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1mickylyons
July 5, 2019, 11:14am Report to Moderator
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The thing about living in town is that after every game, the number of people that constantly ask me about the game, and the club in general. There is a lot of interest in the club from fans that don't go anymore but are genuinely interested and would always wish us well and still say they are fans.

Problem is turning that latent support into fans through the turnstiles. Ask why they don't go and you get a lot of different answers but generally because of where we are and once they stop going it's very difficult to get them back again.


This in buckets is also my experience I speak with dozens of lapsed Town fans who have stopped for dozens of reasons but the most obvious they are simply out the habit.
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Parking...access from meggies etc accessible if the station is still in use. Even the likes of maybe having a sort of park and ride from new clee station to docks station.

Support...there are many that find it too expensive so would have to pick and choose games. With a new ground, we also have a blank canvas. Ask the fans, you know, the people that matter, where certain ends should be (where to put away fans/new pontoon/family section etc) this way, offers could be applied to certain areas. A non static stadium is a must.


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Would players prefer to play in a new stadium or train on good facilities?

Good facilities reduce injuries etc so any new stadium needs to include leading facilities or out facilities need upgrading first.
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Good facilities bring in better players. Any potential new signings have a look at the club first before committing themselves. One look around our facilities and the first offer they get from another club with anything like decent facilities and they're gone
It's the same scenario which loan players. A club that want to loan out one of their starlets take a look and think we're not risking his development there thank you very much.
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Could be significant.. Tom Shutes has just retweeted a few good luck messages re the takeover..

https://twitter.com/thstas

Also encouraging.. the content of the tweets he has retweeted..
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I read that as nothing more than applying a bit of pressure in a kind of ‘I’m the people’s choice of steward for the club [and not a steward in a hi vis jacket sense]’ 😉


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I'm not sure if Network Rail would be keen to build a new footbridge at a station with just one platform. There's a pedestrian walkway within the nearby Cleethorpes Road flyover.
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I'm not sure if Network Rail would be keen to build a new footbridge at a station with just one platform. There's a pedestrian walkway within the nearby Cleethorpes Road flyover.



I doubt very much if Network Rail will pay for any station refurbishment at either Docks Station or New Clee. When the Great Coates site was being discussed they wanted the club to pay for Great Coates station to be updated so I doubt very much if their position will change for the two stations in question.


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I doubt very much if Network Rail will pay for any station refurbishment at either Docks Station or New Clee. When the Great Coates site was being discussed they wanted the club to pay for Great Coates station to be updated so I doubt very much if their position will change for the two stations in question.


Imagine if their forebears in the MS&LR* had taken the attitude that the businesses of Grimsby and Cleethorpes would benefit from the railway so they could bloody well pay for the thing! The railway company then had the vision to not only build the docks but also the prom at Cleethorpes because both would increase their traffic..

* Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway.


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Imagine if their forebears in the MS&LR* had taken the attitude that the businesses of Grimsby and Cleethorpes would benefit from the railway so they could bloody well pay for the thing! The railway company then had the vision to not only build the docks but also the prom at Cleethorpes because both would increase their traffic..

* Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway.



But the MSL&R did build Docks Station and they did it for huge financial reasons. Their main reasons was for the number of people in the area that would use a rail link on a daily basis. The access of the railway to Grimsby ( especially the docks ) was for the hugely lucrative freight business generated by the port. The fishing industry added to this and at it's height in excess of 20 fish trains alone left Grimsby every day of the working week. The later extension to Cleethorpes was built purely for the huge numbers of holiday makers from South Yorkshire that wanted to access the seaside. Now there is no freight at all that leaves Grimsby Docks by rail and I would hardly imagine the possible use of a station on 23 occasions a year would justify the costs incurred. The holiday maker travel to Cleethorpes has reduced greatly in the last 50 years. I remember up to 30 rail excursions coming into Cleethorpes on a Sunday in the summer during the early 1960's. To my knowledge there are none now. Even the MSL&R and its later format the GCR would never have considered such an outlay for such a small return in the case of upgrading Grimsby Docks station and New Clee.


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