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Grim74
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450,000. That's the entire population of the UK isn't it?


Erm..... I think you have missed the point!  BBC are willing to publicise similar petition numbers only if it's in line with there liberal lefty biased agenda!


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Which is why the head of BBC News, James Harding, is a former editor of The Times (where he was an ardent critic of the BBC), former BBC Political Correspondent Nick Robinson (who now presents Today) was former head of the Conservative Association at University and later President of the Conservative Party Youth Group and Andrew Neil, who presents the Daily Politics is a former Conservative Party employee as well as former editor of the Sunday Times. Breathtaking left-wing bias there, I'm sure you'll agree.  

Kuenssberg is boldly carrying on Robinson's traditions since she took over his job by the looks of things as well, arranging resignations of Shadow Cabinet members on air, shortly before PMQs. Note the timing of this resignation allowed Cameron to attack Corbyn in PMQs and helped to shift attention away from more of their failures in government which are manifold. I'm still amazed they can get away with such hopeless performance with such little comeback.

The rank and file at the BBC may well be generally liberal in their outlook, but the people steering the news agenda certainly aren't.

Don't get me wrong, the quality of most of the current characters in the Labour Party is less than impressive following the 'New Labour' era which hollowed out most of the party (many of the Shadow Ministers in particular are bloody hopeless!), but the appallingly incompetent government seems to get away with their failings with little criticism in comparison to the round the clock attacks on Corbyn & Co. Remember back to when Cameron took over as leader of the Conservative Party? They literally didn't have any policies or any kind of a manifesto for well over a year and this passed without any comment! On the other hand, since Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party, he's been endlessly attacked for not having a bullet-proof manifesto in place within a few months.

That said, the idea of building Trident submarines without having warheads to put into them was a bloody ridiculous idea to float, so to speak. Wasting that much money on Trident is bloody stupid in itself without having a useful product at the end of it.


Some names you conveniently missed-

James Mark Dakin Purnell is the Director of Strategy and Digital at the BBC being appointed to the post in February 2013. He was a British Labour Party politician, as the Member of Parliament for Stalybridge and Hyde (MP) from 2001 to 2010 general elections and served as Secretary of State for Work and Pensions and Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport from 2007 to 2009.

Danny Cohen former Director of BBC Television until 2015,  One of the first things he said when he took charge of BBC1 was that its comedy was too middle class. Recently he banned all-male panels on comedy panel shows. He agrees with “comedian” Lenny Henry that there should be more “diversity” on television. In February 2014 he claimed there were too many white people in the content and its shows would include more blacks and homosexuals “to reflect modern Britain”.

Ian Katz is the editor of the Newsnight current affairs programme on BBC Two. Earlier Katz followed a career in print journalism, and was deputy editor of The Guardian until 2013.

Allegra Stratton former political editor of BBC Two’s Newsnight programme until 2015.
Previously she was political correspondent at The Guardian, presenting the newspaper’s “Politics Weekly” podcast with Tom Clark.

Kirsty Wark the Newsnight journalist is very close to Labour. Donald Dewar, Scottish Labour politician and former First Minister of Scotland, a personal friend. In January 2005, she invited Labour MSP Jack McConnell, then Scotland’s First Minister, and his family to stay at her Majorcan holiday home over the New Year period.

Sandra Birgitte “Sandi” Toksvig  is a Danish-British writer, presenter and “comedian”. She said on BBC Radio 4’s The News Quiz that the Conservative Party had “put the ‘N’ into cuts” to child benefit.  In April 2015, Toksvig chaired the first, informal, conference of the new Women’s Equality Party.

Jeremy James Hardy is a “comedian” who the BBC use a lot. Well known left winger who wrote a regular column for The Guardian until 2001. Bashes the bankers (falsely) at every opportunity.

Susan Grace Calman  is a Scottish “comedian” and panellist on BBC Radio 4 topical shows including The News Quiz and I Guess That’s Why They Call It The News. One she tweeted: “Premier travel inn in Birmingham is full of tories. I’m hiding in my room. Feel like Anne Frank.”

Owain Elis James is a Welsh “comedian” who appears in a whole range of BBC output. Tweeted: “We have given that girl private Cameron a mandate to be even more of a psycho , for the next five years. Oh Christ.”

Norman Smith became the Chief Political Correspondent of BBC News in 2011, and its Assistant Political Editor in 2014. Said on air in December: “When you sit down and read the OBR report it reads like a book of doom. It is utterly terrifying.” public spending would “have to be hacked back to the levels of the 1930s in terms of as a proportion of GDP and that is an extraordinary concept” and “You’re back to the land of The Road to Wigan Pier”.

Andrew William Stevenson Marr  Host of The Andrew Marr Show. Was a member of the Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory (an off-shoot of the International-Communist League, now known as the Alliance for Workers’ Liberty). At Cambridge he acquired the nickname ‘Red Andy’.  Writing in The Guardian, he said “It may be my Presbyterian background, but I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good”.

Mark Steel, socialist columnist, author and “comedian”. Was a long-standing member of the Socialist Workers Party before he resigned in 2007, he has made many appearances on BBC radio and television shows . He is perhaps best known for presenting The Mark Steel Lectures, The Mark Steel Revolution, The Mark Steel Solution, and Mark Steel’s in Town. In February 2013, Steel was among those who gave their support to the People’s Assembly in a letter published by The Guardian newspaper.

Russell Brand. Resigned from the BBC in 2008 following prank calls he made to actor Andrew Sachs on The Russell Brand Show. But still appears on the BBC a lot where he is given free reign to voice his extreme left wing views. In the run up to the election he dropped his anti-voting position and “declared the importance of voting”, backing Labour and telling his fans that “You gotta vote Labour”.

Stephen John “Steve” Coogan. “Comedian” who appears on many BBC programmes. Supports the Labour Party and believes that Conservatives think “people are plebs” and that “they like to pat people on the head”. A noted car enthusiast, he has had a succession of Ferraris. Gave evidence to the Leveson Inquiry on phone hacking, favouring regulation of the press.

Robert Webb. “Comedian” of Mitchell and Webb fame. Webb has stated that he is a supporter of the Labour Party, and rejoined it in 2013.

Josephine Grace “Jo” Brand. BBC stalwart; “comedian”, writer and actress.  Appeared on The Brain Drain, Getting On and various BBC appearances including as a regular guest on QI and Have I Got News for You. Backed Labour in a party election broadcast.

Obviously this is just a partial list and doesn’t include the thousands of producers, directors, editors and writers who make the BBC a hive of socialism. You don’t have to take my word for this, look at these quotes:
Peter Sissons, former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter: “By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. ­Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on ­running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.”

Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General: “In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher. Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”

Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator of Yes, (Prime) Minister: “I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.”
So there you have it. The BBC is a huge socialist propaganda outfit that harms Great Britain. It needs breaking up and selling off, be fools not to.

Finally leftism isn’t the only BBC bias. They are pro Israel and anti Palestine. They are pro MMGW warmists and stifle critical climate debate. They are very pro EU and vehemently against Brexit. They are greatly in favour of Scotland remaining in the Union. All this is wrong. The BBC are not a political party and should not behave like one.

And to finish off -
Roger Mosey, former head of BBC TV news, has written a book giving chapter and verse on the Corporation’s bias.



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I'm sure i could search Google and find plenty of articles that will support your left leaning bias theory of the BBC. I could equally find lots of articles that support the opposite view and probably some that there is no bias at all to either party. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your political persuasion and while things like this are being debated, the Tories can happily carry on bottom raping the country without scrutiny. That's just how they like it. If you believe the Tories are great, then fine, it's a democracy and you can believe what you want. I don't think your long rambling post on lefty comedians is going to sway anybody one way or the other.
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Of course there is a left wing bias from the BBC, there always has been. Take yesterday for example, their reporting of the Donald Trump discussion in front of MPs because there was a petition against letting him into the UK.

There was absolutely no mention that there was another petition of nearly equal size demanding that he should be allowed to enter the UK.


Well I don't know what news you were watching but it was mentioned in the next breath on the 6p.m. and 10 p.m


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The Metro free "newspaper" is just a watered down version of the Daily Mail where their right wing message is presented to half asleep commuters on the basis they won't notice what they are up to.....

I'd say with anything they publish ( similar to some people's breakfast porridge) you should take at least one pinch of salt!  
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I do generally try and let comedians sway my political opinion. I particularly like the many appearances they make on Question Time and the News.
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The Metro free "newspaper" is just a watered down version of the Daily Mail where their right wing message is presented to half asleep commuters on the basis they won't notice what they are up to.....

I'd say with anything they publish ( similar to some people's breakfast porridge) you should take at least one pinch of salt!  


Are you saying the picture was a fake   don't be a fool man,

Here are some more links to the same disgraceful pictures..
http://www.newenglishreview.or.....m-West-by-election--

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....-Harriet-Harman.html

The best picture was the one with the labour candidate for Oldham Jim McMahon (since been arased from search engines, although can still be found on Twitter) he's looking awkwardly wedged in with an all male Muslim audience, showing us that when it comes to the Muslim vote equality goes to hell.


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I'm sure i could search Google and find plenty of articles that will support your left leaning bias theory of the BBC. I could equally find lots of articles that support the opposite view and probably some that there is no bias at all to either party.


No excrement Sherlock your a bright one Didn't my response to Maringers conservative BBC theory kind of make your point pretty obvious!
You only have to watch the BBC to confirm it's lefty bias only last Sunday morning on the big question with Nicky Campbell, an obvious audience stuffed full of leftys and most of them where junior doctors, and have a guess what the main debate was about???
The very few on the show in favour of the cuts where shouted down, reminds me of the time when Nigel Farage was stitched up by the BBC during a questions and answers election debate, when the large majority of the audience where yogurt knitters. ( BBC have admitted this you can google that one) and can you give me one name of a right wing comedian that frequents the BBC....just one?

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If you believe the Tories are great, then fine.


I think you get confused just because I'm not your typical brainwashed grimbarian that will only vote labour regardless ( the type Austin Mitchell remarked on) because I have never said that theTories are great and I'm not a Tory supporter, but when you compare the two party's together regarding who would be best to run the country its like compareing football managers say Mike Newel (labour) total basket case man that would ruin any club, and Sam Allidice (conservative) steady the ship man but no real progress, and that's as simple logic I can put to you hope you understand.

During the Blair and Brown years when they were busy trashing the economy, the NHS, and education sending us to illegal wars,increasing the public sector, introducing  zero hours contracts for the private sector,, political flipping correctness, allowing criminals to abuse the human rights act, opening the gates to mass immigration without even asking the British public, and giving our rights away to Brussels, etc, etc,
Did you just run around with your hands over your ears shouting nah nah nah nah  


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During the Blair and Brown years when they were busy trashing the economy, the NHS, and education sending us to illegal wars,increasing the public sector, introducing  zero hours contracts for the private sector,, political flipping correctness, allowing criminals to abuse the human rights act, opening the gates to mass immigration without even asking the British public, and giving our rights away to Brussels, etc, etc,
Did you just run around with your hands over your ears shouting nah nah nah nah  


It appears that you have either failed to comprehend or have simply ignored my many, many posts over the past year which deconstructed the myth of Tory competence with the economy. It takes a very special kind of a mind to think that the Blair/Brown governments "trashed the economy", especially in comparison to the ongoing clusterfuck we're seeing from Osborne.

The 'New Labour' government was fundamentally only marginally to the left of Thatcher in the way the economy was run, though they weren't quite as eager to privatise anything which wasn't nailed down and they did make some much-needed investment in public infrastructure (schools, the NHS and the like) after two decades of neglect from the Tories. Admittedly some of this investment was based on the foolish Tory policy of PFI (which, for all the criticism made before 2010 has been taken up once again with gusto by Osborne since he became Chancellor).

Faced with these facts (and they were facts), it really does beggar belief that anybody still thinks the recession in 2008 was anything to do with the 'New Labour' government at all rather than a crash of the world banking system. Quite how anybody can defend Osborne's record also beggars belief. He has missed every single one of his own economic targets by an enormous amount, has borrowed vast amounts of money whilst overseeing a decline in living standards, the weakest 'recovery' from a recession since the South Sea Bubble and his own plans to balance the books (which make no sense if you have any understanding of sectoral balances) are predicated on private debt reaching record levels by the end of this parliament! He's also engaged in the usual Tory race to the bottom for Corporate tax levels, has little interest in chasing tax evaders and has defunded and massively cut back HMRC to show this and is still engaged in further inflating the already overblown property market. All in all, he's set on taking us back to the 1920s. A breathtakingly incompetent Chancellor who makes Brown look like a genius in comparison though he was far from that in reality.

Regarding your rather lengthy earlier post about left-wing comedians and other minor characters in the BBC (strange how there are so few funny right-wing comedians, isn't it? Or should I say not funny?), you're rather missing the point. Classic whataboutery, though. The clear bias I am talking about is in the NEWS department - you know, where most people get their news from. All of the major figures in the BBC News department including the head honchos have a clear and obvious right-wing bias. Heck, many of them have worked for Murdoch at one time or another!

Anyway, no time for any further rebuttals to your usual nonsense. Unfortunately, I don't have the time I once did so rarely get chance to spend time posting on the Fishy or elsewhere.
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You seem to be a very angry sort Grim and your constant deriding of people that vote Labour is laughable. As one of the brainwashed Grimsby Socialists, i'm possibly far too thick to get your subtle take on things in the political spectrum, so i'll leave you to your delusions and pointless ramblings.

I'd also like to ask why it bothers you so much, as according to you, Labour are un-electable, so you have no need to worry. The country will just go from strength to strength now the Tories have a 4 year mandate to work with. Chill and enjoy the massive upturn the country is about to enjoy.

I'll leave you with a parting gift to peruse. It's from your favourite Tory rag too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci.....d-people-racist.html
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