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ginnywings
November 1, 2015, 12:45pm

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I don't see how you can disagree with the first part! The hardened GTFC populous is probably 2,500 to 3,000 fans. Now compare this to The Fishy members who will vote and you will see how accurate the initial statement was.


I disagree because it's not true. You have absolutely no idea how many of those 3 thousand want a change of manager. You are implying that only people on the fishy want a change but everyone i speak to wants it and none of them use the fishy. It's certainly not a tiny minority for sure.
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November 1, 2015, 1:05pm

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Well they're certainly not in slightest bit vocal at matches home or away - usually long in the buildup long before the board make such a call there is incessant booing, heckling and "Hurst out!", "Sack the board" chanting.

I still sense a patience and underlying belief as the 5150 home fans on Friday night for a televised game where there would be family Halloween parties galore proved
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I disagree because it's not true. You have absolutely no idea how many of those 3 thousand want a change of manager. You are implying that only people on the fishy want a change but everyone i speak to wants it and none of them use the fishy. It's certainly not a tiny minority for sure.


this, i am experiencing the same thing from fans i know ,with only one of them being a forum member .
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November 1, 2015, 1:51pm

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The thing is I am still undecided,

I am not sure if Hurst will take us up,

BUT

Unless I know who will replace him , I will stick with him for now,

I just want him to be a little bit more adventuress ,

He always seems he is happy with a draw when we could have gone on and won,

Out of the 9 games we have drawn  if we had W 3  D3  L3,

We would have 12 pts from those games instead of 9pts,

So its worth going for the win even if you lose the odd game.


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November 1, 2015, 2:19pm

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Well they're certainly not in slightest bit vocal at matches home or away - usually long in the buildup long before the board make such a call there is incessant booing, heckling and "Hurst out!", "Sack the board" chanting.

I still sense a patience and underlying belief as the 5150 home fans on Friday night for a televised game where there would be family Halloween parties galore proved


I would be quite happy for Hurst to go. So would the majority of people I know (I'm only counting the ones that actually go). But NOT ONE of us boo's as far as I know. This board is my means of expressing discontent. If it gets to the stage I do that at games, I will just stay away. The fact that the crowd are not chanting for change doesn't mean they are happy at the moment. In contrast with Barra and one or two others, I feel this board is a fairly accurate representation of feelings overall. Maybe we move in different social circles !!


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Well they're certainly not in slightest bit vocal at matches home or away - usually long in the buildup long before the board make such a call there is incessant booing, heckling and "Hurst out!", "Sack the board" chanting.

I still sense a patience and underlying belief as the 5150 home fans on Friday night for a televised game where there would be family Halloween parties galore proved


I agree. You usually know when a manager is on his last legs, and some home matches can become unpleasant just before the axe falls (usually a trigger for the board to act)

This clearly is not the case here; over 5000 home fans (more than we got in the Championship most weeks) and not the slightest hint of any orchestrated ill feeling towards the manager.

Most people I know are still angry at how the club was allowed to fall so low, but appreciate 100% that Hurst is not part of that debacle and is doing all he can to put it right, and to get a 5k attendance on a Friday night shows he has plenty of support.

Sadly we don't have the biggest budget, and although we have better players than previous years they are still non league players for a reason so we are not going to be totally consistent or win every game.

Add to that the fact the "board" wouldn't have a clue on who to appoint if he was sacked then it seems sensible to let Hurst have the remainder of this season to get us up. Play offs are obviously a minimum, and failure to get into them will cost him his job.    
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Well fair play to the discontented portion for not bringing a poisonous vitriol to the match day experience. We all want Town promoted and that just breeds negativity which snowballs and spreads into the dressing room. Yes they then get what they want but at the detriment of points on the board here and now no doubt.

We've had too many years of a cursed cloud of negativity at the Park, yes people's frustrations are understandable but the present incumbents not the ones responsible and they can only work with what we've got now. I'm just glad most seem to have grasped this now and watching Town has become for the most part enjoyable again. It really does put me on edge to have naysayers all around me spitting expletives at the players, they hear and look over towards me. It's not a nice feeling and not conducive to togetherness or them wanting to give their all for us.

The rapport between the players and fans has made being a Town fan the best since the days of Livvo et al, I'm loving it all despite the division. Yes it's embarrassing in the banter stakes with outsiders but who can say that say Harrogate in the FA Cup preliminary was not a fantastic day out?

It's not an acceptance of mediocrity, it's an acceptance of what is, here and now. This is where we're at -budget, standard of players willing to come to us etc etc. Enjoying the moment but striving to build for a better future.
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I would be quite happy for Hurst to go. So would the majority of people I know (I'm only counting the ones that actually go). But NOT ONE of us boo's as far as I know. This board is my means of expressing discontent. If it gets to the stage I do that at games, I will just stay away. The fact that the crowd are not chanting for change doesn't mean they are happy at the moment. In contrast with Barra and one or two others, I feel this board is a fairly accurate representation of feelings overall. Maybe we move in different social circles !!


Just before I replied I looked at the "score". 34 to 29 in favour of him going which is hardly the huge majority that you'd expect given the anecdotal evidence presented. As for this board being a true representation of the feelings of the fan base as a whole there are a dozen or so people who post very regularly who don't rate Hurst. Nowt wrong with that expression of opinion whether it's agreed with by others or not. The problem comes when you assume that the number of posts made isnt unduly skewed by that input. The unassailable fact is that despite a comparatively large number of members the regular posters form a tiny fraction of GTFC fanbase from whichever side of the debate they come.



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I for what it is worth feel that Paul Hurst is a very capable and professional managers, well respected throughout the game,but can he motivate his players to run through walls for him?

I think that is where he is lacking and that is the dividing line between champions and also rans.


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It seems a lot of the staunchly pro-Hurst brigade are hacked off at certain things and on the waiver. I'd call myself one too. I still advocate sticking with our man but the lack of fulfilment of the potential of this squad is galling.

All the time it's IF this had of just happened, or in three games time we COULD be here etc. We need that elusive winning streak, Hursts teams have always done it before but we're limping along unable to find that next gear at the minute. And this is the best squad we've ever had at this level so thats worrying.

It appears harsh moaning when we in the mix up there but with our best ever squad and one of the weakest ever leagues many are pulling their hair out at our inability to grasp the nettle and claim that holy grail.

We should be laying down a marker, making clear our intentions etc but it's not forthcoming at present.

It's true I feel that Hurst sets up conservatively and that is not the way to maximise the players at our disposal. Unfortunately he seems a bit of a one - trick pony -we gotta have a Shop character up front and doesn't seem to know another way.  We should have a Plan B and C pre-drilled into the squad that we can turn to at a flick of a switch but it just seems if the original plan doesn't work or the opposition counteract our strengths we just become void of ideas and instantly blunted.

I don't bloody know the answer, im just a punter along for the ride. I do know however that after all our previous the thought of turmoil and upheaval sends chills down my spine and conjures thoughts of a couple seasons (all the while in this god forsaken league of course) rebuilding.

But could it be a case of he who dares? Unfortunately none of us are armed with hindsight. Both paths could bring unimaginable joy or downright despair. At least the Hurst path has little possibility or sailing into stormy seas or worst case utter anihilation! Mind numbing still waters maybe  
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