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Sheff Utd just had a goal disallowed for a lad being offside by 0.27mm about 37 minutes before the ball went in. At least the decision only took about an hour to make though.


Apparently it was a shocking decision so lets hope this is the straw that broke the camels back and they suspend VAR for now.
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Apparently it was a shocking decision so lets hope this is the straw that broke the camels back and they suspend VAR for now.


Really?
Have you looked back to when VAR was introduced in other countries??
Take these articles as an example:

https://www.dw.com/en/var-in-the-premier-league-how-has-it-worked-in-the-bundesliga/a-46333249

https://www.skysports.com/foot.....sed-by-referees-body

And guess what VAR still in place in Germany& Spain and now introduced here.
Its not going away.



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Really?
Have you looked back to when VAR was introduced in other countries??
Take these articles as an example:

https://www.dw.com/en/var-in-the-premier-league-how-has-it-worked-in-the-bundesliga/a-46333249

https://www.skysports.com/foot.....sed-by-referees-body

And guess what VAR still in place in Germany& Spain and now introduced here.
Its not going away.


It was more in hope than expectation. VAR is the pits.
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Apparently it was a shocking decision so lets hope this is the straw that broke the camels back and they suspend VAR for now.


I have now seen the decision in question.

Dear God, this is not football as we know it. It is a travesty, a mockery of the great game, ruined by some over qualified prat in front of a TV screen miles away who wants to have a piece of the action.

VAR is ruining the game, taking all the fun out of it and getting things plain wrong, every week. Even if the Sheff Utd's player was a centimetre  offside  (he wasn't) in the build up to the goal, why is it necessary to disallow the goal? In an entertainment business why would you be determined to disallow the very thing that people pay good money to come to see?

The decision today was in the build up the goal; why not go the whole hog and go right back to the kick off and check every decision which led to that passage of play as it is just as relevant? Everything that happens of the pitch as a direct bearing as to what happens next, so you either leave well alone or check every decision all the time if you want everything to be "correct".
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I have now seen the decision in question.

Dear God, this is not football as we know it. It is a travesty, a mockery of the great game, ruined by some over qualified prat in front of a TV screen miles away who wants to have a piece of the action.

VAR is ruining the game, taking all the fun out of it and getting things plain wrong, every week. Even if the Sheff Utd's player was a centimetre  offside  (he wasn't) in the build up to the goal, why is it necessary to disallow the goal? In an entertainment business why would you be determined to disallow the very thing that people pay good money to come to see?

The decision today was in the build up the goal; why not go the whole hog and go right back to the kick off and check every decision which led to that passage of play as it is just as relevant? Everything that happens of the pitch as a direct bearing as to what happens next, so you either leave well alone or check every decision all the time if you want everything to be "correct".


Actually he was offside according to the laws of the game:

"The law states that a player is in an offside position if any of their body parts, except the hands and arms, are in the opponents' half of the pitch, and closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent"

Make of that what you may.



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Actually he was offside according to the laws of the game:

"The law states that a player is in an offside position if any of their body parts, except the hands and arms, are in the opponents' half of the pitch, and closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent"

Make of that what you may.


Are you rancido in disguise? He was not offside, in any reasonable interpretation of the law.
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Are you rancido in disguise? He was not offside, in any reasonable interpretation of the law.


On or off...any part of the body...big toe, little toe, nose or d!ck, i get your point but the law is black and white on this one and the use of VAR can get a more accurate decision than the human eye in offside situations.
The free kick and foul decisions are still entirely subjective no matter where anyone is sitting so that is what needs sorting most urgently.


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Are you rancido in disguise? He was not offside, in any reasonable interpretation of the law.


???

Please explain.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI8cWz1WoAM2itu?format=jpg&name=small

What ever your opinions on VAR the decision was correct.
If you want to "interpret" the law differently that's entirely your choice.




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On or off...any part of the body...big toe, little toe, nose or d!ck, i get your point but the law is black and white on this one and the use of VAR can get a more accurate decision than the human eye in offside situations.
The free kick and foul decisions are still entirely subjective no matter where anyone is sitting so that is what needs sorting most urgently.


Have you seen it? There is no way that decision is "black and white." Are you honestly saying that a goal should be disallowed because someone in a studio deems that one players big toe is one centimetre in front of a defenders knee cap after a subjective view of when the ball is played,  and where the imaginary line is drawn? It was not even the move that led to the goal.

You think that people who paid hundreds of pounds to get to and attend the match think that is the correct decision?

It took 3 minutes to arrive at the decision after endless deliberation and to may observers they still got it wrong. Why is that good for the game in any way?
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???

Please explain.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI8cWz1WoAM2itu?format=jpg&name=small

What ever your opinions on VAR the decision was correct.
If you want to "interpret" the law differently that's entirely your choice.



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