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I'm not coming out in favour of any site today thanks but I definitely come out against the Parkway because it is a waste of everyone's time and money. New focal point? How is this a focal point any more than Morrisons is at Laceby Acres, Tesco at Waltham, the Ice House in Victor Street, Victoria Mills ..... ?
The only focal point will be a bloody great big housing estate to the south of the town, that's what will clog the traffic. Then, on top of that, you add the stadium traffic, the "community use" traffic, the Uncle Tom Cobley and all traffic. We might as well call Nunsthorpe a focal point and build the ground next to the hospital.
The truth is that supporters are desperate and vocal and this is a fob off. The council know nothing will or can happen for ages yet and they may get let off the hook when the planning comes unstuck. It's a political fudge. But .... you never know, it just might happen that some fairy goddeveloper from house builders heaven might come along and turn the council pumpkin into a nice Halloween lantern but he'll run off before the candles go out.
It is your opinion, mind is different.
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September 6, 2016, 2:18pm |
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I've read the thread from top to bottom and see many peoples points . Surely instead of abusive remarks from both sides a plan to move forward as one would be the solution . That's in reference to people at the top aswell not just on The Fishy . I'm nor for or against Peaks Parkway as I don't live in the area anymore but plain and simple want a new ground ASAP (After 20 years of false dawns) , but understand the concerns of residents on certain issues and don't think they should be labelled 'nimbys' purely on the fact they have objections . Not sure why this meeting happened though as the ground isn't even a goer yet , like it hasn't been for the last 20 years so surely just a waste of people's time and energy arguing something that may or may not happen . If and when Peaks Parkway does get the go ahead , then will be the time for all parties to get together , sit down and draw up a plan how problems can be negated and discuss how the project can be the huge positive for the town it ought to be . Just another point there's still many clubs along with town who have been fighting for new stadiums , and for a similiar length of time - Luton , Bristol Rovers ,Southend Utd to name a few . We are not the only ones , but I do believe for our club to reach its full potential we need that new stadium , and the momentum it would bring . UTM Fox
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September 6, 2016, 2:55pm |
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yes they probably have and I would think that's why these houses have gone up in price, my point is though that to say the development has reduced their house prices is incorrect as they seem to as stable as any other area of town.
I don't think there is any probably about it, as for prices being affected by "the development" yet, I would have to say what development, I still think this is all pie in the sky until I see the diggers start digging out for the footings.
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September 6, 2016, 3:47pm |
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I remember watching a tv series on planning a year or so ago - it sounds dull but it was actually really interesting.
In that the actual planning department listened to everything positive and negative but to have any real impact they had to have a genuine 'planning' issue, for example 'it will spoil my view' or 'it will affect my house price' didn't have any real impact to their decision. Anything like traffic/environmental impact was passed to a specialist to compile a report. A lot of the housing cases came down to 'we don't like it but we need more houses'
However, any particularly emotive decisions - which this undoubtably is, went to a select group of councillors to decide, in the programme their decisions were a little more arbitrary and where clearly much more politically focused, unpopular developments where rejected popular ones where passed often with little regard for the planners advice. However, these decisions were often challenged and approved at appeal, I may be wrong but I also seem to think the council was fined or at least incurred costs if it was decided that it had declined a valid application for political reasons.
I can see why people are upset about the development, if it was opposite me I'm not sure how I'd feel, probably not too chuffed as I live in a village near Doncaster although the commute to home games would be a little easier. In Doncaster theirs much more development than in Grimsby, my village has probably doubled in size in 10 years and there's huge housing and commercial developments in Doncaster itself, the council seem to be able to approve things much quicker than n e Lincs council and are much more concerned with bringing in jobs, in the past few years they have built new sites for ikea, Amazon, BT, BMW as well as totally redeveloping the Frenchgate centre and the council offices themselves. I can't really think of any successful development projects in gy for years? Meridian park? Europarc is probably the only one.
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September 6, 2016, 4:16pm |
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Lincoln have started building a new £30m bus station/transport hub.
We move bus shelters.
Says it a ll really
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September 6, 2016, 5:31pm |
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I'm moving to the Park Ward in the hope that I will be within walking distance to the new ground. This ground and development will be so beneficial to the local community. UTM
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September 6, 2016, 6:23pm |
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Where is Park Ward exactly? Can't seem to find a clear map of local wards.
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Mariner Ronnie |
September 6, 2016, 6:39pm |
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Where is Park Ward exactly? Can't seem to find a clear map of local wards.
Best way to describe it is within, scartho road, weelsby road and peaks parkway.
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September 6, 2016, 6:55pm |
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Best way to describe it is within, scartho road, weelsby road and peaks parkway.
Cheers. Does it include Scartho Top housing development?
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September 6, 2016, 6:58pm |
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Stretches to Littlefield Lane. Scartho Top is under Scartho.
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