Jamie Osbourne staying at Solihull

for another month https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2017/december/osborne-to-stay-with-the-moors/

Lets face it there is no space in Sladeball for a skillful centre midfielder, emergency recall is only in case we get all 2 centre mids crocked at once as he will put Woolford in there before Osbourne.  

Personal reasons. Don’t turn everything into an anti Slade article.

Ffs was really excited about a fit Osborne coming straight in on Saturday

Sad to say it but I don't think we'll see him in a Town shirt again.

What an absolute mug I am for believing him and the club about it only being a one month loan so he can build fitness. He's staying at a shite little club, something's gone on there. Scandalous, whatever's gone on, he needs to get his bottom back to Grimsby, whether or not he has self imposed 'transport' issues or not, get in a b and b, take responsibility and do the job you've been signed for and are being paid for.

Maybe I'm being unfair here, but I'm hearing things and it's a joke.

I'm beginning to think that when he eventually does come back his heart may still be elsewhere, which will be a shame as there's good potential in him

What are you hearing Reverend?

We're about as exciting as the old Arsenal from the 80/90's when the saying was " 1-0 to the Arsenal" trouble is we don't score that many. We maybe tight at the back but no way is this team going to make the playoffs as we cannot score, hence our goal difference will always be in the minus.

If it is "personal reasons" then I would demand he returns myself. He has plenty of time after training and after a Saturday afternoon to sort out personal stuff. How does he think a normal working man gets his life together?

Whatever it is isn't stopping him playing football is it? He should be playing for us and thats the end of it.  

I've never known so many players disappear because of 'personal issues' as I have this last year.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

What are you hearing Reverend?

Have to be careful, but I'm hearing he has newly found legal transport issues in relation to being able to drive his car and he lives out of Grimsby.

Quoted from barrattstandman

Personal reasons. Don’t turn everything into an anti Slade article.

That wasn't anti slade, just my personal view on his preferred tactics and personnel choces based on his  tactics/team selections and signings when he has been our manager.

Heard a rumour along the lines of what BPV said at the game on Tuesday. Source not brilliant/unproven.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Lets face it there is no space in Sladeball for a skillful centre midfielder, emergency recall is only in case we get all 2 centre mids crocked at once as he will put Woolford in there before Osbourne.  

I am surprised Slade hasn't put his foot down and recalled him but I think the Sladeball jibe is uncalled for. We are a 4th division side at the end of the day, and we are not particularly long ball anyway.

Quoted from pizzzza

Sad to say it but I don't think we'll see him in a Town shirt again.

What did a red carded Fishy member and myself tell you when he went . We got a load of shite back from all those supposedly in the know.          It just goes to show that thick people think intelligent people are thick

Quoted from golfer

What did a red carded Fishy member and myself tell you when he went . We got a load of shite back from all those supposedly in the know.          It just goes to show that thick people think intelligent people are thick

None so blind as those who do not want to see.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I am surprised Slade hasn't put his foot down and recalled him but I think the Sladeball jibe is uncalled for. We are a 4th division side at the end of the day, and we are not particularly long ball anyway.

Funny you should say that LCL…

When I was on my way back from Luton I had the local BBC radio station on (3CR) and they drew attention to Luton’s passing game and mentioned Town’s long ball game

I tend to agree with you that ‘Sladeball’ gets a bit of a bad press but their commentators obviously saw something with us to raise the issue

What a waste of a player to be languishing at the bottom of the none league. If he is having "transport issues" he should be crashing a B&B and back in a black and white shirt to help create that spark we need.

Quoted from 75

Have to be careful, but I'm hearing he has newly found legal transport issues in relation to being able to drive his car and he lives out of Grimsby.

You’re right BP we do have to be careful. Trial by social media can be dodgy. I have heard similar but again I must stress only from the rumour mill. However, IF that is the case then he moves nearer to the club he has a contract with. Or sorts out a lift in for training/matches.  

Quoted from 75

Have to be careful, but I'm hearing he has newly found legal transport issues in relation to being able to drive his car and he lives out of Grimsby.

You mean he's been to a BBQ mate?

Maybe Jamey thinks like quite a few of our fans and thinks Slade's a nobber and doesn't want to play for him.

Maybe he realised he was happier playing for his local club, with his family and friends around him, and working part time too.

God knows. Gutted that we’re probably not going to see him play for us again, but at the end of the day, I’d rather support players that want to be here, even if they’re not as talented.

Say what you want about Slade, but I just can’t see him not wanting to have a fit Jamey in or around the team...there must be more to it than that.

We paid a few for him so he should sort it out, if as alleged it's transport issues then it's not beyond the wit of man to solve this.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

We paid a few for him so he should sort it out, if as alleged it's transport issues then it's not beyond the wit of man to solve this. Is this not a breach of contract?

Wouldn't want to be unfair to him, I may well be wrong. But I think he or / and the club owes it to the supporters who pay his wages to tell us the truth, for once. I believed him when he said he'd be back for the Accrington game, he wanted to get a few games under his belt. We don't deserve to be lied to, though it appears to be standard and has been pretty much since JF has been involved, whether that's an outright lie, or omissions. I'm bored of it.

Wasn't he car sharing with Clements from Birmingham?

I think the immediate recall is so he can be sold to another club in January personally.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I am surprised Slade hasn't put his foot down and recalled him but I think the Sladeball jibe is uncalled for. We are a 4th division side at the end of the day, and we are not particularly long ball anyway.

Maybe the problem is JO did just that?!  

He got a 2 1/2 year deal, he should have moved to the area. There is no way we should've signed players on long contracts who weren't willing to move to within an hour of the area.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Funny you should say that LCL…

When I was on my way back from Luton I had the local BBC radio station on (3CR) and they drew attention to Luton’s passing game and mentioned Town’s long ball game

I tend to agree with you that ‘Sladeball’ gets a bit of a bad press but their commentators obviously saw something with us to raise the issue

Luton are flying and scoring for fun. They play an expansive passing game and are said to be the Man City of league 2, so I wouldn't put much store by that comparison. I guess most of the teams they are thrashing look a "long ball side" as they desperately try to clear the danger.  

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Maybe the problem is JO did just that?!  

I see what you did there!  Is that the reason, if so it wouldn't be for that long would it? in any event, should be made to stay here in a B&B for part of the week if that is the case and he cannot drive.  

I have no idea LCL. Only just seen the inferences of rumours on this thread.

But you're right. In most employment contracts it's your duty to get to your place of work. Ridiculous if that's the 'personal reasons' referred to when the original loan was announced.

We'll have to wait and see what comes out.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He got a 2 1/2 year deal, he should have moved to the area. There is no way we should've signed players on long contracts who weren't willing to move to within an hour of the area.

Maybe that was a fault of Bignot’s. He’s not the only player from the Midlands, signed by Bignot, that looks to be on his way out.

Maybe Bignot didn’t mind the travelling, and Slade does? Every manager is different I guess.

What the hell ever happened to Clements? Has he even played a single game on loan?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He got a 2 1/2 year deal, he should have moved to the area. There is no way we should've signed players on long contracts who weren't willing to move to within an hour of the area.

Yes completely agree, but don't forget he was signed by a deluded tw@t who wanted to prove he could bring more "technical ability" into the club as he wasn't to keen on the honest, hardworking pro's he inherited...................he's currently making the same fcuk up's at Chester BTW Oddly enough out of all the players Bignot brought in only Jones remains available for this Saturday's game if memory serves me right.

I would imagine we have seen the last of him in a Town shirt, I reckon if we can get a bit of cash for him we'll cut our loses, not what I want to see but if a players not happy then maybe it is best for all involved.

Real shame!

If RS wanted Jamie back he would find a way of making it happen. Personal/family reasons would account for a limited spell back 'home' . Anything else would imply a transfer request surely. Either way, we need 'an impeccable source' or preferably, more clarity from  the parties involved.

I dont usually side with slade  but. this seems like another player that gets injured,, uses all out time and money to get fit and then just wants to sodomist off for some sad reason.. slade should make him come back and work for his money end of.. Where slade falls down on this one is not being honest with the paying fans,, we all saw this coming , he has seen or heard what the fans have been saying for weeks now and hid behind silence . if players just want to play with there mates and family,, stay where you are , not hard is it

So he'd rather play for Solihull than us? Shows the state we are in.

Quoted from Kris2

So he'd rather play for Solihull than us? Shows the state we are in.

Or it shows why, despite his obvious ability, at 25 he's only played half a season at tier 5 of the football pyramid and a handful of games professionally. Maybe he doesn't have the drive or ambition to make it as a pro and he's happier being the best player on the pitch in front of less than 1000 fans.

Quoted from mariner91

Or it shows why, despite his obvious ability, at 25 he's only played half a season at tier 5 of the football pyramid and a handful of games professionally. Maybe he doesn't have the drive or ambition to make it as a pro and he's happier being the best player on the pitch in front of less than 1000 fans.

If that's the case it's a shocking waste of his ability, at 25 you'd have to say this is his last chance at pushing up the leagues.  

I rather worryingly suggested on the last Jamie Osborne thread (19 Dec.) that personal reasons could well be behind his return home.Got 6 ‘x’s which would a very willing price to pay if he returned for Accrington. To continue my thoughts, I suspect now a wife at home might hold all the Ace’s and Russel has his hands tied.
I hope we are all proved wrong and he returns, fulfills his contract during which time he reaches his full potential
which should mean we become serious challengers,he earns another contract or moves on for big money.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

If that's the case it's a shocking waste of his ability, at 25 you'd have to say this is his last chance at pushing up the leagues.  

I wholeheartedly agree. If the rumours are true and he's based in Birmingham still despite signing for us with a long-term contract then that in itself suggests a lack of commitment. If it's because he's now allegedly got a driving ban (just rent a flat ffs) then perhaps he's not really that fussed about making it. If you really wanted to then you'd find a way around what is a reasonably trivial matter.

Quoted from mariner91

Or it shows why, despite his obvious ability, at 25 he's only played half a season at tier 5 of the football pyramid and a handful of games professionally. Maybe he doesn't have the drive or ambition to make it as a pro and he's happier being the best player on the pitch in front of less than 1000 fans.

It's a fair point Matt to be honest within 18 months his life is possibly unrecognizable from what it was on top of all the football stuff I think he has a young family and I know from experience that it's difficult to deal with when you working away or commuting daily/weekly.

I think he had a trade before he went full time so as mad as it sounds working and playing part time closer to home might leave better of financially and emotionally.

I would like to see him in a Town shirt again but if it's not going to work lets move him on and free up the payroll for the Jan window.

  

Slades the manager and ultimately Slade takes the rap. He clearly doesn't rate a good few of our players despite what we see as fans.

He won't get sacked by Fenty bar a plunge to the relegation places.

There will be a big summer clear out of a lot of player's that don't suit sladeball and next season we will see the full effect of his management skills. Hoof.

That I'm afraid is the bottom line.

I can't stand sladeball by the way. I am in no way endorsing the state of things. I just can't see a positive outcome.

Unless he has a January and summer shopping list that includes players with pace, power, and a goal keeper that can catch a cross and doesn't chuck a few in the next we will be watching the same old turgid football.


On that joyous note.
Happy New Year.

Quoted from denni266

I dont usually side with slade  but. this seems like another player that gets injured,, uses all out time and money to get fit and then just wants to sodomist off for some sad reason.. slade should make him come back and work for his money end of.. Where slade falls down on this one is not being honest with the paying fans,, we all saw this coming , he has seen or heard what the fans have been saying for weeks now and hid behind silence . if players just want to play with there mates and family,, stay where you are , not hard is it

I think for once we have to trust Slade's judgement here, he is an experienced manager who has a good record with player engagement and is closer to the situation that anyone on here. Maybe Slade's hands have been tied with regard to making public statements especially if it's a "private" or "legal" matter. I get the "he should be made" bit and in a normal world that should be the case but it's football and all the power sits with the player even at this level.

Very easy to blame Slade but he may be trying to rescue the situation and at the very least get a small fee for the player if he goes.

Whatever the truth of this situation, and we will probably never know, I find this really disappointing and confusing because he is technically good and would improve our starting 11 IMO.  It might be out of the club's hands and is probably not a question of his actual ability, but, based on what we know (ie, very little), staying at Solihull - this struggling tin pot conference outfit looks a stinker and a bit odd, given that he's seemingly proved himself to be a footballer worthy of playing comfortably higher than that.

Baffled and a bit cross.

Quoted from lowerfindus

Slades the manager and ultimately Slade takes the rap. He clearly doesn't rate a good few of our players despite what we see as fans.

He won't get sacked by Fenty bar a plunge to the relegation places.

There will be a big summer clear out of a lot of player's that don't suit sladeball and next season we will see the full effect of his management skills. Hoof.

That I'm afraid is the bottom line.

I can't stand sladeball by the way. I am in no way endorsing the state of things. I just can't see a positive outcome.

Unless he has a January and summer shopping list that includes players with pace, power, and a goal keeper that can catch a cross and doesn't chuck a few in the next we will be watching the same old turgid football.


On that joyous note.
Happy New Year.

Why is the Osborne situation Slade's fault?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Luton are flying and scoring for fun. They play an expansive passing game and are said to be the Man City of league 2, so I wouldn't put much store by that comparison. I guess most of the teams they are thrashing look a "long ball side" as they desperately try to clear the danger.  

And apparently we're being touted as the millwall of div 2

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Why is the Osborne situation Slade's fault?

Where did I say the Osborne situation is Slade's fault?

If osbourne has got personal/ driving issues, how on earth can that be slade so fault?

One other point re Luton, there's absolutely no chance of us being able to play through
Lutons midfield.the only choice was to bypass them and try and create something out of a long ball

Quoted from lowerfindus

Where did I say the Osborne situation is Slade's fault?

Maybe I read it wrong but............

"Slades the manager and ultimately Slade takes the rap. He clearly doesn't rate a good few of our players despite what we see as fans."

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Quoted from HertsGTFC

Maybe I read it wrong but............

"Slades the manager and ultimately Slade takes the rap. He clearly doesn't rate a good few of our players despite what we see as fans."

Applicable to any player we have out on loan, of which there are plenty. The point being ultimately it's Slades decision, right or wrong and he will be judged accordingly. If he wanted Jamey here he would be.

Very different to blaming slade for whatever this unknown situation is, if there really is one.  

Quoted from lowerfindus

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Applicable to any player we have out on loan, of which there are plenty. The point being ultimately it's Slades decision, right or wrong and he will be judged accordingly. If he wanted Jamey here he would be.

Very different to blaming slade for whatever this unknown situation is, if there really is one.  

Thanks for clarifying!

Isnt Clements due back next week? transport sorted potentially?

Isnt Clements due back next week? transport sorted potentially?

from the Barrow forum. says a lot for us when clem and yusef cant even make match day squad

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Post  by DaveBarter » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:00 pm

Giggaboom wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:55 pm
DaveBarter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:26 pm
Not making the 16 Bauress, Yussuf, Bignot, Clements, Audel or Fitzpatrick.
Boxing Day in mind perhaps
Yeah making full use of the squad, although Clements may not be used - he seems to be out of favour these days and isn't likely to have the loan extended I feel.

This may be of no relevance but -

I saw slade lick Jamey’s left hand, he then stroked it and poured salt on it and squirted a lemon in his right eye.

I’ve never witness such an act before so don’t know if it’s just a mating ritual in the swashy or a normal act between an older guy with his apprentice. They looked friendly with each other though so I don’t think there’s been a fall out.

Possibly he isn't 110% yet? We could do with him right now...

Very unlikely to play for us again. Only thing I’ve heard is that he allegedly doesn’t want to be here.

If he doesn't want to play for us let's move on! There are several thousand footballers better than him on the planet, I know not many of them are at BP at the moment, but I bet a few of them would like to be so let's find them!

What a uncomfortable situation all round.

Slade does know how good he is and would clearly love him to be back here he is giving him plenty of time to make his mind up.

Ultimately it's up to Jamie whether he want's to play for us he was offered and signed a long contract he also stated to the fans he would see us all after Christmas.

A player of obvious ability as the chance to not only play for us but climb to an even higher level in the future.

I just hope it is not another Butler situation and earlier still Gorden Hobson both did a runner.

Slade as to look at the big picture and concentrate on beating Accrington first and foremost.

Quoted from GrimRob

If he doesn't want to play for us let's move on! There are several thousand footballers better than him on the planet, I know not many of them are at BP at the moment, but I bet a few of them would like to be so let's find them!

Agreed..... ironically  Solihull have a sell on clause don't they.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Agreed..... ironically  Solihull have a sell on clause don't they.

I doubt he has massive market value at the moment

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He got a 2 1/2 year deal, he should have moved to the area. There is no way we should've signed players on long contracts who weren't willing to move to within an hour of the area.

The "Buckley Rule".  Quite right too.

If he has transport issues, then surely he can stay here Tuesday to Saturday and be chauffeured back to his home.  Now if it were that simple, it would surely have happened already, so there's probably more to it.

Will be interesting to see what comes out of this in the end.  Probably a 1am statement to come!

Potentially a very good player at Div 4 level but the same rules apply to all , if he doesn't want to be here and he doesn't want to honour the contract he signed, then we're better off without him.

Hot off the press:

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Quoted from LH

Hot off the press:

[tweet]946502083133497344[/tweet]

Not exactly what you want to hear. I would like to hear him saying that he wants to win a starting place for the team he's contracted to.

Quoted from LH

Hot off the press:

[tweet]946502083133497344[/tweet]

If he “is not needed” would that suggest he’s on the disposals list in the window?

Hope not to be honest

The “not needed at this moment in time” is an odd line.

Why do people automatically assume that “personal issues” are to do with family?

To be honest , if i was told i was not needed when the likes of woolford , hooper etc are getting game time , i would either poke slade in the eye and drag him to specksavers,, or hang me boots up for good

Tin pot player who can’t take being away from home boo fookin hoo . Get rid and spend his wages on someone who wants to play or give a player like Clifton a run who would swim across a crocodile infested river to get to a game .

Not needed at this moment in time how utterly bizarre.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Not needed at this moment in time how utterly bizarre.

"Not needed at this moment in time due to personal circumstances." puts it into the correct context so something else is a big issue here.

Its not a club any more its a circus  , run from top to bottom my clowns.   Have you read this Mr Fenty,, what the hell have you hired as a manager.. He is prob the best midfielder at the club and he is not needed ,, god help us all

I was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt while this was a "fitness loan", but "if I'm not needed" and "immediate recall option" say to me that he's either not wanted by the management and they're looking to minimise wage outlay while they try to sell him on, or that this is now not a "fitness loan" but a "disciplinary loan" designed to keep him saleable because he hasn't shown the requisite attitude or off-field discipline to be able to put himself in the frame for selection.  

You could pick apart all of these phrases for hidden meaning.  "If I'm not needed" could mean "Since you've no damn intention of picking me, Slades you big hoofball merchant." or it could mean "I need to be here with my family all week, but can come back to play if you have a sudden injury crisis".

"Personal reasons" can cover a multitude of things so I hope his situation is resolved soon.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Tin pot player who can’t take being away from home boo fookin hoo . Get rid and spend his wages on someone who wants to play or give a player like Clifton a run who would swim across a crocodile infested river to get to a game .

You know that's not gonna happen either.

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

I was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt while this was a "fitness loan", but "if I'm not needed" and "immediate recall option" say to me that he's either not wanted by the management and they're looking to minimise wage outlay while they try to sell him on, or that this is now not a "fitness loan" but a "disciplinary loan" designed to keep him saleable because he hasn't shown the requisite attitude or off-field discipline to be able to put himself in the frame for selection.  

You could pick apart all of these phrases for hidden meaning.  "If I'm not needed" could mean "Since you've no damn intention of picking me, Slades you big hoofball merchant." or it could mean "I need to be here with my family all week, but can come back to play if you have a sudden injury crisis".

"Personal reasons" can cover a multitude of things so I hope his situation is resolved soon.

Probably a bit of both. I read it as 'if I'm flogging a dead horse and you're not gonna put me in the squad why am I going to flog myself up and down the motorways or be away from home.' And as Herts said, if he's got a decent job, part-time football close to family and friends might be economically and socially more inviting than 4th division football.

Maybe the "Shin splints" thing became more of an issue when he went full time with us.

Just saying.

Perhaps Kingston, though I find it hard to believe he's moonlighting at the moment and I'm not aware that he has a profession or trade to take up on the side in any event.

If I had to come down on one of the scenarios, I'm inclined to think that he's got a personal or family situation that needs attention, and that the "If needed" statement refers to one-off games such as if we were to have an injury and red-card epidemic and need him for a game, then he'd come back for a few days.  

We've seen from other players (Matt, Clements, Browne) that players do often need time near family so in the context of a two and a half year deal, I hope he'll be back and ready to reward the club's support for him.

For over a year now and possibly a lot longer there have been lies and lies and more lies and when G.T. come out to dispel these lies there are more lies. There is hardly any information coming out of B.P. to inform the supporters of what is going on. If they made TRUTHFUL statements every now and again Grimsby Town would be a happier place and this would most likely travel onto the pitch

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Probably a bit of both. I read it as 'if I'm flogging a dead horse and you're not gonna put me in the squad why am I going to flog myself up and down the motorways or be away from home.' And as Herts said, if he's got a decent job, part-time football close to family and friends might be economically and socially more inviting than 4th division football.

Just playing devil's advocate but he is under contract. If every contracted player who wasn't currently getting a game decided to nick off to play for their local team because it suited their travel perogatives, then we might as well just pay every hired kicker week to week or take 'em on monthly loans, and then where would we be?
If Jamey Osborne isn't good enough to get in our first team match day squad then I clearly don't understand football, so the club and the player have confused me.

Quoted from denni266

To be honest , if i was told i was not needed when the likes of woolford , hooper etc are getting game time , i would either poke slade in the eye and drag him to specksavers,, or hang me boots up for good

Quoted from chaos33

Just playing devil's advocate but he is under contract. If every contracted player who wasn't currently getting a game decided to nick off to play for their local team because it suited their travel perogatives, then we might as well just pay every hired kicker week to week or take 'em on monthly loans, and then where would we be?
If Jamey Osborne isn't good enough to get in our first team match day squad then I clearly don't understand football, so the club and the player have confused me.

I'm not saying I'd be pleased about it. Just if he thought there was no hope under Slade of getting game time, and he had other options which paid as much/more AND meant he had more time for friends and family, then I can see why he might take them.

Quoted from chaos33

Just playing devil's advocate but he is under contract. If every contracted player who wasn't currently getting a game decided to nick off to play for their local team because it suited their travel perogatives, then we might as well just pay every hired kicker week to week or take 'em on monthly loans, and then where would we be?

Quite. And he's got a 30 month contract to be professional footballer. He shouldn't have another job!

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

Perhaps Kingston, though I find it hard to believe he's moonlighting at the moment and I'm not aware that he has a profession or trade to take up on the side in any event.

If I had to come down on one of the scenarios, I'm inclined to think that he's got a personal or family situation that needs attention, and that the "If needed" statement refers to one-off games such as if we were to have an injury and red-card epidemic and need him for a game, then he'd come back for a few days.  

We've seen from other players (Matt, Clements, Browne) that players do often need time near family so in the context of a two and a half year deal, I hope he'll be back and ready to reward the club's support for him.

I wasn't suggesting he's moonlighting, just that non-League players can often be better off staying part-time if they had decent day job options.

It's a good point you make about one-off games. And you can add Nathan to that list.

Sometimes, real life includes all of those options. Dissatisfaction with the way the job's going, not getting on with your new boss (not the guy who recruited you), work commitments which impinge on family life, and the serious ill health of a family member. It might cause you to decide that you're better off out of it and return to a previous employer.

We're all just speculating really.

I think we can probably assume that the club are happy to do without him presently, or he'd be back here after his 'fitness loan', fighting for his place and honouring his commitment as per the contract he signed. Obviously, if he can negotiate something more personally convenient whilst in the midsts of that because the club don't see him as immediately valuable, then he will.

Quoted from chaos33

I think we can probably assume that the club are happy to do without him presently,

Which is bonkers considering Woolford started the last game. But there you go!

My thoughts exactly

Quoted from chaos33

My thoughts exactly

Maybe you can see why Osborne might be drunk off then (if he is, just speculating like).

Before he went to Solihull he was beginning to feature from the bench and making the squads.
Why is he not fighting for his place in league football?
Seems very strange to me, reading between the lines I find it difficult to blame the club for this one. It strikes me that he has never fully committed to us having not moved. He's got all the ability to play at a much higher level and I'd love to see him in our team, but I think either he wants away or the club want to shift his wages or something they don't like about him.

Of course because he was getting MOM every week and being watched by other league clubs in the Midlands, he may have been tapped up and he favours being nearer to home.
IMO Town have to be a bit wary here and take advantage of any offers for him made during the transfer window, hence the extra months Loan

Also hence the immediate recall. Any offer comes in then we can recall him and sell him on immediately.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Yes completely agree, but don't forget he was signed by a deluded tw@t who wanted to prove he could bring more "technical ability" into the club as he wasn't to keen on the honest, hardworking pro's he inherited...................he's currently making the same fcuk up's at Chester BTW Oddly enough out of all the players Bignot brought in only Jones remains available for this Saturday's game if memory serves me right.

and yet the Club still sits in pretty much the same position in the table as they did when the "deluded tw@t who wanted to prove he could bring more "technical ability" into the club as he wasn't to keen on the honest, hardworking pro's he inherited" was in charge.

I'm guessing that makes Slade a "deluded tw@t" too but just one who doesn't like skillful players just players that can hoof the ball and run a round a lot.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Also hence the immediate recall. Any offer comes in then we can recall him and sell him on immediately.

Isn’t there a rule that a player can’t play for more than two clubs in a season?

Quoted from MarinerMal

and yet the Club still sits in pretty much the same position in the table as they did when the "deluded tw@t who wanted to prove he could bring more "technical ability" into the club as he wasn't to keen on the honest, hardworking pro's he inherited" was in charge.

I'm guessing that makes Slade a "deluded tw@t" too but just one who doesn't like skillful players just players that can hoof the ball and run a round a lot.

Who signed Dembele?

Have to say I’m disappointed, our bench options against Mansfield were very poor. At least having Jamie on the bench would be an improvement. Also can’t understand why cardwell isn’t being given a chance from the bench, in the brief glimpses I’ve seen of him he’s looked better than hooper and vernon.