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9th place.
Says it all really.
Short n sweet
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Blimey....
Let me just pose this.....
I fancy that a fairly large proportion of those that still back Hurst are only just able to do so, and many are seemingly just about out of patience if you read several of their apparently candid posts on here.
I'm intrigued to know how things might look given the very distinct possibity that we fail to beat Barrow next week. There is a narrative behind the current 50/50 stats on the poll.
It's funny really because I'm naturally conservative with a small 'c' but it would seem clearly evident that many want to persist with Hurst out of fear of the alternative (don't believe in the board's ability to appoint a capable successor, don't believe there's a better manager available, don't believe that key players will stay and play for a new man etc..). Now, this is hardly a ringing endorsement for Hurst. It's more about fear of the unknown.
Paul Hurst has been here a long time. He's had astonishing backing in terms of resource and fan support. We can go on and on indefinitely getting into the play off picture and that's alright for some, but there are very clearly established patterns in terms of shortcomings and they can't be denied.
I'm behind him and the team as long as he's here and on match day, BUT, IMO he was lucky to be retained at the end of the 2013/14 season (I felt he should have gone then), had another shot and failed in the play offs last year (albeit very unluckily) and is almost half way through yet another shot at promotion looking nowhere near a title winning side, and the current stats can't be opposed.
This club needs promotion, but its ambitions are inhibited by fear and the acceptance of the second rate.
Could not agree more.
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November 2, 2015, 10:07pm |
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Blimey....
Let me just pose this.....
I fancy that a fairly large proportion of those that still back Hurst are only just able to do so, and many are seemingly just about out of patience if you read several of their apparently candid posts on here.
I'm intrigued to know how things might look given the very distinct possibity that we fail to beat Barrow next week. There is a narrative behind the current 50/50 stats on the poll.
It's funny really because I'm naturally conservative with a small 'c' but it would seem clearly evident that many want to persist with Hurst out of fear of the alternative (don't believe in the board's ability to appoint a capable successor, don't believe there's a better manager available, don't believe that key players will stay and play for a new man etc..). Now, this is hardly a ringing endorsement for Hurst. It's more about fear of the unknown.
Paul Hurst has been here a long time. He's had astonishing backing in terms of resource and fan support. We can go on and on indefinitely getting into the play off picture and that's alright for some, but there are very clearly established patterns in terms of shortcomings and they can't be denied.
I'm behind him and the team as long as he's here and on match day, BUT, IMO he was lucky to be retained at the end of the 2013/14 season (I felt he should have gone then), had another shot and failed in the play offs last year (albeit very unluckily) and is almost half way through yet another shot at promotion looking nowhere near a title winning side, and the current stats can't be opposed.
This club needs promotion, but its ambitions are inhibited by fear and the acceptance of the second rate.
Nail meet head.
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November 2, 2015, 10:21pm |
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9th place.
Says it all really.
Aww if only you'd said earlier you could have saved everyone from writing some very well constructed posts...
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jonnyboy82 |
November 2, 2015, 10:25pm |
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Never mind barra.
Sometimes its just better to get to the point.
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barralad |
November 2, 2015, 10:30pm |
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Never mind barra.
Sometimes its just better to get to the point.
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Some really good points being made and I think its fair to say many of those in the 'Hurst In' camp are less in it than previously.
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November 2, 2015, 11:37pm |
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I see there's one vote happy with mid table, would that be PH or JF.
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If there was an award for "Thread of the Year" this would win its hands down. Regardless of which side of the fence you are on there are some brilliant contributions from both sides.
Proper debate. (It will never catch on...)
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Blimey....
Let me just pose this.....
I fancy that a fairly large proportion of those that still back Hurst are only just able to do so, and many are seemingly just about out of patience if you read several of their apparently candid posts on here.
I'm intrigued to know how things might look given the very distinct possibity that we fail to beat Barrow next week. There is a narrative behind the current 50/50 stats on the poll.
It's funny really because I'm naturally conservative with a small 'c' but it would seem clearly evident that many want to persist with Hurst out of fear of the alternative (don't believe in the board's ability to appoint a capable successor, don't believe there's a better manager available, don't believe that key players will stay and play for a new man etc..). Now, this is hardly a ringing endorsement for Hurst. It's more about fear of the unknown.
Paul Hurst has been here a long time. He's had astonishing backing in terms of resource and fan support. We can go on and on indefinitely getting into the play off picture and that's alright for some, but there are very clearly established patterns in terms of shortcomings and they can't be denied.
I'm behind him and the team as long as he's here and on match day, BUT, IMO he was lucky to be retained at the end of the 2013/14 season (I felt he should have gone then), had another shot and failed in the play offs last year (albeit very unluckily) and is almost half way through yet another shot at promotion looking nowhere near a title winning side, and the current stats can't be opposed.
This club needs promotion, but its ambitions are inhibited by fear and the acceptance of the second rate.
Great post says and explains it all IMO, I am one of the Hurst in voters and have always entertained the thought of what if we change manager now scenario fear, but over the last few weeks I am finding that my support for him has weakend to such an extent that fear now has turned to expectation and a little excitement
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