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salfordmariner
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I have to say I agree with john fenty about how the fans negative attitude can badly influence things at bp

There are plenty of other examples of this happening at other clubs and the managers and players saying the same. I would almost go as far as saying it is fact.

John fenty never said it was all the fans fault. What he did say though, was poorly written, poorly timed and placed ontop of a recent history of snide comments on here aimed at the fans which meant what he was actually saying was easily perceived in a completely different way.

Yes, the negativity may hinder players performances, but this isn't the fans fault,  it has been born out of many different factors all of which have been covered on here recently

To stop this we need to look at how other clubs did it. It can't be done by cheap shots in interviews or even just asking fans like hurst did today. There needs to be a connection between the team and fans again and an overall club strategy explaining to the fans so they understand what the players are trying to do. Something to buy into.

Ian Holloway spent a lot of time at Blackpool educating the fans during interviews and at sportsman dinners about how they are trying to get the players to be more expansive and creative and the fans need to applaud mistakes if they want a more expansive game otherwise players go into their shells and opt for the safe option. Human nature.

Luton town had a very similar situation as ourselves. Henry confronted one fan saying how the negativity was harming the players performances. McNulty backing him. John still arranged a meeting with this fan- explained why they need the fans on board. Especially at home when a team comes to defend- and if after 20 mins they don't score that's when the fans need to start supporting not getting on the players back.

The same messages have been said by fenty, Scott and hurst and even mike newell but up till now in a completely different way. A siege mentality. Almost a Us verses them scenario being established. This is what creates further anger, frustration and  just cements the fans negativity.

I am encouraged by john fenty asking disgruntled fans for a meeting. The change must start from the top. I think hurst should also look at how john still and Ian holloway managed this situation and start building a rapport with the fans.

Of course a more attractive and expansive game would also help, but like at Blackpool and Luton, this is hard to implement in a negative environment.  

I hope this is the start of a change in tactics from fenty and co. Sometimes the importance of HOW a message is delivered is more important than what is actually said.
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The fact is fans will not just sit and support any old shite. If you cannot see that the performances are dull, boring and toothless, win, lose or draw then you're deluded IMO.

You can't just expect fans to be bored to tears and simply lap it all up.
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Excellent post Salford. It's been mentioned by players that Town fans specifically getting on their backs is well known throughout football. I wasn't fully aware of this but apparently it's a GTFC trait that away teams try to actively exploit. Booing and negativity doesn't help anyone.


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You may have a point, but it works both ways. Players have to lift the crowd and I'm afraid in recent times that just hasn't happened. I turn up at Blundell Park feeling utterly depressed, not because we're in the Conference but because it's the same old story and has been whilst Hurst has been here. Not one for booing and never have booed, but the other day I really felt like booing Nathan Arnold. I can take a lack of ability at the best of times, but a lack of interest, effort and poor attitude I can't.


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Good, positive managers get teams out of the doldrums.

Hurst and Scott were just what was needed at the time. We were a rudderless ship and needed to stop the decline, steady the ship and regroup in calmer waters. We now need a fearless captain to steer us to choppier waters with more risks and Hurst isn't that man. IMO he should have gone with Scott and i said so at the time.

Hurst is a "that'll do-er", a "just enough-er" and will always be a safe pair of hands but he will never inspire the passion on and off the pitch that we are all craving after an eternity of mediocrity.

The fans will back this team to the hilt if they sense something in the air but when you see the likes of Arnold fannying around like a fart in a colander, then the fans have every right to moan.
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If we're not winning because of a large amount of booing we should hammer Gateshead on Saturday!


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Quoted from salfordmariner
I have to say













actually said.


Thats better  




In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Excellent post Salford. It's been mentioned by players that Town fans specifically getting on their backs is well known throughout football. I wasn't fully aware of this but apparently it's a GTFC trait that away teams try to actively exploit. Booing and negativity doesn't help anyone.



FFS, how about getting out and about a bit and visiting other grounds, just how many times do people like you have to be told, it isn't just a Grimsby Town issue.
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Really don't understand this fans being hostile and players not liking it etc... Bp is like a morgue and has been for a while, if they're really struggling with this then surely they shouldn't be football players..
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