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jock dock tower
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A new stadium can work wonders. Donny's attendances more than doubled their first season in the new one, as did Huddersfields'. People will come if the product is right. Still love BP though, that'll never die.


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You'd think we could get 8-9000 (it would be nice) if we were in the top half, add a few thousand more for championship plus the extra away following. But we don't. Normally 5500 in the championship, give or take a thousand. Some good entertainment/football in the 90s
I live 100mile away so seldom go to home games but judging by gates over the last 30years, people aren't interested
You could almost give the tickets away, and we have done in the past, and we'd struggle to sell more tickets


but the club fail to to even try and capitalise when the going gets good, sit on their laurels and therefore its easy to stay away when the times are hard....since our first trips to Wembley in 98 we have immediately lost / failed to retain the 10's of thousands of supporters that went to those games.....
our eventual return to the League was met with long delays on releasing season tickets....which eventually came out after we had announced some of the best loved players had left and oh yes...the prices were going up !!  Thats just one example.



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but the club fail to to even try and capitalise when the going gets good, sit on their laurels and therefore its easy to stay away when the times are hard....since our first trips to Wembley in 98 we have immediately lost / failed to retain the 10's of thousands of supporters that went to those games.....
our eventual return to the League was met with long delays on releasing season tickets....which eventually came out after we had announced some of the best loved players had left and oh yes...the prices were going up !!  Thats just one example.



There are lots of factors that impact attendances at BP.  With all the major industries either in decline or disappeared over the last 20 years (the fishing industry, Findus, Birds Eye, KP Foods, Ciba-Geigy, Courtaulds, Tioxide, just a few that spring to mind). These companies employed thousands, sadly the younger generation, have to move out of the town to find employment, thats why we have a good following at away games, exiles, scattered all over the country.
Watching football in no longer a working man's game, the aveage family is being priced out,  football in this country, is killing the game, or should I say the Premiership and player's AGENTS. Foreign Manager's moaning in the Premiership they play too many games, wanting a winter break and no replays in the league cup and now after the fourth round in the FA cup there are no replays, so less chance for the lower teams to make a bit of money from replays.
Then there is BP, it has the oldest stand in the football league, which has to be maintained, which will cost the club.  The club has tried to move, however we have the most backward thinking council in the entire country, which has stopped the club moving forward.
Had we moved to Great Coates, we would have had more modern facilities, less maintenance costs, which might allowed a bigger player budget.
Grimsby will always have the diehard element, that will always support the club, through what ever.
Until their is substantial investment in the town, whoever is at the helm, will struggle.
One thing for sure, is come the first game of this season, I will at there, because, I am Grimsby until I die.

UTM.
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There are lots of factors that impact attendances at BP.  With all the major industries either in decline or disappeared over the last 20 years (the fishing industry, Findus, Birds Eye, KP Foods, Ciba-Geigy, Courtaulds, Tioxide, just a few that spring to mind). These companies employed thousands, sadly the younger generation, have to move out of the town to find employment, thats why we have a good following at away games, exiles, scattered all over the country.
Watching football in no longer a working man's game, the aveage family is being priced out,  football in this country, is killing the game, or should I say the Premiership and player's AGENTS. Foreign Manager's moaning in the Premiership they play too many games, wanting a winter break and no replays in the league cup and now after the fourth round in the FA cup there are no replays, so less chance for the lower teams to make a bit of money from replays.
Then there is BP, it has the oldest stand in the football league, which has to be maintained, which will cost the club.  The club has tried to move, however we have the most backward thinking council in the entire country, which has stopped the club moving forward.
Had we moved to Great Coates, we would have had more modern facilities, less maintenance costs, which might allowed a bigger player budget.
Grimsby will always have the diehard element, that will always support the club, through what ever.
Until their is substantial investment in the town, whoever is at the helm, will struggle.
One thing for sure, is come the first game of this season, I will at there, because, I am Grimsby until I die.

UTM.


Most of that applies to other northern towns.


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I'm 80 Pete so let's hang on in there


I will do my best Garth if we are still here when the new ground opens we will have to have a drink together in the posh new bar to celebrate


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I will do my best Garth if we are still here when the new ground opens we will have to have a drink together in the posh new bar to celebrate


The posh new bar called FENTY'S  





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The posh new bar called FENTY'S  





There used to be a fishy table in the Imp where I met a few posters in the past so maybe we could get one in the new bar   PP .



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Quoted from nightrider
You'd think we could get 8-9000 (it would be nice) if we were in the top half, add a few thousand more for championship plus the extra away following. But we don't. Normally 5500 in the championship, give or take a thousand. Some good entertainment/football in the 90s
I live 100mile away so seldom go to home games but judging by gates over the last 30years, people aren't interested
You could almost give the tickets away, and we have done in the past, and we'd struggle to sell more tickets

1995 A good time to be a town fan. Big game i remember against Charlton to decide who would go top -
Att 6800

Off subject and im too young to remember but ref a pic of a newspaper cutting from the 80s when Lineker played for Leicester in the first div. They only had 10k to a game against a wolves. 30k now and I'd imagine most are season tickets. Everton v villa 15k. Birmingham 9k. That was top flight, and it was standing


Check out crowds at Rotherham, Chesterfield as well as Donny as mentioned above, before they moved. Town get more in now than any of those three did in their old grounds. Also you've mentioned Charlton above - check their crowd at the old Valley in the early 80s - I saw Town win their in a second division game in front of 4k. Town haven't had the bounce in home crowds that many (most) clubs have because Blundell Park is the problem - it is just not acceptable to many people who would watch live sport and still has the spectre of violence in the streets around the ground for local derbies. Some will still remember Leeds  / Stoke / Wednesday  / Blades...BP was just not a nice place to bring kids to a game on many occasions.
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I will do my best Garth if we are still here when the new ground opens we will have to have a drink together in the posh new bar to celebrate


See you there in five years time
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It appears the Freemen still plan to knock down all the houses on Thesiger Walk. I guess that won't be too much of a problem if the homes are not privately owned.

As for car parking, there's around 100 spaces on Garibaldi Street for a start. Orwell Street. Railway Street. Perhaps an arrangement could be made with the Ice House on Victor Street. I don't know if Asda and Tesco would introduce parking charges for customers. You could leave your vehicle in Freshney Place and get a bus to the stadium.
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