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November 3, 2019, 8:04pm

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Rubbish, booking at worst . He hardly touched him. I rewound it and it looks like a dislocated ankle that was put back in by the time he went off . Hope I’m right , Son can appeal and get it recinded

Must agree with this.....Son's challenge looked innocuous and I will be surprised if Spurs don't appeal the red card.

Son is an honest player and he looked inconsolable after the challenge but for me there was no intent to harm Gomes.





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November 3, 2019, 8:14pm

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It does look as if he’s gone out to injure him if you follow the narrative that Sky sort of suggested with the context of a VAR review for an elbow by Gomes on Son a few minutes earlier. Not for me - a clumsy challenge that was about to be punished by a yellow until Atkinson saw the injury.
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It does look as if he’s gone out to injure him if you follow the narrative that Sky sort of suggested with the context of a VAR review for an elbow by Gomes on Son a few minutes earlier. Not for me - a clumsy challenge that was about to be punished by a yellow until Atkinson saw the injury.


Red mist desecended, ran after him and fouled him, never went for the ball, only the player....not saying it was a full bloodied leg breaker type challenge, but if you chase a player with the intent of bringing him down then "endangering the opponent" must be in there to consider ?


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November 3, 2019, 9:16pm
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Just seen a picture (don’t know how to put it on here) it’s worse than a dislocation but at least it’s sitting the right way now
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Watched the game but was out room and missed the actual moment... Only saw Son's challenge on replay and only looked a yellow to me. But from what I can decipher without seeing cringe worthy footage Gomes foot jammed into turf, a freak accident not necessarily brought on by Son.

Seems the ref saw the injury and changed it to red. But like I say, I missed the crucial moment.

Dunno if I want to see it, I'm imagining Alf Inge Haaland  v Roy Keane (but ankle not leg) by the way the player's all traumatised like they got PTSD.

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November 3, 2019, 9:49pm
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Nowhere as bad as buusts all those years ago, at least the break/dislocation is actually at a joint
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Yellow card
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Dermot Gallagher:

"Whatever the decision made on the day pales into insignificance for what happened to Gomes. I wish him a speedy recovery. I just hope Martin Atkinson gets the support network he deserves because people will say it wasn't a red card - they may well be right - but if you're in that situation at that time I can fully understand why Atkinson took the action he did. I defy any person refereeing at that level and to be involved in that situation to put their hand up and say 'I'd have done it differently'."

Apparently Son wasn't shown a yellow but a straight red.
Therefore spurs can appeal.



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November 4, 2019, 4:39pm

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What we need is a video panel to correct mistakes made by the VAR referee.  


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Not wanting to particularly put on a tinfoil hat here, but could it be possible that the referees are deliberately refusing to check the monitors at the ground for contentious offside/penalty decisions in an attempt to get the system booted out or perhaps changed?

From the brief bits of MOTD I've seen, the TV commentators seem to be berating them for never looking at the monitors in these cases so I do wonder if some of them have agreed amongst themselves that this should be the way to proceed?

Can't say I would blame them if this is the case as it's a shockingly bad implementation of the technology as it stands. As I've said in the past, there should be an "Umpire's Call" situation for decisions which aren't especially obviously incorrect, especially when it comes to offsides.
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