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Don't be a c*nt then you single minded, selfish, nimby, stupid twit WAnchor

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I don't see how noise from the stadium has to be an issue; modern concave stadium roofs can be designed to reflect crowd noise without noise escaping, this is something the club and the architects should be looking into.


I haven't been yet but I understand on good authority that Chesterfield's new grounds planning permission was awarded on the basis of the design of the new stadium inhibiting noise. The nearest houses are I believe less than 200 metres away.
A conservative estimate puts the nearest current houses 800 metres from the perimeter of the P.P. development.


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I haven't been yet but I understand on good authority that Chesterfield's new grounds planning permission was awarded on the basis of the design of the new stadium inhibiting noise. The nearest houses are I believe less than 200 metres away.
A conservative estimate puts the nearest current houses 800 metres from the perimeter of the P.P. development.


Does that mean we can have the drum at night games ??  


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I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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What you have to accept is that this town is an insignificant backwatert.


WUM or not, this is sums up perfectly what is wrong with the area and the mentality of people who complain about anything positive that may happen in the area.

"Can't do nothing, don't try." Should really be the town's motto


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WUM or not, this is sums up perfectly what is wrong with the area and the mentality of people who complain about anything positive that may happen in the area.

"Can't do nothing, don't try." Should really be the town's motto


Sadly I don't think it is a WUM I genuinely think this person is ADF due to the fact he never answers any question posed.
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Hasn't anyone realised yet that the Parkway was chosen not because it is the best for any reason whatsoever if you look at it logically, it is actually the worst option in many ways?  But the council cannot be @rsed to go through the planning hassle of any other site or to find somebody with the money to build it.

So knowing that desperate supporters will accept anything bright shiny and new with toilets that don't smell and a decent microwave for the pies, they offer up the ludicrously unsuitable Parkway site as a sop. And, lo and behold, off we go again in the Desperation Stakes with the first prize being a great lump of concrete somewhere that makes no sense. But we MUST HAVE IT they say. Otherwise we look as though we don't care, can't be bothered and will sink back into the C19th backwaters. Our kids will all have rickets from lack of exercise and we shall have to re-sign Tommy Briggs to lead the line.

According to today's GT we are in fact destined soon to see massive offshore investment off Lincolnshire and based from Grimsby. There is a vague possibility here that the economy of the town might be on the up in a few years. Then people really will start to wonder why on earth did we move from a football ground surrounded by houses that clogs up the main road into a football ground surrounded by houses clogging up a main road when we could have got investment to have an even better stadium in our perfect location.

I don't live anywhere near the Parkway thank goodness so I'm definitely no nimby on this. Nor am I a Luddite and anti-progress. Simply this - the all round logic surrounding the Parkway project has always seemed to me absolutely crackers.

There is no new stadium built anywhere in the last few years that has been designed and constructed slap bang in the middle of a residential area with no dedicated traffic arrangement. Find at least one please somebody .... otherwise, the first time away supporters come to visit and crawl their way to and from the Parkway, Grimsby becomes a laughing stock again.


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According to a few websites I have looked at your house price has risen since the project was announced, this with research nationally that tends to suggest house prices near a new football ground tend to increase after the development contradicts your thoughts.
What facts do you base your theory that the price will drop ?

The site below shows all the post codes around PP have had a rise in the last 6 months (the link below is Weelsby Ave)

https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/houseprices/dn320ah


Haven't house prices risen across the board in the UK irrespective of whether they are near a football ground or not?
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Haven't house prices risen across the board in the UK irrespective of whether they are near a football ground or not?


yes they probably have and I would think that's why these houses have gone up in price, my point is though that to say the development has reduced their house prices is incorrect as they seem to as stable as any other area of town.
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Hasn't anyone realised yet that the Parkway was chosen not because it is the best for any reason whatsoever if you look at it logically, it is actually the worst option in many ways?  But the council cannot be @rsed to go through the planning hassle of any other site or to find somebody with the money to build it.

So knowing that desperate supporters will accept anything bright shiny and new with toilets that don't smell and a decent microwave for the pies, they offer up the ludicrously unsuitable Parkway site as a sop. And, lo and behold, off we go again in the Desperation Stakes with the first prize being a great lump of concrete somewhere that makes no sense. But we MUST HAVE IT they say. Otherwise we look as though we don't care, can't be bothered and will sink back into the C19th backwaters. Our kids will all have rickets from lack of exercise and we shall have to re-sign Tommy Briggs to lead the line.

According to today's GT we are in fact destined soon to see massive offshore investment off Lincolnshire and based from Grimsby. There is a vague possibility here that the economy of the town might be on the up in a few years. Then people really will start to wonder why on earth did we move from a football ground surrounded by houses that clogs up the main road into a football ground surrounded by houses clogging up a main road when we could have got investment to have an even better stadium in our perfect location.

I don't live anywhere near the Parkway thank goodness so I'm definitely no nimby on this. Nor am I a Luddite and anti-progress. Simply this - the all round logic surrounding the Parkway project has always seemed to me absolutely crackers.

There is no new stadium built anywhere in the last few years that has been designed and constructed slap bang in the middle of a residential area with no dedicated traffic arrangement. Find at least one please somebody .... otherwise, the first time away supporters come to visit and crawl their way to and from the Parkway, Grimsby becomes a laughing stock again.


I actually think it is the BEST site.

I dont understand the view that the Docks or Freemo  would be better? In what way? Traffic issues would be certainly no better than we have at present and were is the parking space?

Garth Lane? I would much rather the Old Grannary/Tap and Spile were preserved, not knocked down in favour of a sparkly new stadium.

Much better for the new homes/stadia and facilities to be built along the parkway giving the Town a new focal point whilst we try and preserve our heritage at the Docks.


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I actually think it is the BEST site.

I dont understand the view that the Docks or Freemo  would be better? In what way? Traffic issues would be certainly no better than we have at present and were is the parking space?

Garth Lane? I would much rather the Old Grannary/Tap and Spile were preserved, not knocked down in favour of a sparkly new stadium.

Much better for the new homes/stadia and facilities to be built along the parkway giving the Town a new focal point whilst we try and preserve our heritage at the Docks.




I'm not coming out in favour of any site today thanks but I definitely come out against the Parkway because it is a waste of everyone's time and money. New focal point? How is this a focal point any more than Morrisons is at Laceby Acres, Tesco at Waltham, the Ice House in Victor Street, Victoria Mills ..... ?

The only focal point will be a bloody great big housing estate to the south of the town, that's what will clog the traffic. Then, on top of that, you add the stadium traffic, the "community use" traffic, the Uncle Tom Cobley and all traffic.  We might as well call Nunsthorpe a focal point and build the ground next to the hospital.

The truth is that supporters are desperate and vocal and this is a fob off. The council know nothing will or can happen for ages yet and they may get let off the hook when the planning comes unstuck. It's a political fudge. But .... you never know, it just might happen that some fairy goddeveloper from house builders heaven might come along and turn the council pumpkin into a nice Halloween lantern but he'll run off before the candles go out.


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