
Jack Hargreaves
Kim Wild
Lawson and Stockdale
Sigourney Weaver

I'd go for Weaver... in her prime?!

Quoted from GollyGTFC

We need the new manager in ASAP. Probably too late for Tuesday night, but after Cheltenham there is 11 days until next match. Perfect chance to appoint a new manager maybe Wednesday or Thursday next week and give them a week to work with what they’ve inherited.

Any names doing the rounds? Harry Kewell? Steve Watson? Kevin Phillips? Steve Evans? Pete Wild? Kevin Nolan? Ben Futcher? John Sheridan? Tim Flowers?

Quoted from marinerdazza

How! will we attract Jack Hargreaves? I thought he was out of town?

Quoted from chaos33

Well I agree that we need a new manager swiftly but that is a distinctly underwhelming menu of options if you ask me - mostly populated by people who either aren’t managing now or who haven’t really achieved anything in management but who have been listed because they have some form of past connection with the club. Futcher, Hargreaves, Stockdale....? Why? They wouldn’t be getting a look in elsewhere at EFL level. Chuck in a couple of others who would probably be fairly cheap so would enable us to carry on in the same vein trying to hold our own without really making a statement or investing in some ambitious objectives and you’ll forgive me if I don’t get too excited.

I do hope we are going to make a well considered and purposeful statement of intent with this next appointment because this depressing, repetitive pattern of being utterly sh1t in the end is sapping my will to go on paying any interest.

Quoted from lee65

He'd certainly be "steady" and "calm", but cant see him bringing excitement back to BP  :)

(you realise very few people will know who you are talking about!)

Quoted from Teesknees

He could be the new manager, but not sure... How...... as he's dead!

Bunty's gone but Fred's still around!

Quoted from Teesknees

He could be the new manager, but not sure... How...... as he's dead!

Bunty's gone but Fred's still around!

Quoted from Meza

personally I think its out of 5

Nolan
Hargreaves
Wild
Stockdale
Weaver

Quoted from chaos33

Futcher, Hargreaves, Stockdale....? Why? They wouldn’t be getting a look in elsewhere at EFL level.

Quoted from Poojah

I think that’s a pretty good litmus test right there. If they wouldn’t make the shortlist of any other League Two club then why should they make ours? Sentimentality and ‘connections’ don’t cut it - they very, very rarely pay off in football.

That said; realism is needed. How attractive is this role right now? This club is a manager’s graveyard. Since 1994, 25 years, only two managers have evaded the sack - Slade MK1 and Hurst (I’m purposely not differentiating between sackings and mutual consent, because that’s just bóllocks).

No manager sacked by this club since 2004 (Paul Groves) have gone on to manage another league side since. It looks unlikely Jolley will buck that trend. Come here, get it wrong (as most do) and your career is over.

I reckon our list of prospects is a mix of League Two semi-failures (Nolan, Kewell), aspirational non-leaguers (Weaver, Evatt, Flowers) and first-time chancers (who knows?). It’s entirely possible many of the above don’t fancy it for a variety of reasons.

My, raw, gut feeling is we’ll end up with someone even more obscure of any of those I’ve mentioned, as we did with Jolley who to his credit kept us up and stabilised the club. Time will tell.

Quoted from Meza

personally I think its out of 5

Nolan
Hargreaves
Wild
Stockdale
Weaver

Quoted from chaos33

Why do you ‘personally think’ that? What’s that based on and what do you know? Seems a bit random (and low grade) to me.

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Sorry but who is Weaver?

The ex Man City keeper?

Quoted from Mayaman

I had a crush on Kim Wild, so she'll do.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Just a question. Why are so many Town fans desperate for us to appoint an up and coming manager who’s done a good job in their first job in Non-League.

Can’t we maybe give a first chance to an impressive applicant? Why do we need to appoint someone who has already managed further down the pyramid?

Quoted from Mayaman

I had a crush on Kim Wild, so she'll do.

Quoted from Civvy at last

I hate to burst anybody’s bubble.
But it’s not just a question of who we want.
There’s the slight problem of them actually wanting to come here.  
And at this particular moment in time we’re not exactly a brilliant prospect. No money for Jan,
And a look round BP and Cheapside isn’t going to be a deal breaker either.  I’ve finally managed to accept (not necessarily agree it’s right though) where we are. So the board won’t exactly e spoilt for choice !!!

Quoted from Mayaman

I had a crush on Kim Wild, so she'll do.

Quoted from dicko995

Alan Buckley has attended many a game, on the radio he tells us all whats wrong, even if its temporary, pick up the phone John, and give him a call, give him a tracksuit and let him try and unravel this mess. Too many names are being bantered about, and the clock is ticking, don't leave it too late. And when he answers the phone John... call him Sir.  :)

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Went to fortnum and masons years ago for Christmas and ended up sharing a table with her dad!

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Went to fortnum and masons years ago for Christmas and ended up sharing a table with her dad!

Quoted from dicko995

Alan Buckley has attended many a game, on the radio he tells us all whats wrong, even if its temporary, pick up the phone John, and give him a call, give him a tracksuit and let him try and unravel this mess. Too many names are being bantered about, and the clock is ticking, don't leave it too late. And when he answers the phone John... call him Sir.  :)

Quoted from jamesgtfc

No chance of Weaver, his dad is one of the richest men in Yorkshire .

Quoted from Abdul19

Simon Weaver, Harrogate Town.

(As alluded to, his dad is the chairman, so I'd class this guess as good as one of those ones off Family Fortunes!)

Quoted from dicko995

Rancido, ive been watching Town since I was 6 years old, I was a regular in the Boys Stand in the Barrets, my elder brother took me to every game, so that adds up to 59 years of being a Town fan. Ive seen managers come and go, seen the demise of bringing in player managers of Bobby Kennedy and Mike Lyons, after Ron Ashman left, I can only count a few managers who went for the glory of the Mariner Badge, Buckley was one of them, besides Laurie there hasn't been a definite messiah. I pledged a donation for Joe Waters, wined and dined on coca cola and burger at George Higgins house, attende the Ground to watch the players train, and get autographs. So don't tell me I never watched Alan Buckley manage us, or even forgotten. I simply added to a topic on here, and as usual, I get an idiot calling me for my thought on the subject. Its always the same on here, you try to put your reasons forward for thought, and then someone ridicules ya.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Ian Evatt (38), is manager of Barrow, who are top of the National League with a game in hand.  Impressive on a small budget, and being geographically isolated.  

Rod Liddle in the Sports Times today devoted all his article to their impressive rise.  They just escaped relegation last season and started this season with only 6 registered players. Their owner stepped down a year ago and the club have not looked back since (you could not make this up).

A consortium of 4 local businessmen were committed to turning dire finances round.

Ian Evatt has got the team playing (according to Liddle) “neat possession football and, in away games, counterattacking with speed and precision.  There is no hoofing, no bludgeoning.  They pass the ball with a panache that would do credit to a Championship side”.

This footballing philosophy is light-years away from the football that we are generally producing.  Would he be a good fit for us or not?  Why would he want to come here?

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Does this make us any different from the vast majority of other clubs in League 1 or 2?

Quoted from Ipswin

I can't think of any reason at all why Evatt would want to leave a club at the top of the Conference and possibly on the brink of a return to the football league after so many years (which would make him a legend forever in the town) and with a new go ahead consortium in charge to come to Grimsby Town possibly on the brink of swapping places with Barrow and run by a board who are totally clueless and lacking ambition.  

Quoted from jamesgtfc

No chance of Weaver, his dad is one of the richest men in Yorkshire and his job at Harrogate must be one of the safest management jobs around.

Quoted from Saudimariner

Eeee, and our Dad used to thrash us to sleep wi' 'is belt!

Quoted from Ipswin

I can't think of any reason at all why Evatt would want to leave a club at the top of the Conference and possibly on the brink of a return to the football league after so many years (which would make him a legend forever in the town) and with a new go ahead consortium in charge to come to Grimsby Town possibly on the brink of swapping places with Barrow and run by a board who are totally clueless and lacking ambition.  

Quoted from Davec

on the GTFC hashtag on Twitter an ex football analyst who claims he is in the know thinks Chris Hargreaves will be appointed, he says he was at Northampton yesterday, also some random person twitter is suggesting Liam Rosenior could be the manager

Quoted from psgmariner

Liam Rosenior is an interesting shout.

With the Rooney rule we have to interview one BAME candidate and from what I’ve read online he seems to talk a good game at the very least so will impress if interviewed.0

Quoted from marinerdazza

How! will we attract Jack Hargreaves? I thought he was out of town?

Quoted from forza ivano

Thanks for the input Gashead. Very interesting insight.hargreaves does tick several boxes and fenty did talk up our propensity for giving someone a chance.wonder what his odds are

Quoted from psgmariner

Liam Rosenior is an interesting shout.

With the Rooney rule we have to interview one BAME candidate and from what I’ve read online he seems to talk a good game at the very least so will impress if interviewed.0

Quoted from psgmariner

Liam Rosenior is an interesting shout.

With the Rooney rule we have to interview one BAME candidate and from what I’ve read online he seems to talk a good game at the very least so will impress if interviewed.0

Quoted from sam gy

Message from my Notts County supporting mate, when I asked his opinion on Nolan and Kewell:

“I'd take Nolan. Ugly football but gets results. Got us to the playoffs, was a great season and have some great memories of when he was in charge. Kewell. Absolutely not. Clueless. intercourse off and get in the sea.”

Quoted from psgmariner

Liam Rosenior is an interesting shout.

With the Rooney rule we have to interview one BAME candidate and from what I’ve read online he seems to talk a good game at the very least so will impress if interviewed.0

Quoted from Civvy at last

Why do people keep bringing up the Jan transfer window ?
JF has said the cupboard is bare. So whoever comes here has to work with what we already have.
IMHO what we have is good enough for a mid(ish) table finish. So for me, that would be acceptable.
It’s a question of getting the best out of what we have. Then tweaking it for next season.  But I expect pretty much the same budget (or slightly less as the crowds tail off), so not expecting a great deal of change.

Quoted from psgmariner

This article suggests the Rooney Rule does apply in the EFL.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49330594

Joining Derby County's new coaching team, headed by three-time Dutch title-winning boss Phillip Cocu, was almost 15 years in the making for Liam Rosenior.

The move also came a month after the English Football League made it mandatory that clubs must interview at least one black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) candidate when searching for a new first-team manager.

The regulation, informally known as the 'Rooney Rule' - named after the NFL diversity committee chairman Dan Rooney who helped establish the policy in American football - is one that Rosenior has spoken at length about in the past.

PS I really hope the club have checked this!

Quoted from marinerdazza

The cycle is always the same. Calls to sack the manager start. Calls to sack the manager become louder, peppered with suggestions of managers who are currently free and who we should be going for. Manager sacked. Half the forum questions why the manager was sacked (not including Slade here). Lists of managers are posted, with everyone picking their favourite and many getting overexcited. We then remember we're a managerial graveyard and anyone decent is not going to risk coming here. Finally, acceptance that we're going to appoint someone cheap and nowhere near the top of anyone's list. Manager appointed. Calls to sack the manager start.

I hope I'm wrong. But I've seen little over the years to suggest otherwise.

Quoted from psgmariner

This article suggests the Rooney Rule does apply in the EFL.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49330594

Joining Derby County's new coaching team, headed by three-time Dutch title-winning boss Phillip Cocu, was almost 15 years in the making for Liam Rosenior.

The move also came a month after the English Football League made it mandatory that clubs must interview at least one black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) candidate when searching for a new first-team manager.

The regulation, informally known as the 'Rooney Rule' - named after the NFL diversity committee chairman Dan Rooney who helped establish the policy in American football - is one that Rosenior has spoken at length about in the past.

PS I really hope the club have checked this!

Quoted from mimma

What happens if we don't get an applicant? Do we have to drag someone off the street just to satisfy the criteria?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

So, did Tottenham infringe on these 'rights' when appointing mourinho?
How many applicants got interviewed.


The whole world has gone fu(king mad

Quoted from psgmariner

Spurs aren’t in the EFL. Doesn’t apply in the premier league which is lucky as they always seem to have the next on lined up when there’s a sacking.

Quoted from psgmariner

PS I really hope the club have checked this!

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't see why anyone has a problem with the Rooney Rule.

Say, for example, that 5 credible managers are interviewed for the Grimsby job, and they're all white males. Why would it hurt to interview a 6th who's BAME? It's one extra person; he wouldn't be 'replacing' anyone.

And no one is telling us that we have to hire the BAME candidate. We'll still hire the best candidate and the final decision rests with the club.

It's so easy for us white males (and females) who have never been victims of race hate crimes to sit here and moan about something like this. But, let's be honest, we don't know what it must be like to feel ignored and overlooked because of the colour of our skin, so who are we to judge?

I just fail to see why people have such a bee in their bonnet about this. I would also presume that a BAME applicant would probably be just as qualified as anyone else, so the idea that it's a token gesture and they're somehow weaker is missing the mark.

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't see why anyone has a problem with the Rooney Rule.

Say, for example, that 5 credible managers are interviewed for the Grimsby job, and they're all white males. Why would it hurt to interview a 6th who's BAME? It's one extra person; he wouldn't be 'replacing' anyone.

And no one is telling us that we have to hire the BAME candidate. We'll still hire the best candidate and the final decision rests with the club.

It's so easy for us white males (and females) who have never been victims of race hate crimes to sit here and moan about something like this. But, let's be honest, we don't know what it must be like to feel ignored and overlooked because of the colour of our skin, so who are we to judge?

I just fail to see why people have such a bee in their bonnet about this. I would also presume that a BAME applicant would probably be just as qualified as anyone else, so the idea that it's a token gesture and they're somehow weaker is missing the mark.

Quoted from mimma

Sol Campbell was never interviewed before Jolley. H
E stated that he would take any job to get into management. Fenty made a comment along the lines of "if he wants a job he first needs to apply for one" which people took as we wanted him here.

Quoted from 1098

Obviously there is also a rule that at every mobo awards there is a white artist in each category!!!!

Quoted from Rik e B

There's not that many nearly-qualified-enough BAME candidates going about though is there? I get the sentiment as more should definitely be encouraged but if time has to be spent interviewing a token applicant who miles off the criteria needed then that just a bit daft really, degrading for applicant to go through as well.

Wasn't Bignot BAME? So we've gone further than most clubs, I'm wondering if offering an interview to more suitably qualified BAME potential candidates (than tokens) even if they turn down offer could be seen as an acceptable attempt to equality abiding?

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't see why anyone has a problem with the Rooney Rule.

Say, for example, that 5 credible managers are interviewed for the Grimsby job, and they're all white males. Why would it hurt to interview a 6th who's BAME? It's one extra person; he wouldn't be 'replacing' anyone.

And no one is telling us that we have to hire the BAME candidate. We'll still hire the best candidate and the final decision rests with the club.

It's so easy for us white males (and females) who have never been victims of race hate crimes to sit here and moan about something like this. But, let's be honest, we don't know what it must be like to feel ignored and overlooked because of the colour of our skin, so who are we to judge?

I just fail to see why people have such a bee in their bonnet about this. I would also presume that a BAME applicant would probably be just as qualified as anyone else, so the idea that it's a token gesture and they're somehow weaker is missing the mark.

Quoted from golfer

We want Evatt -  We want Evatt -  We want Evatt

Quoted from Teestogreen

Well - some light relief - yes - I agree with Golfer. The manager who is performing best in a sphere below Town's level and (hopefully resources) is Ian Evatt - currently at Barrow FC. No brainer for going for him i.m.o.

UTM

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I do wonder what happens when we get to the reverse end of the positive discrimination. "He only got the job because he's BAME" is a big weight for anyone to carry.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Just looked at Skybet - Pete Wild (Halifax) is now 4-1 from 9-1.

Quoted from forza ivano

That's coz i was feeling flush and put another 25p on him 8) 8)

Quoted from chaos33

It’s ok people promoting Pete Wild and Ian Evatt, but if you look into their careers they’ve got practically no managerial experience between them, especially at EFL level. They might have worked in EFL academies or been short term caretaker but that’s about it. I can’t see much to commend them on that basis and can’t find what level of coaching qualifications they have. They seem to be favoured almost entirely on the basis that the teams they manage in the conference are currently going well, and that’s it. Is that really more of a case than the bloke who emails the telewag and says ‘Craig Disley and Ben Davies for me’. It’s not based on a balanced view of key aspects.

Quoted from chrissy

Doubt he would leave their for a 6 month rolling contract.

Quoted from chaos33

‘Craig Disley and Ben Davies for me’.  

Quoted from chaos33

It’s ok people promoting Pete Wild and Ian Evatt, but if you look into their careers they’ve got practically no managerial experience between them, especially at EFL level. They might have worked in EFL academies or been short term caretaker but that’s about it. I can’t see much to commend them on that basis and can’t find what level of coaching qualifications they have. They seem to be favoured almost entirely on the basis that the teams they manage in the conference are currently going well, and that’s it. Is that really more of a case than the bloke who emails the telewag and says ‘Craig Disley and Ben Davies for me’. It’s not based on a balanced view of key aspects.

Quoted from Teestogreen

In this case - don't agree. The experienced managers available at this level are the losers.

Quoted from mariner91

I disagree. What manager who has done well in the EFL would want to come here? The ones who are available and within our reach are the ones who aren't very good. Wild hasn't got much managing experience so I would be wary of that one. But Evatt is in his second season and is leading the league below us with a team playing good football whilst working on a shoestring budget. He's had a good career as a player at higher levels so would presumably have some contacts in the EFL but also would know who to look for from non-league, an avenue Jolley neglected. He would be my choice but I doubt he'd come..

Quoted from chaos33

Wow, a few months into his second season of management at a lower level.

Quoted from mariner91

A lower level perhaps but the teams in the play off positions in non-league tend to be about the same standard as the lower half of L2. I certainly doubt we'd be at the top if we were playing at that level with this team.

Again, who is available, within our each, has more experience and has been successful elsewhere in the EFL? The only one who has done anything that we would maybe have an outside sniff at would be Paul Tisdale but I would be amazed if he came here. We are not an attractive proposition.

Quoted from Ipswin

The inexperienced one we took a chance on turned out to be a loser too

Quoted from chaos33

Wow, a few months into his second season of management at a lower level.

Quoted from dicko995

I give up on all the throw abouts, lets just make history before we fold, and employ a woman manager, at least the toilets will smell fresh, and I bet she wont have her bra searched at Stevenage :)

Quoted from chaos33

It’s ok people promoting Pete Wild and Ian Evatt, but if you look into their careers they’ve got practically no managerial experience between them, especially at EFL level. They might have worked in EFL academies or been short term caretaker but that’s about it. I can’t see much to commend them on that basis and can’t find what level of coaching qualifications they have. They seem to be favoured almost entirely on the basis that the teams they manage in the conference are currently going well, and that’s it. Is that really more of a case than the bloke who emails the telewag and says ‘Craig Disley and Ben Davies for me’. It’s not based on a balanced view of key aspects.

Quoted from chaos33

Keep talking us down mate and set those sights low then.
We are a big club in L2 with strong support and we need to be ambitious and confident. It is only November and the teams doing well in the conference have achieved nothing yet. Evatt and Wild may show promise but they are undercooked and represent something of a (cheap) gamble. I know all appointments are risky but I’d rather we were more diligent, looked at ticks in more boxes across the range and pushed the boat out for quality. Why shouldn’t Tisdale or Heckinbottom come here? Do we have less L2 or even L1 potential than Exeter?! Blimey - Wycombe are top of L1! We should take note and look for an appointment who is also striving to take us upwards, not someone who’s chuffed to get the chance to manage at this level whilst they learn their trade.

Quoted from mariner91

Six month rolling contracts but presumably having to relocate to an area of the country that isn't particularly desirable (I love Lincolnshire, I think it's great, but it's not viewed that way by outsiders) or having to spend large amounts of time away from your family.

The chairman has already said it will have to be one out before we can get one in. We have had little to no investment for virtually two decades and have managed a single top half finish in the EFL since the turn of the century. The playing budget isn't the worst in the league but it's not the best by a long shot and when you're out on a limb geographically that probably plays a bit in missing out on lots of decent players. People talk, they will know that the club is run horrendously by the current board.

Our training ground is a joke but it does have some luxury portakabins. Our stadium is crumbling and there is still no sign that we will change grounds any time soon.

Our history with managers is pretty damning too. Fail here and you are unlikely to ever work again in the FL as a manager. And the odds of you succeeding here are stacked against you.

We have a decent fanbase for L2 but with the current board there is little, if any, potential. Given all the factors above, why would a manager who has had success in the FL potentially risk their career by accepting the job? I'm sure some might if we offered them enough money but when it's the choice between Fenty taking out another £200K from the budget to repay himself or paying enough for a proven manager then realistically which scenario do you think is most likely to play out?

Quoted from chaos33

Wow, a few months into his second season of management at a lower level.

Quoted from Poojah

I hear you (and generally agree with you) but that’s always going to be the risk if you want to go down the route of a currently successful, up and coming manager. To all intents and purposes that described Bignot when we appointed him, but that’s where due diligence comes in (which we clearly failed to do on that occasion).

The Cowley’s had little experience at what you might consider an EFL sized club prior to joining Lincoln, and it didn’t do them any harm.

On Evatt in particular, when he took over at Barrow they had just stayed up in the Conference by a single position and point. Last season they finished tenth. This season, they’re currently top and playing expansive, passing football to boot.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I’m good mates with the brother of Barrow’s young back-up keeper Johnny Saltmer, and often chat with him about how he’s getting on. Apparently, he rates Evatt as the best man manager he’s ever worked for and he’s previously been a part of the Hull first-team squad under the likes of Marco Silva and Leonid Slutsky.

Tactically he reckons he’s superb too. Funnily enough, the lad trained with Town for a few months last season and said that whilst Jolley was a good guy, he was trying to be way too clever and asking too much of League Two players in terms of systems etc.

Whichever option we take it’s a risk - I just hope that it’s a well calculated one.

Quoted from Poojah

On Evatt in particular, when he took over at Barrow they had just stayed up in the Conference by a single position and point. Last season they finished tenth. This season, they’re currently top and playing expansive, passing football to boot.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I’m good mates with the brother of Barrow’s young back-up keeper Johnny Saltmer, and often chat with him about how he’s getting on. Apparently, he rates Evatt as the best man manager he’s ever worked

Tactically he reckons he’s superb too.  

Quoted from TAGG

I don’t care anymore.
We could get the worlds best manager in and it would make no difference because our dysfunctional club would intercourse em up in 12 months and they would end up like the rest of the cannon fodder.

Quoted Text

After Michael Jolley’s exit by mutual consent over a week ago, Grimsby Town are still looking for a new manager.

We profile five possible candidates in the next Grimsby manager market.

Kevin Nolan
Why he should get the job

Kevin Nolan did a reasonable job at Notts County.

He kept the Magpies up in 2016-17, then led them to a top seven finish the following season, before being dismissed after just five games of the following campaign.

The former midfielder, famed for his ability to get on the end of Andy Carroll’s knock-downs in his playing days, loves at target man.

While at Meadow Lane, he tended to play to the strengths of Jonathan Stead and Shola Ameobi, so he would look to build this Grimsby team around James Hanson.

Why he might not

Nolan always wants to let out his emotions in full.

He will shout at officials if they get a decision wrong, he will give his players big hugs and at times treat them like friends.

That tends to work in the early stages of his managerial regimes, but there sometimes comes a point at which he needs to keep a distance from his players

Verdict

The fact BetVictor are content to offer 6/4 quotes on Nolan, and odds no shorter than 8/1 on anyone else, suggests the rumours may have substance.

Robbie Stockdale
Why he should get the job

If there is one reason to be excited as a Grimsby Town fan right now, it is the thriving academy.

Neil Woods has done an outstanding job with the youth and in the last couple of seasons, we have seen Ahkeem Rose, Harry Clifton, Max Wright, Mattie Pollock and Ollie Battersby all become respected components of the first team squad.

There is another very promising cluster of talent coming next on the conveyor belt, too.

We do not know what the club’s future is at boardroom level and Grimsby are highly unlikely to get relegated, so it makes sense to make the next appointment primarily about youth development.

Robbie Stockdale is a well-regarded figure at Blundell Park, he loves nurturing young players and he has worked with Neil Woods before; he also has experience of managing in the Premier League and Championship with Sunderland, albeit on a caretaker basis.

Why he might not

Has not managed a team on a permanent basis before.

Verdict

An intriguing punt at 14/1 with WilliamHill – could be the perfect fit.

Anthony Limbrick
Why he should get the job

Anthony Limbrick has been a respected coach at Grimsby.

He also knows the existing squad and will thus already have an inkling as to how to get the best out of the group, which may mean the club will not have to spend so much in January and next summer.

Why he might not

Limbrick’s only experience as a permanent, senior manager came at Woking, with whom he oversaw relegation from the National League in 2017-18.

That is not to say that the coach might not have learnt from his time there, but Grimsby is a bigger job so one wonders whether he has done enough to prove himself.

Plus, the two performances in Limbrick’s spell in interim charge do not suggest he can quickly remedy the team’s recent problems.

Verdict

There may be better options elsewhere.

Pete Wild
Why he should get the job

Pete Wild is proving a managerial gem.

Plucked from Under-16s coaching when Frankie Bunn was dismissed at Oldham, Wild oversaw a return of 10 points from six games, then another spell of 14 from nine after Paul Scholes’ short stint.

He also led the Latics to a shock 2-1 FA Cup win at Fulham – not knowing he’d take charge of the team that day, Wild had pre-booked to go to that very match in the away end!

It is easy to presume that Wild’s results at Oldham were down to his affiliation with the club, yet he is also doing a fabulous job at Halifax Town, who are fourth in the National League with one of the lowest budgets.

Why he might not

Wild has always been based in Royton, a town in the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham.

The jobs he has had have been at Boundary Park, a 25-minute walk from the centre of Royton and The Shay, a 40-minute drive away.

Grimsby, by contrast, would be a two-hour drive away so Wild would either need to commit to a lengthy commute or re-locate to Cleethorpes.

Verdict

Would be a fantastic appointment at 6/1 with PaddyPower – but only if the logistics work.

Simon Weaver
Why he should get the job

Simon Weaver has overseen eight years of consistent progress at Harrogate Town.

The Sulphurites finished bottom of the National League North in 2009-10, the former defender’s first season as Player-Manager, but they were reprieved due to Northwich Victoria’s demotion.

Harrogate’s problems were down to the difficulties Bill Fotherby had in funding the club, but once the chairman handed the keys to Irving Weaver, Simon’s father, results changed instantly.

The club continually progressed under the Weavers, enjoying a historic FA Cup run in 2012-13 then turning professional in 2017, the summer before they won promotion to the fifth-tier, followed by a Play-Off finish last season.

Weaver likes attacking, purposeful play; his current side plays to a target man in John Beck, but then likes willing runners like Brendan Kiernan, Jack Muldoon and Jack Diamond to feed off him; that template could work well with Grimsby’s current group.

Why he might not

Most of the best-performing sides in League Two have been able to make high-profile additions.

Exeter have added Nickys Law and Ajose under Matt Taylor, Richie Wellens has attracted high-profile performers to Swindon plus Keith Curle’s Northampton have lured Alan McCormack and Nicky Adams.

Additionally, Bradford have a former Championship boss in Gary Bowyer, Cheltenham’s Michael Duff has an excellent knowledge of the Under-23s scene while Ryan Lowe has brought much of the promotion-winning Bury side to Plymouth Argyle.

Because Weaver has spent his entire post-playing career in non-league, there is a danger that he might not possess the contacts required to improve this Grimsby squad in the transfer window.

Verdict

Weaver clearly has a lot of qualities as a manager, but his contractual situation has not been disclosed by his employers. If significant compensation is required, Grimsby are likely to look elsewhere.

Quoted from Rik e B

I'm sure I heard Warnock saying on talksport preseason he would get Cardiff started and then move aside as he looking to retire, spend time with the wife, hobbies etc.

Quoted from SheepGTFC

i'd quite happily take some 60 year old been there seen it done it manager to keep us in the league.

number 1 priority for me is to never have to think about non-league in my life again.

having all these inexperienced managers touted is less than inspiring to me.

we need someone that has league experience and has experience working with clubs on a smaller budget.

Quoted from Abdul19

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Quoted from Northbank Mariner

FFS Abdul...if my blood pressure isn't already through the roof!!..nearly passed out there!!!

Quoted from Will Haddock

Pete Wild now odds on favourite apparently.

https://www.thesackrace.com/teams/grimsby-town

Does that mean that someone saw him in Steels, or is it more bookie bullsh!t in the absence of any information from the club?

Quoted from forza ivano

Am praying he is appointed, but only coz I've got a few quid on him at 20-1😁🍾

Quoted from Will Haddock

Pete Wild now odds on favourite apparently.

Quoted from marinerdazza

Has anyone actually looked at Pete Wild's CV? And Halifax's recent form? He's been there 4 months ffs.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Yes indeed, that bloke from Woking would be just as good, he did OK for a season or so down there so people say. ;)

The only thing about Wild I suppose is his time as Oldham caretaker/manager which he did pretty well .......  though by his own admission he felt it was temporary. That's why Evatt is maybe a better option in terms of team building experience. But he might cost money ........ heaven forbid!

Quoted from Will Haddock

Pete Wild now odds on favourite apparently.

https://www.thesackrace.com/teams/grimsby-town

Does that mean that someone saw him in Steels, or is it more bookie bullsh!t in the absence of any information from the club?

Quoted from marinerjase

Suspect there probably is something in the Halifax manager rumour - and if it is him so be it. Can’t say it’s one that’ll get fans flocking back but beggars can’t be choosers.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

God hope its not this chap from halifax, so underwhelming and their recent form is terrible.

Cheap and easy so probably be him.

Quoted from sam gy

Matt Dean confirmed Danny Wilson has applied. Gets the seal of approval from Buckley on RH.

Quoted from sam gy

Matt Dean confirmed Danny Wilson has applied. Gets the seal of approval from Buckley on RH.

Quoted from Garth

Until things really start going South in a big way, stick with what we have, and give the guy a chance, since he has taken charge things have looked up, any other candidate would be a gamble IMO.
What we need is fast raiding wingers, not a managerial change

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I think the attendance last night will sway the board to get a new manager.

Limbrick does not set the pulses racing, and incremental improvements under him will not attract enough fans. He has improved the team, no doubt about it, but I think any of us could have made the simple improvements of keeping a more settled team and start passing the ball.

All this assumes we get a manager in that we can rally round.    

Quoted from ginnywings

Like Newell?  ;D

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Getting a new manager in is highly unlikely to instantly add a couple of thousand on the gate !

Quoted from grimsby pete

We have already got an experienced man to help AL  ,

Sir  Alan  Buckley bring him in to help.

Quoted from psgmariner

I didn’t.

Played 3, drawn 1 and lost the others with not single goal scored. All a bit Neil Woodsy for me.

January could be the month that decides if we stay up. I don’t think limbrick is the man to recruit the players we need. He must’ve played a big role in the recruitment over the summer and that’s not gone well.

Quoted from grimsby pete

We looked better  last night under AL ,

BUT

There is no guarantee that a new man whoever he is or whatever he has done in the past could do any better.

I would give AL more time to turn things round any manager wanting our job will be keeping one eye on what we are doing and the other on who he can bring in,
Not forgetting we have a one in onehttps://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?v-post/b-dr/m-1574537243/q-196/# out policy.

Quoted from Bigdog

Simple choice really. Give the job to Limbrick and Davies until the end of the season or get a new manager in now to have 11 days to get his methods into a starting eleven against Swindon and five weeks to assess the squad before the transfer window. Anything in between will be a compromised fudge.

The performance last night was an adequate League Two performance nothing more, but it was a damn sight better than the past couple of months. We're not privy to the list of applicants, so it's hard to judge whether there are options out there better than AL and BD. If there is a prospective manager that stands out, then my gut tells me the board should act now. We need a complete breath of fresh air in my opinion. If there isn't, I'm not averse to giving AL a proper go at it. But we can't waste precious time sitting on the fence. There were improvements last night, but the DNA of how we played hasn't changed much. Whether that's down to AJ's philosophy or the players confidence levels, who knows..

Quoted from Garth

Why not think outside of the box when choosing the next manager, like someone who has learnt his trade via banking in the city
Just a thought!

Quoted from forza ivano

can't fault your logic Bigdog

loathe that i am to disagree with PSG i think Limbrick has an awful lot more going for him than Woods. I think we've all seen that there has been some improvement (and these have been against good div 2 teams)and he has only been in charge for 10-11 days! he's also got much better players at his disposal than Woods, and a bit more experience thanWoods had at that time

Quoted from Fishy clapper

Dean Windass being linked to the job again, probably in with a decent chance this time after proving himself whilst managing East Hull.

Quoted from Fishy clapper

Dean Windass being linked to the job again, probably in with a decent chance this time after proving himself whilst managing East Hull.

Quoted from ska face

Jolley would still be manager today if he hadn’t been caught out having a dig at Fenty’s budget. 100%.

Quoted from Fishy clapper

Dean Windass being linked to the job again, probably in with a decent chance this time after proving himself whilst managing East Hull.

Quoted from Stadium

??
Link please.
Or have you gone back to 2009?

Quoted from smokey111

It may be sacrosanct to some fishy posters but involving AB in formal a consultative role may undermine AL. Listening to Buckley on the radio I doubt whether he would be one to compromise his principles for anyone. If AL wants to play the same style then great, otherwise the odd phone call or chat may be a better option.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Limbrick was the assistant manager for a manager who ultimately failed. He has to take part of the blame for the situation we continue to find ourselves in.

Quoted from ska face

Jolley would still be manager today if he hadn’t been caught out having a dig at Fenty’s budget. 100%.

Quoted from smokey111

Whilst I agree Rik, not sure of many assistants who have replaced their previous boss and gone on to be successful. Get ready for a deluge of examples!!!!!!

Quoted from Rik e B

And I was of that opinion that we needed a clean sweep with entirely fresh management in, especially after Newport when it appeared the players associated him with the Jolley regime it was was rumoured they unhappy with.

And it easy to cite numerous sources of the assistant not stepping up to the plate, or a cheap option from within ultimately failing at GTFC.

However, he has managed before, doing well before his hands were tied and best player's at Woking sold from under his feet, he speaks well and sensical and it now looks like we have a plan with the player's playing for him.

So I don't know if he the answer or if there a better option out there, but if there isn't I'm pretty sure he can steady the ship. Perhaps a long-term interim role till end of season, or a three month rolling contract or something? Ben Davies by his side is a positive thing too.

We got a tough tough run of games so it's a baptism of fire for him, the results, LLD on paper don't look good but performance wise it looks like he steadying the ship and getting us organised and we not a total in disarray shambles anymore.

Quoted from smokey111

It may be sacrosanct to some fishy posters but involving AB in formal a consultative role may undermine AL. Listening to Buckley on the radio I doubt whether he would be one to compromise his principles for anyone. If AL wants to play the same style then great, otherwise the odd phone call or chat may be a better option.

Quoted from smokey111

I actually agree Rik. Hearing from Limbrick and watching the last two games he certainly deserves 10-12 games, providing performances and hopefully results stay on an upward curve.

Quoted from sam gy

Matt Dean confirmed Danny Wilson has applied. Gets the seal of approval from Buckley on RH.

Quoted from grimsby pete

A few points to add from others comments ,

AL is already on a 6 month rolling contract so Fenty can take as much time as he thinks fit before either giving him the job or giving it to someone else.

On bringing in 3 or 4 new faces come Jan don't forget Fenty said one in one out.

Who are the 3 or 4 to go out ?

Quoted from smokey111

Whilst I agree Rik, not sure of many assistants who have replaced their previous boss and gone on to be successful. Get ready for a deluge of examples!!!!!!

Quoted from grimsby pete

A few points to add from others comments ,

AL is already on a 6 month rolling contract so Fenty can take as much time as he thinks fit before either giving him the job or giving it to someone else.

On bringing in 3 or 4 new faces come Jan don't forget Fenty said one in one out.

Who are the 3 or 4 to go out ?

Quoted from grimsby pete

A few points to add from others comments ,

AL is already on a 6 month rolling contract so Fenty can take as much time as he thinks fit before either giving him the job or giving it to someone else.

On bringing in 3 or 4 new faces come Jan don't forget Fenty said one in one out.

Who are the 3 or 4 to go out ?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Cardwell, Rose, Cook and Ring for me, assuming we get better replacements.

Quoted from Ipswin

I'd certainly go for 3 of those (and permanent departures not just loans) Cook I would retain

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Cardwell, Rose, Cook and Ring for me, assuming we get better replacements.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Cardwell, Rose, Cook and Ring for me, assuming we get better replacements.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Hard to argue with any of those in all honesty. If we are being brutally honest And if we are seriously talking about replacing current players with better quality you could add Whitehouse, Green plus possibly Vernam (unless his month in Chorley means he can contribute for more than a 20 minute cameo). In reality we are once again looking at half a team but if we want to progress that’s what is needed a IMO.

Quoted from chaos33

Understandable given his lack of game time. Scored again though. Against the leaders.,

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Mourinho is probably the only example I can think of so I think you are pretty much on point

Quoted from Rik e B

My memory not all that on this but didn't Chris Hughton have success coming from a lower role within.

Though admittedly examples are rare. But we in the strange position that upon appointment our assistant more English football experience than main man.

As for the players out thing, we always say need to get rid of a bunch but in reality shifting underwhelming performers tends to prove difficult with one or two out usually at best.

Quoted from moosey_club

There was a snippet on the radio earlier re JF saying that there has definately been an improvement under AL and he has earnt an extended run, interviews have not been scheduled as yet anyway and the supporters seem to be behind  AL so ...... seems like its his to lose.

i think in between the lines i read "cheapest and simplest option"  

Quoted from smokey111

Whilst I agree Rik, not sure of many assistants who have replaced their previous boss and gone on to be successful. Get ready for a deluge of examples!!!!!!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Interviews have not been scheduled yet...

That tells you all you need to know.

18th in the league with a terrible recent run; can't score goals, last gate under 2500 home fans yet absolutely no urgency to talk to potential managers.

Jolley was having a terrible time before he left - surely contingency plans were underway to seek a replacement?

Fenty is having a laugh at our expense.

Quoted from pen penfras

I thought that talking to other candidates before firing the previous one is classed as constructive dismissal and would potentially put us at risk of legal action. I know it goes on all the time, but doesn't make it right...

Quoted from pen penfras

I thought that talking to other candidates before firing the previous one is classed as constructive dismissal and would potentially put us at risk of legal action. I know it goes on all the time, but doesn't make it right...

Quoted from pen penfras

I thought that talking to other candidates before firing the previous one is classed as constructive dismissal and would potentially put us at risk of legal action. I know it goes on all the time, but doesn't make it right...

Quoted from MuddyWaters

It's two weeks tomorrow since Jolley went, we've scored one goal at home since August, haven't won a game since September and are playing the league leaders next - it might not bother you that GTFC looks like a rudderless ship (from the very top downwards), but it does me.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Yes, whilst I agree with what you say, the one thing I would add is that those games were under Jolley who after a great start completely lost the plot and managed to knack it up...
Given that in 3 games under limbrick there's been a complete change in the way we've played, the chances created and the desire to fight to the end, plus a definite game plan and a formation you can actually see I personally think he's shown he's a worth giving a chance at getting us firing again.
It does seem to be the cheap option but could also turn out to be a master stroke....who knows??..

Quoted from Ipswin

John Fenty sounded quite supportive and almost enthusiastic about Limbrick during his speech at todays AGM I thought

Quoted from promotion plaice

I wonder if Jolley will apply for the Arsenal job !!!   8)

Quoted from moosey_club

There was a snippet on the radio earlier re JF saying that there has definately been an improvement under AL and he has earnt an extended run, interviews have not been scheduled as yet anyway and the supporters seem to be behind  AL so ...... seems like its his to lose.

i think in between the lines i read "cheapest and simplest option"  

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Yes, whilst I agree with what you say, the one thing I would add is that those games were under Jolley who after a great start completely lost the plot and managed to knack it up...
Given that in 3 games under limbrick there's been a complete change in the way we've played, the chances created and the desire to fight to the end, plus a definite game plan and a formation you can actually see I personally think he's shown he's a worth giving a chance at getting us firing again.
It does seem to be the cheap option but could also turn out to be a master stroke....who knows??..

Quoted from Brazilnut

very dangerous this ........performances improved initially under woods and look where that got us  

Quoted from arryarryarry

Did they?

Were you in a coma at that time?

Neil Woods was appointed caretaker manager on the 18th October 2009. Whilst caretaker his first 4 games resulted in 3 defeats and 1 draw including being dumped out of the FA Cup by non league Bath City. We then drew the next 2 games.

He was appointed full first team manager on the 23rd November 2009. His first full game resulted in us being spanked 0-3 at home to Bradford City.

His first win didn't come until the 6th March 2010.

The worst decision in the history of this fine club made by a Board of Grimsby Town Football Club and all those who were involved in that decision should hang their heads in shame for evermore.

Quoted from 123614

Regardless of that, his record is 1 point from a possible 9, not good enough for me.

Quoted from 123614

Regardless of that, his record is 1 point from a possible 9, not good enough for me.

Quoted from 123614

Regardless of that, his record is 1 point from a possible 9, not good enough for me.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Did they?

Were you in a coma at that time?

Neil Woods was appointed caretaker manager on the 18th October 2009. Whilst caretaker his first 4 games resulted in 3 defeats and 1 draw (2-2 at home to Accrington) including being dumped out of the FA Cup at home by non league Bath City. We then drew the next 2 games.

He was appointed full first team manager on the 23rd November 2009. His first full game resulted in us being spanked 0-3 at home to Bradford City.

His first win didn't come until the 6th March 2010.

The worst decision in the history of this fine club made by a Board of Grimsby Town Football Club and all those who were involved in that decision should hang their heads in shame for evermore.

Quoted from rancido

Wasn't Mike Parker one of those on the Board who wanted Woods?

Quoted from smokey111

We won't go down and we won't make the play offs, so why not let Limbrick have an extended run to instill his methods. He may be young but has managerial experience. Let him try to move out the players he doesn't fancy and integrate 2/3 more. 13th or 19th it doesn't really matter as long as we see a system of play, motivated players and a few goals. The thing that frustrated me most about MJ was that I still don't understand how we were set up to play.

Quoted from smokey111

We won't go down and we won't make the play offs, so why not let Limbrick have an extended run to instill his methods. He may be young but has managerial experience. Let him try to move out the players he doesn't fancy and integrate 2/3 more. 13th or 19th it doesn't really matter as long as we see a system of play, motivated players and a few goals. The thing that frustrated me most about MJ was that I still don't understand how we were set up to play.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Did they?

Were you in a coma at that time?

Neil Woods was appointed caretaker manager on the 18th October 2009. Whilst caretaker his first 4 games resulted in 3 defeats and 1 draw (2-2 at home to Accrington) including being dumped out of the FA Cup at home by non league Bath City. We then drew the next 2 games.

He was appointed full first team manager on the 23rd November 2009. His first full game resulted in us being spanked 0-3 at home to Bradford City.

His first win didn't come until the 6th March 2010.

The worst decision in the history of this fine club made by a Board of Grimsby Town Football Club and all those who were involved in that decision should hang their heads in shame for evermore.

Quoted from RichMariner

I've never been a professional footballer but I'd imagine that when a totally new manager walks through the door you raise your game to impress them because they might not know your strengths.

Limbrick already knows our players well, so it's perhaps why we haven't got that 'new manager bounce' that sometimes comes with a new appointment.

Having said that, it's balanced out by his knowledge of the players, so he already knows their limits and capabilities and can make quick decisions on what to do for the next match.

It's a tough situation for him. He's had three really tough fixtures to begin with, and the fourth doesn't look any easier!

The fact that we haven't scored in those three games bothers me and everyone else, and I'm sure it'll bother AL and the team. But we have seen a gradual improvement (I think we can all agree on that).

The problem with not scoring or winning any of those three games is that it puts pressure on the next, and if we just happen to have an off day then immediately the fans become impatient at four winless games.

Quoted from Brazilnut

Yes they did ....the performances picked up!! ...we actually looked interested and there was some semblance of style  ....the results never that i grant you but it was  probably because the performances picked up was why he was given 25 games to get a win.......which is why i mentioned it today we cant go down the same road now

Quoted from Brazilnut

Yes they did ....the performances picked up!! ...we actually looked interested  and there was some semblance of style  ....the results never that i grant you but it was  probably because the performances picked up was why he was given 25 games to get a win.......which is why i mentioned it today we cant go down the same road now

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Exactly, RRFC.  Poor results and performances can easily be rationalised and accepted.  This does not help to make the improvements needed.

David still managed to flatten Goliath, and he probably had a bigger budget.  😁

Quoted from promotion plaice

I wonder if Jolley will apply for the Arsenal job !!!   8)

Quoted from OllieGTFC

We have been taken off skybet, do we have a manager ?

Quoted from OllieGTFC

We have been taken off skybet, do we have a manager ?

Quoted from Stadium

PW still the favourite haha.

https://www.thesackrace.com/teams/grimsby-town

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

So you're telling me you expected someone to come in, be given 48 hours with the players and go and smash, Newport, Northampton and Cheltenham for 9 points ..??  Think you need to wake up and smell the coffee bud, we couldn't afford pep I'm afraid ..

Quoted from golfer

If we don't win the next match he's gone. I think for the next few matches he'll be on "a 1 match rolling contract "

Quoted from golfer

he has had 2 years with this lot-he would have played a part in signing this shower. Wasn't Limbrick brought in because he supposedly had the "English " experience with his knowledge of the players at this level which M.J. understandably did not. Where we are now - surely he has to take some of the blame

Quoted from grimsby pete

Lets stop tarring AL with same brush as MJ,

As an assistant if you keep telling your boss things he does not want to hear you will not keep your job very long.

Quoted from golfer

he has had 2 years with this lot-he would have played a part in signing this shower. Wasn't Limbrick brought in because he supposedly had the "English " experience with his knowledge of the players at this level which M.J. understandably did not. Where we are now - surely he has to take some of the blame

Quoted from golfer

he has had 2 years with this lot-he would have played a part in signing this shower. Wasn't Limbrick brought in because he supposedly had the "English " experience with his knowledge of the players at this level which M.J. understandably did not. Where we are now - surely he has to take some of the blame

Quoted from 137

If you want to be a convincing blame-monger then I suggest you stand back a bit and look up.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

So you're telling me you expected someone to come in, be given 48 hours with the players and go and smash, Newport, Northampton and Cheltenham for 9 points ..??  Think you need to wake up and smell the coffee bud, we couldn't afford pep I'm afraid ..

Quoted from 123614

But he hasn't only had 48 hours with the players, he was MJ's Assistant, remember!  He was part of a failed team, and as such shouldn't be put in full charge of GTFC, but of course, it's the cheap option, YET AGAIN, and that will suit Fenty down to the ground.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

He just flipped

Quoted from Rik e B

I'm warming to AL, I've seen a game by game improvement in performance and like the noises made about sticking to a game plan, formation and ethos.

The lowest league crowd in a generation more the fault of his predecessor and the lack of vision or ambition from above so I wouldn't pin that at his door but I agree it smacks of incompetence to not at least dip our toes in the water and see what's out there. At least do an initial round of interviews to compare what people have to say with what we have in house with AL. Even if the overriding idea is we more than likely going to give AL a decent run of fixtures.

It doesn't cost anything to invite people in and conduct interviews surely?

All I can think is the applicants thus far really do not whet the appetite or stand out as anything above and beyond what we already got. And that any that would require compensation to prise away from their present clubs are either too pricey or not interested... or Mr. Fenty and the board have zero appetite for negatively denting the books if at all possible.

Maybe it would upset prospective candidates having their time wasted and theyd say boll**s to ya if called them back further down the line?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

On the other hand if we get whopped are we still going to hear all the "give him a chance" stuff again?

Quoted from grimsby pete

The list of managers on the list will not guarantee success so sticking with what we have got for a few more games can only be a wise move.

If  A L proves he can not do it by the New year then give someone else a chance.

Quoted from 123614

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Seriously??  If he can't cut it by New Year then we could be in serious trouble by then.  There are 5 matches this month and none of them are going to be easy.

Quoted from grimsby pete

So we lose Saturday bring in new manager Monday and he does not win by the new year,

What do we do then ?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

But football is a decision and results business. Clubs can’t afford too much patience. It’s like a manager saying he’s going to play the same team regardless of results for the next  X games because they all agree with every word he says.

For me, Limbrick says all the right things but so did the last manager when he came -  pressing game, get the ball in the box .......... He was the Messiah. So did Bignot when he came - get wingers down the line and crossing the ball he said ......... he was another Messiah. Now it’s Limbrick, must play a passing game and be like Buckley ....... the new Messiah?

Talk is cheap, it’s results what counts.



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I agree but you have to give any new man a certain amount of games,

We are not in the position to appoint a outstanding manager so I think its only fair that AL is given until after Christmas to prove he can get the results if he can't then fair enough appoint someone else

As we all know even then the new man can not guarantee getting results anytime soon.

Quoted from OllieGTFC

Last time the assistance nearly got the job we was nearly relegated we will go the same way, next time we go to non league we won’t be coming back

Quoted from grimsby pete

So we lose Saturday bring in new manager Monday and he does not win by the new year,

What do we do then ?

Quoted from Mayaman

The bookies have got AL as odd son favourite for the job.  Hold your horses.  We need to see a couple of results first.  The football's prettier that's for sure but we need results even if hard grafted for.  On the flip side some fans want a new manager but it's gonna be a bit of time before they settle in.  Has anyone done any research on longevity of Grimsby fans compared to other clubs? Not sure my ticker can take much more.

Quoted from marinerdazza

If you're talking about Wilkinson, there was absolutely no difference to his predecessor or improvement during his spell.

Newport aside, that doesn't appear to be the case now.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Found this transcript on the Swindon fans forum for all those that never got to hear it.

Enjoy ;D

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Michael Jolley: David Burns, Matt Dean, Gwilym (Lloyd) – you haven’t the flipping balls to ask a straight question.

You’re a flipping disgrace as a collective. Outrageous. The flipping negativity around this football club. It’s a flipping disgrace. An absolute disgrace.

Matt Dean: Why are you raising this now?

Michael Jolley: I have been waiting for an opportune moment when I’ve had you in the room.

You lot are a flipping disgrace. You’re antagonistic, confrontational – flipping Jeremy Paxman. You flipping are an absolute flipping disgrace of a journalist.

Do your flipping research. flipping ask a straight question…you try your best? You are antagonistic, flipping patronising, arrogant you are a flipping disgrace of a journalist.

The flipping radio station gives us no flipping positive coverage whatsoever.

flipping you and flipping Gwilym criticising playing man-for-man at Chelsea.

I go on the flipping Monday night show with Rob (Statton) because he is a flipping professional journalist and a flipping straight shooter and you don’t flipping ask me a question. And then I go off you say ‘yeah it was the wrong decision to play man for man’ – flipping ask me then.

Ask the flipping manager. You’ve got no balderdash. You’ve got no flipping balderdash.

You’re snide, behind people’s flipping backs. Every flipping manager of this football club has had a problem with you. Every manager. Has had a flipping problem. Every single manager has had a problem with you.

I’ve flipping spoke to them all. Trust me. About you. As an individual.

And flipping Burns is an absolute flipping disgrace as well. A flipping disgrace.

Ask me some flipping decent questions. Your flipping confrontational. Jeremy flipping Paxman.

I’ve said to you, ask me any question you want. You’re flipping excrement at it, you should do your flipping research.

You put a negative spin on everything. You’ve never ever given us any flipping credit.

How did Chesterfield get on today? How did Barnet get on today? That’s who we could be competing with. You could be going to flipping Braintree. And flipping Borehamwood, you people. Have you flipping spoken about that?

After a short, partially-audible exchange with John Tondeur, Jolley continues: Have you seen our flipping budget. Have you seen our budget. Do you know where we flipping should be? Do you know where we flipping should be?

Have you said that on the radio? Or have you just said ‘you’re not doing very well’. All the flipping negative things you ask all the time. Your style is so antagonistic.

Come on Matt. You know yourself, you try to catch people out. You might get a bit more respect if you tried to build a relationship. Rob’s coverage is reasonable and balanced. Your coverage isn’t balanced.

You must be flipping buzzing – ‘4-0 Grimsby lose at home, flipping brilliant, this is exactly what we flipping want’. You must be flipping delighted. It’s actually flipping true.

Quoted from pizzzza

Someone should definitely fix the Jolley recording with beeps over the "fuckings". Would be like Mike Bassett  ;D

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Quoted from GollyGTFC

We need the new manager in ASAP. Probably too late for Tuesday night, but after Cheltenham there is 11 days until next match. Perfect chance to appoint a new manager maybe Wednesday or Thursday next week and give them a week to work with what they’ve inherited.

Quoted from BackHeelTony

Cameron Toshack now 6-1 for the job

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

He left Swansea this morning to face a fresh new challenge?

Quoted from BackHeelTony

Cameron Toshack now 6-1 for the job

Quoted from GollyGTFC

No chance whatsoever. He made 5 professional appearances as a player for Cardiff City (2 starts & 3 sub appearances). That is 2 starts and 3 sub appearances as a professional player too many to be considered for the Grimsby Town manager's job.

Quoted from forza ivano

off to Paphos apparently

https://www.sigmalive.com/sports/football/cyprus/a-league/601821/ta-vrikan-se-ola-kai-ypografei-stin-pafo-o-cameron-toshack

oh well. back to the drawing board...

Quoted from promotion plaice

He could still be coming here after reading the link   ;)

Quoted from GollyGTFC

OK. Limbrick has had 5 matches in charge and we've scored zero goals. We need to stop wasting time and appoint a new manager. Limbrick has proved he's part of the problem and not the solution.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

inertia means the same as progress for the board.

A point against a poor team is not enough.

Quoted from Withnail

I'd give the job to Robbie Stockdale tomorrow if he's genuinely interested - unless of course there's a better option on the table. I'd be surprised if there is though as I'm very doubtful that Tisdale will come due to location and I doubt we can tempt Holloway, Adkins or Higginbottom due to our financial restraints.

That only leaves Limbrick - or an up and coming manager. The jury must surely have reached an unanimous verdict on AL as despite an improvement, half a dozen games has yielded no goals, let alone a win.

I'd also rule out the latter option as for every Danny Cowley out there in NL  there's a  potential Marcus Bignot which is a gamble we cannot afford to take.

So unless there are other candidates that we're unaware of, I think we should crack on and offer the job to Robbie.

Some will undoubtedly point out that Stockdale has less managerial experience than the managers of Halifax or Barrow...but what he has over non league managers is extensive league contacts at Sunderland etc... which could transform our fortunes following the January transfer window.

That all said...I think I'm wasting my breath as we're not going to appoint a new manager with the Scunny coming up as the board will no doubt want a gentler introduction for the new gaffer.

Quoted from RichMariner

Ian Culverhouse is doing an incredible job with Kings Lynn. I doubt many fans would be happy with an appointment from the National League North but that's the same level Shorty and Shouty joined from.

As for Limbrick, well, I was prepared to accept him as our permanent manager if he could get a win, stop the rot or get us creating more chances.

You could argue that he's done the latter, but quite honestly I think he's missed his chance now. Only a win over Scunny next week will restore his chances. It's important for the board that the fans are onside with the next appointment as home crowds are dwindling.

Can you imagine the response if we gave him the job after scoring zero goals in five games? I get that three or four of them have been against good sides for this level but, even so, five games is too long for him to argue that we're just being unlucky.

I think a team can be unlucky for two or three games but when it's five games it's a consistent theme.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I thought Culverhouse looked like a good bet but someone on here reminded me of the stuff he got caught up in at Villa,  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

If you'd give him the job would you get  Super Clive in to coach the strikers? Dean Crombie to sort the defense? Dis to "be around the club" Tony Rees to coach the back heels with Buckley in a Director of Football? We could even get Lawsey to do the catering.  

We're f******d at the moment, I'm not saying that Robbie is not an option but only if he's the best candidate and not just because he's played for the club.  

Then again looking at the mess any new manager would walk into maybe he is the only candidate.      

Quoted from tanga_the_indestructible

What stuff?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

If you'd give him the job would you get  Super Clive in to coach the strikers? Dean Crombie to sort the defense? Dis to "be around the club" Tony Rees to coach the back heels with Buckley in a Director of Football? We could even get Lawsey to do the catering.  

We're f******d at the moment, I'm not saying that Robbie is not an option but only if he's the best candidate and not just because he's played for the club.  

Then again looking at the mess any new manager would walk into maybe he is the only candidate.      

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

The atmosphere may well have improved but the bleeding results haven't which is far more important than being all pally pally...we need a kick ar$e manager who holds no prisoners...could never see Cloughy being spoken about as being Mr Nice guy!!

Quoted from forza ivano

I'm sticking with my original theory; although they got 50 c.v.s they were all shiite and the board are desperately wishing Limbrick to fluke a win, so they can use it as the excuse to appoint him. And it has the added bonus of being the cheap and easy option.
My evidence is that every time previously we've had advance warning as to who's been interviewed and who is likely to get it. This time ,apart from stockdale, there has been absolutely zero news or rumour

Quoted from forza ivano

I'm sticking with my original theory; although they got 50 c.v.s they were all shiite and the board are desperately wishing Limbrick to fluke a win, so they can use it as the excuse to appoint him. And it has the added bonus of being the cheap and easy option.
My evidence is that every time previously we've had advance warning as to who's been interviewed and who is likely to get it. This time ,apart from stockdale, there has been absolutely zero news or rumour

Quoted from Poojah

I sincerely hoped we might have someone in ahead of Saturday, which will be over a month since Jolley’s sacking. A month in which we haven’t scored.

I fear a humiliation on Saturday, the kind of which many of us will not have seen before. Bath, Chasetown et al were humbling - this, being Hurst and our old enemies, would be something on a different level.

I hope I’m wrong, I really do. But I’ve not seen much in the last two months to give me the confidence otherwise.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Wouldn't Hurst be doing us a big favour if they won comfortably on Saturday? Wouldn't it force Fenty's hand? Surely not even the arch inertia man could ignore that humiliation? Could he?

The worst thing would be another blank draw and even a 1-0 win would not signify the start of a renaissance but both would more or less guarantee no change of manager until New Year at the earliest, and then it is "well let's see what he turns up in the transfer window ............ " and before you know it we are in February.

Quoted from psgmariner

Evatt only recently signed a new three year contract:

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/17980167.manager-ian-evatt-signs-improved-contract-barrow-afc/

Expense gamble if it is him.

Quoted from psgmariner

Evatt only recently signed a new three year contract:

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/17980167.manager-ian-evatt-signs-improved-contract-barrow-afc/

Expense gamble if it is him.

Quoted from Abdul19

He can quit and we'll appoint him the next day. Foolproof.

Quoted from Ipswin

I can't see why he would possibly want to come to Grimsby town.The two clubs are only about half a dozen places apart and he is in with a good chance of getting Barrow into the Football League after God knows how many years in the wilderness. He stands to be a legend up there if he achieves it and if he does he will be a target for many clubs far more attractive to him than GTFC

Quoted from Boris Johnson

had to google evatt.....any relation to Chris?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Welcome to The Fishy, any chance you can fund the new stadium ?   :)

Quoted from Davec

Why has Evatts odds shortened so much? He was 33/1 a few weeks ago, it has been a while since Jolley's departure so it's unlike they are early odds, some people must be putting money on him.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Why would a manager want to manage at a club already in a higher league

Quoted from Ipswin

that might be changing places with the club you are already managing in 6 months time

Quoted from Ipswin

that might be changing places with the club you are already managing in 6 months time

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Unless you had confidence that you could do a job and fancied it

Quoted from Boris Johnson

The Norf is our priority, that and bringing page 3 of the Sun back......

Quoted from Boris Johnson

The Norf is our priority, that and bringing page 3 of the Sun back......

Quoted from SheepGTFC

We should give Emile Heskey the job. Why not?

Quoted from Posh Harry

Heard Kevin Phillips on radio earlier. Wants to go into a number 1 role at some point.

Has worked with numerous managers as number 2, a good striker to pass on experience, links in north east and midlands, good contacts through roles and media.

I’d be happy giving him a go. I suspect he wouldn’t mind starting down the pyramid to get that first job under his belt.

Quoted from BackHeelTony

Kevin Nolan now 1/4 with skybet

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Limerick at 7/1 is good value when you consider they pay out after 10 games as manager. Tomorrow is game 6. Game 10 would be Saturday 4th January.

Quoted from jock dock tower

Marcus Bignot was sacked after Town got 34 points from his 27 games in charge. That would have averaged out at a 58 point total had he stayed and the points kept coming at that rate.

Currently we have 21 points from 19 games, and an end of season points total looms of just 51 points.

Would this scenario have been tolerated were two clubs being relegated this season? It's embarrassing to think it would, but like many others I've become totally disillusioned with what goes on behind closed doors at Blundell Park and absolutely nothing would surprise me now.

We can't cut it with the existing set up, that much is patently obvious. I've zero confidence in the club appointing someone else who might be able to do so either. Pass me the Lou Reed album.....

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Limerick at 7/1 is good value when you consider they pay out after 10 games as manager. Tomorrow is game 6. Game 10 would be Saturday 4th January.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Limerick at 7/1 is good value when you consider they pay out after 10 games as manager. Tomorrow is game 6. Game 10 would be Saturday 4th January.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Limerick at 7/1 is good value when you consider they pay out after 10 games as manager. Tomorrow is game 6. Game 10 would be Saturday 4th January.

Quoted from 123614

ATM he is only the Interim/Caretaker Manager, so how does that work out?  My guess, and it's only a guess, is that it will only apply when someone is appointed Manager!

Quoted from BackHeelTony

Kevin Nolan now 1/4 with skybet

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Lou Reed this is time for Leonard Cohen.....

I fully expect an appointment that I won’t look twice at.

Quoted from Mikey_345

It includes caretakers if they manage 10 games.

Quoted Text

"In any event, I have been in talks with another League club about becoming their manager this week and those discussions are ongoing.”

Quoted from Jonty

Surprised this quote by Ian Holloway hasn’t been mentioned yet.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ian-holloway-exclusive-believe-bristol-3661540



Only us and Rovers without a manager?

Quoted from forza ivano

Interesting. You're right so by elimination he must have spoken to us

Quoted from Jonty

Surprised this quote by Ian Holloway hasn’t been mentioned yet.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ian-holloway-exclusive-believe-bristol-3661540



Only us and Rovers without a manager?

Quoted from Les Brechin

1/6 now! Also come from nowhere is Ian Holloway who's now 3rd favourite.

Kevin Nolan 1/6
Anthony Limbrick 6/1
Ian Holloway 10/1
Pete Wild 16/1
Ian Evatt 20/1
Robbie Stockdale 20/1
Chris Hargreaves 22/1
Andy Welsh 25/1
Craig Disley 25/1
Craig Elliott 25/1

Quoted from 1542

What concerns me the most is that, if Macclesfield drop out which looks highly likely, JF will just stop loans etc to reduce the expenditure to the minimum in order to recoup further loans. Despite the hype at the start of the Season with how we were pushing for the play offs and hard working people forked out for a ST on this premise.

Ian Holloway will not be coming, for sure!!

Even the honest/hard working ST holders will just avoid going!!

He is rapidly ruining anything good about this Club!!!

Quoted from Jonty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50892824

Holloway not going to Rovers

Quoted from Stevie Cammack

Don't shoot the messenger, but the name I am hearing banded around for you lot is Eddie Smith.  Bit of a blast from the past, but Fentz apparently thinks his skills & experience suits GTFC perfectly.  

Quoted from Davec

Who?

Quoted from Davec

Who?

Quoted from Stadium

Something you'll never hear here:

"Ben was the outstanding candidate for the role and someone who really stood out to us during the interview process," Rovers' chief executive Martyn Starnes told the club website.

"He has a wealth of experience in the game and we look forward to supporting him is his role here at the club.

"Ben has a great record of working with younger players and we are keen for the close ties between the first-team and academy to be expanded further, showcasing a pathway for young players."

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Wonderful statement but let’s wait and see how he gets on to see if this Bignot like enthusiasm is justified. As for us given Macclesfield’s plight surprised Darren McMahon is not getting more support on here.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Probably beachside he's called Daryl

Quoted from Poojah

Surprisingly, even in landlocked Macclesfield he’s called Daryl.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

😂😂😂

Oops

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Wonderful statement but let’s wait and see how he gets on to see if this Bignot like enthusiasm is justified. As for us given Macclesfield’s plight surprised Darren McMahon is not getting more support on here.