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ginnywings
January 22, 2016, 9:01am

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If we get rid of the monarchy I hope you're gonna dig deep for the excess tax of the equivalent that the monarchy brings in tourism. Because I bet she earns no where near what that brings in!

As for Corbyn, unless you're a migrant or a dole popper or a social hermit, I can't see for the life of me why you'd give that man a vote!


I'm none of those things but he would get my vote. Why? Because I'm a socialist and he is the leader of the Labour party but then I'm not that gullible that i believe i am voting for the man and not the party. I would be voting for an ideology, not a personality. It's a bit like GTFC really. I'm not going to change teams because i don't like the manager. I can't for the life of me think why working class people would vote Tory, but hey, it's a democracy.

Why do you right wingers feel the need to name call and pick out individual groups and what actually is a dole popper? Divide and rule, It's the Tory way.
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As has been noted before, much of the economic stuff which we've heard from Corbyn so far really wouldn't have looked too much out of place in a Conservative manifesto from the 1970s. Mostly common sense and there is a good deal of support amongst the public for most of it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....-arent-a6702621.html

Of course, the problem is that the public don't get to hear any policy discussion because the media (of all stripes) is going after him with anything they can lay their hands on. If ever anybody didn't think there was an 'Establishment' running things in this country, the media coverage Corbyn has received must surely disabuse them of that idea.

The Guardian's latest is to report that his head of policy has been forced out after being sidelined (according to nameless 'senior figures' in the Labour party), despite the fact that the man himself states this isn't the reason! When you consider the Guardian is theoretically the most left-wing of the 'quality' newspapers, this is pretty disturbing.
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Traitor Corbyn causing mayhem in France tonight after selfies with potential  labour voting, economic migrants FFS! He says conditions are worse than expected what's he expect in socialist France...... buffoon!


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January 24, 2016, 9:49am
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Traitor Corbyn causing mayhem in France tonight after selfies with potential  labour voting, economic migrants FFS! He says conditions are worse than expected what's he expect in socialist France...... buffoon!


There's only one buffoon around here at the moment and I'm replying to him.

Only a fool of the highest order could see something sinister about a high-profile politician visiting a migrant camp and noting that a solution to the problem is necessary.

Here's what Corbyn is quoted as saying on the BBC site:

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"What I'm trying to achieve here is to understand the nature of the refugee crisis that's facing the whole of Europe,"

"Ultimately we deal with the situation by dealing with the problem at its source, which are the wars and conflicts.

"Also, there are the human needs of people. We have got people here who have been here for months, if not longer than that, with no proper education, no access to doctors, no access to dentists, limited access to food - in very cold, very wet conditions."

"We as human beings have to reach out to fellow human beings."


If you disagree with one iota of that statement, you're a sociopath. Or a gibbering idiot. Not sure which, to tell the truth.

I'm also not sure why you are getting so excitable about immigration here. After all, it didn't seem to worry you too much that your chum Hameron completely failed in his promise to cut immigration. Remember this quote? "No ifs. No buts. If we fail to cut immigration to the tens of thousands in five year's time, kick us out". Immigration, of course, doubled under the coalition government. I suppose that it's difficult to keep track of broken Tory promises or all-out lies because there have been so many of them, so perhaps you forgot about that one?
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Your not doing to bad considering you don't get time to post?

Nothing sinister about the the migrant vote, more migrants equals more voters for labour fact! It's one of the reason Blair and co open the flood gates.

Look I've nothing against the migrants personally if I was them I'd be doing the same, but they need to be told our country is full and they will not be entering, they should be taking asylum from a choice of safe countries they pass, Corbyn by going there is just going to encourage them even more he's no better than Merkel, his idea to let in the thousands at Calais is just ludicrous, if we did that there would be another 5 thousand back there by the end of the week.

It's time we had a strong deterrent at the borders with our troops for example that would have a shoot to kill policy because what happened yesterday at the ferry terminal and with migrants walking down the tunnel has now got to stop.

I don't actually know the figures from migrants outside of Europe so can't argue that but I will say Cameron is an idiot! he can't stop immigration even he wanted to, his hands are well and truly tied because Germany now dictate our immigration policy ever since the treacherous Labour Party signed our rights away, but at least with this goverment we will be given the right to democratically vote to remain in or not something your beloved party would never give us plebs.


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Your not doing to bad considering you don't get time to post?

Nothing sinister about the the migrant vote, more migrants equals more voters for labour fact! It's one of the reason Blair and co open the flood gates.

Look I've nothing against the migrants personally if I was them I'd be doing the same, but they need to be told our country is full and they will not be entering, they should be taking asylum from a choice of safe countries they pass, Corbyn by going there is just going to encourage them even more he's no better than Merkel, his idea to let in the thousands at Calais is just ludicrous, if we did that there would be another 5 thousand back there by the end of the week.

It's time we had a strong deterrent at the borders with our troops for example that would have a shoot to kill policy because what happened yesterday at the ferry terminal and with migrants walking down the tunnel has now got to stop.

I don't actually know the figures from migrants outside of Europe so can't argue that but I will say Cameron is an idiot! he can't stop immigration even he wanted to, his hands are well and truly tied because Germany now dictate our immigration policy ever since the treacherous Labour Party signed our rights away, but at least with this goverment we will be given the right to democratically vote to remain in or not something your beloved party would never give us plebs.


All your ramblings in a nutshell.  
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All your ramblings in a nutshell.  


Great post   your so comical you haven't even got an argument with me on this, face it your pin up boy is the most dangerous man in Britain.


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All your ramblings in a nutshell.  


Quite.

We've come to expect him to rant on about pretty much any topic, parroting the right-wing agenda and blaming the Labour party or its leaders whilst absolving the Tories regardless of any evidence produced. In fact, if it wasn't for the small readership of this section of this small footy site, you'd think he could be one of the paid Tory trolls who attempt to skew the agenda on news sites.

However, he seems to have completely jumped the shark as regards immigration. Is he seriously, seriously advocating an illegal shoot to kill policy? Absolutely bonkers.
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Quite.

We've come to expect him to rant on about pretty much any topic, parroting the right-wing agenda and blaming the Labour party or its leaders whilst absolving the Tories regardless of any evidence produced. In fact, if it wasn't for the small readership of this section of this small footy site, you'd think he could be one of the paid Tory trolls who attempt to skew the agenda on news sites.

However, he seems to have completely jumped the shark as regards immigration. Is he seriously, seriously advocating an illegal shoot to kill policy? Absolutely bonkers.


We have migrants breaching security time and time again, the next one to stroll down the tunnel or sneak on a ferry could just be one of the reported jihadis that's residing at Calais, now I'm sure your intelligent enough to imagine the potential devastation that could be caused, but just for ginny wink .... Thousands of British lives are at risk!

Now I'm a shut the stable door before the horse bolts kind of person, so if maiming (1st choice) or even killing a few illegal invaders to send out a clear message And stop a potential atrocity is what it takes then the sooner the better, but if you think it's acceptable for countless breaches without deterrent then I'l accuse you of being bonkers.


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I disagree with a lot of Mr Corbyn's views on socialism, the royals, defence etc but I have a rare sense of respect him as a leader of a political party that tells us his views on things and not  what he thinks we want to hear like the rest of them have been doing for at least the last 20/30years
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