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FishOutOfWater
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I see our ref from the Palace game is at the centre of a couple of VAR decisions in the Man U - Liverpool game

If it stays as it is I'm sure Klopp will be having something to say
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Was the foul a clear and obvious error? Origi went down too easily. Was the handball a handball? Clearly. Both looked fair enough.
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Yeah, but c'mon....those are some teeth he has, now we know what happened to Shergar...🤔🤔..
On a serious note, for once VAR got it right, if you look at the Origi incident, the ball had got away from him through a poor touch and he wouldn't have got to the ball before lindelof tapped his calf...handball could be classed as unlucky but in the eyes of the law it was handball...
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If Liverpool loose this game then the friendly joking Klopp will go into melt down and we will see him in his true colours. Sky will also be gutted as they are desperate for Liverpool to win the league so they can do a program all about it.
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Was the foul a clear and obvious error? Origi went down too easily. Was the handball a handball? Clearly. Both looked fair enough.


I'm pretty sure that had Paul Marsden been in charge, the ref who gave Mansfield all of their free kicks when Town players came anywhere close to their personal space never mind making contact with them, Liverpool would have had a free kick

To me VAR is still very subjective..... at times the officials will see what they want to see but I take your point that Origi did go down too easily but it was after he'd been fouled so I'd say Atkinson and/or the VAR official should have awarded a free kick to Liverpool
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I'm pretty sure that had Paul Marsden been in charge, the ref who gave Mansfield all of their free kicks when Town players came anywhere close to their personal space never mind making contact with them, Liverpool would have had a free kick

To me VAR is still very subjective..... at times the officials will see what they want to see but I take your point that Origi did go down too easily but it was after he'd been fouled so I'd say Atkinson and/or the VAR official should have awarded a free kick to Liverpool


Watching it back, Origi was on his way down before Lindelof touched him.
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It’s the down right stubbornness of the VAR team not to overrule the referee, or allow him to review the footage pitch side that irks me. I hate VAR, it’s showed that it’s far from practical in football with the amount of controversy around it already, there’s too many grey areas in the rules and the only black and white issue is goal line technology which has been 100% perfect since it’s inception. They keep saying it needs time to bed in and everyone to adjust, absolute rubbish. There will still be the same issues in years to come. VAR isn’t suitable in football and needs disbanding as soon as possible in my opinion.

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The day we get into the premiership ( believe, it will happen one day) or VAR is brought in at our level is the day I stop going to BP, your team scores a goal and instead of celebrating you have to wait to see if there was an incident in the previous 10 minutes. So 5 minutes after the "goal" you get to celebrate or cuss dependant on the verdict.
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Both decisions were correct IMO. Origi went down with what looked the most faintest of touches and the handball was pretty clear.  
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It was the faintest of touches with his arm and no way was it deliberate. They've changed the rule now to acomodate the incompetence of VAR. To me handball has to deliberate and not accidentally brushing an arm. It did not change the flight of the ball and made no difference.

They will will be following cricket next and introduce hotspot to spot the faintest of touches.

Where will all it end?
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