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Maringer
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Even worse than that, the current BBC are actively working to create discord within the opposition. Here's the webcache of a rather smug blog describing how Kuenssberg and the Daily Politics editors worked to create a news story by arranging the resignation of a member of the shadow cabinet live on air:

http://webcache.googleusercont.....mp;ct=clnk&gl=uk

Note, the original blog from yesterday has already been deleted from the BBC web site for some inexplicable reason - you wouldn't know it was ever posted, or that such plotting had occurred. Why has this blog been deleted?

Does anybody think it right that the national broadcaster is actively interfering in the politics of Her Majesty's opposition? It really beggar's belief.

Left-wing bias, my bottom.
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Pfft. Minor reshuffle, nothing more. Storm in a teacup whipped up by the media who have decided to let the Tories get away without any blame for cutting £1 billion on flood expenditure since they came into office:

http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/uk-flood-prevention-missing-billion.html!


To be fair to the Torys we had the wettest December on record not to mention the fact they are spending more on flood defences than any other government, but the likes of the Guardian and left wing labour supporting professors with debatable figures will jump on any snippets of bad news nothing changes!

The only surprise was why wasn't the Labour Party joining in? The likes of Milliband, Blair and Kinnock would of been all over them like a rash, anyway must say how much I'm enjoying all the infighting (great entertainment by the way) this is the hypocrite who freely rebelled against his party 100s of times and then went on to sack his own cabinet members for disagreeing with him hilarious!

On the trident row he's now advocating having deterrent that has no capacity to deter!!! Maybe working class hating Emily helped him cook this one up   "it's like having an army with broken rifles and no ammunition" his own shadow minister John Woodcock commented...carefull John you will get sacked with remarks like that.

I don't know how much longer this clown can remain leader but the longer the better I say, I just find it difficult to understand how anyone like the people on here can support him... The mind boggles!


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To be fair to the Torys we had the wettest December on record not to mention the fact they are spending more on flood defences than any other government, but the likes of the Guardian and left wing labour supporting professors with debatable figures will jump on any snippets of bad news nothing changes!

The only surprise was why wasn't the Labour Party joining in? The likes of Blair and Kinnock would of been all over them like a rash, anyway must say how much I'm enjoying all the infighting (great entertainment by the way) this is the hypocrite who freely rebelled against his party 100s of times and then went on to sack his own cabinet members for disagreeing with him hilarious!

On the trident row he's now advocating having deterrent that has no capacity to deter!!! Maybe working class hating Emily helped him cook this one up   "it's like having an army with broken rifles and no ammunition" his own shadow minister John Woodcock commented...carefull John you will get sacked with remarks like that.

I don't know how much longer this clown can remain leader but the longer the better I say, I just find it difficult to understand how anyone like the people on here can support him... The mind boggles!


It's called democracy. The Tories ought to try it.
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Even worse than that, the current BBC are actively working to create discord within the opposition. Here's the webcache of a rather smug blog describing how Kuenssberg and the Daily Politics editors worked to create a news story by arranging the resignation of a member of the shadow cabinet live on air:

http://webcache.googleusercont.....mp;ct=clnk&gl=uk

Note, the original blog from yesterday has already been deleted from the BBC web site for some inexplicable reason - you wouldn't know it was ever posted, or that such plotting had occurred. Why has this blog been deleted?

Does anybody think it right that the national broadcaster is actively interfering in the politics of Her Majesty's opposition? It really beggar's belief.

Left-wing bias, my bottom.


Of course there is a left wing bias from the BBC, there always has been. Take yesterday for example, their reporting of the Donald Trump discussion in front of MPs because there was a petition against letting him into the UK.

There was absolutely no mention that there was another petition of nearly equal size demanding that he should be allowed to enter the UK.
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Of course there is a left wing bias from the BBC, there always has been. Take yesterday for example, their reporting of the Donald Trump discussion in front of MPs because there was a petition against letting him into the UK.

There was absolutely no mention that there was another petition of nearly equal size demanding that he should be allowed to enter the UK.


No mention either regarding the 450,000 online petitions against all immigration and close all borders until Isis is defeated!
Anybody who believes that the BBC is anything other than left wing is severely deluded.


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It's called democracy. The Tories ought to try it.


Labour style democracy.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/01/.....asian-rally-5536791/


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No mention either regarding the 450,000 online petitions against all immigration and close all borders until Isis is defeated!
Anybody who believes that the BBC is anything other than left wing is severely deluded.


450,000. That's the entire population of the UK isn't it?
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Of course there is a left wing bias from the BBC, there always has been.


Which is why the head of BBC News, James Harding, is a former editor of The Times (where he was an ardent critic of the BBC), former BBC Political Correspondent Nick Robinson (who now presents Today) was former head of the Conservative Association at University and later President of the Conservative Party Youth Group and Andrew Neil, who presents the Daily Politics is a former Conservative Party employee as well as former editor of the Sunday Times. Breathtaking left-wing bias there, I'm sure you'll agree.  

Kuenssberg is boldly carrying on Robinson's traditions since she took over his job by the looks of things as well, arranging resignations of Shadow Cabinet members on air, shortly before PMQs. Note the timing of this resignation allowed Cameron to attack Corbyn in PMQs and helped to shift attention away from more of their failures in government which are manifold. I'm still amazed they can get away with such hopeless performance with such little comeback.

The rank and file at the BBC may well be generally liberal in their outlook, but the people steering the news agenda certainly aren't.

Don't get me wrong, the quality of most of the current characters in the Labour Party is less than impressive following the 'New Labour' era which hollowed out most of the party (many of the Shadow Ministers in particular are bloody hopeless!), but the appallingly incompetent government seems to get away with their failings with little criticism in comparison to the round the clock attacks on Corbyn & Co. Remember back to when Cameron took over as leader of the Conservative Party? They literally didn't have any policies or any kind of a manifesto for well over a year and this passed without any comment! On the other hand, since Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party, he's been endlessly attacked for not having a bullet-proof manifesto in place within a few months.

That said, the idea of building Trident submarines without having warheads to put into them was a bloody ridiculous idea to float, so to speak. Wasting that much money on Trident is bloody stupid in itself without having a useful product at the end of it.
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No mention either regarding the 450,000 online petitions against all immigration and close all borders until Isis is defeated!



Wow, certainly a lot of flipping stupid people around in this country, aren't there? Can't say I'd heard of this petition before now, but it does make me despair about the general level of intelligence in the UK.
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"Wow, certainly a lot of flipping stupid people around in this country, aren't there? Can't say I'd heard of this petition before now, but it does make me despair about the general level of intelligence in the UK."

That is pretty terrifying although not hugely surprising.  I wonder how many of them vote UKIP?

On Trident, I can see the arguments for both sides but my personal preference would be to retain it this time.  We don't know where the world will be in 20 years time so I think unilaterally disarming now would be a mistake.  I would be more inclined to try and reduce our conventional forces a little bit so concentrate on defence rather than attack.
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