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If his goals got us promoted welcome Ched Evans to the club

this for me is an hard one....Convicted Rapist ...but served his time so does he deserve a second chance

hasnt said sorry ....but then again he is appealing so to say sorry would be an admission of guilt !!!!

convicted on the word of proven liar !!!!! and when i say that  it is on the grounds that she accused both Ched and Clayton of rape....the jury decided she was lieing about Clayton   but took her word for it against Ched !!!

One of the worse crimes to comitt against a fellow human ...would we want someone like that in OUR shirt !!!!!


The above points are playing devils advocate to try get debate  and a sensible debate would be great .....lets try do it without calling and abusing each other



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The above points are playing devils advocate to try get debate  and a sensible debate would be great .....lets try do it without calling and abusing each other

Well said.
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I personally wouldn't welcome back anyone convicted of that sort of crime. Also he is still on license so I believe so hasn't fully served his sentence.
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Would be bad for team morale and also would put some fans off coming to the ground , perhaps losing sponsors too . For those reason it would be a no.

He has served his time and deserves to get his life back together ( Get A job)  Not sure if it should be in football though?


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The 'evidence' against Evans was an utter joke. In fact, the evidence against him was exactly the same as that against our former centre back Clayton Macdonald. For one to be found innocent, the other guilty is ridiculous. The alleged victim was on twitter shortly after the incident claiming she was 'going to win big', she had also cried wolf before. Tons of inconsistencies, IMO it should never have gone to trial, never mind led to a conviction.

I'd welcome his signing but he's well out of our league I'm afraid.
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This is a very sensitive issue.  We will never know the actual truth their word against hers.  Actually thinking about it this sort of thing could have happened to me when i use to go out on the pull.  Pulling a bird that was drunk and taking me back to her place she could of said things about me and although the only proof would be that we had sex i wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  Oh btw i would never rape anyone and if she said no i would respect that.  


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The 'evidence' against Evans was an utter joke. In fact, the evidence against him was exactly the same as that against our former centre back Clayton Macdonald. For one to be found innocent, the other guilty is ridiculous. The alleged victim was on twitter shortly after the incident claiming she was 'going to win big', she had also cried wolf before. Tons of inconsistencies, IMO it should never have gone to trial, never mind led to a conviction.

I'd welcome his signing but he's well out of our league I'm afraid.


BP did Clayton stand by Evans as he was there?


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I'm sure many will remember, as I do, the negative reaction of some of our fans to a player who signed for us on loan while facing sex charges, of which he was later cleared. While I understood and respected the argument that we should not have signed him while he was facing such charges, I took the view, and still do, that it is for the legal process to take its course and for us as a club to deal with that when necessary and not to try to be judge and jury ourselves.

That is why, for me, the Evans case is very different. While I share some of the misgivings raised here and elsewhere about the safety of his conviction, and as much as I understand offenders should be rehabilitated as part of the criminal justice process, the fact is that he currently remains a convicted rapist. As such, I would not want him representing my club until and unless that conviction was overturned through due legal process. The volume of pressure Sheffield United have been put under over the last few weeks should also serve as a warning.
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If his goals got us promoted welcome Ched Evans to the club

this for me is an hard one....Convicted Rapist ...but served his time so does he deserve a second chance

hasnt said sorry ....but then again he is appealing so to say sorry would be an admission of guilt !!!!

convicted on the word of proven liar !!!!! and when i say that  it is on the grounds that she accused both Ched and Clayton of rape....the jury decided she was lieing about Clayton   but took her word for it against Ched !!!

One of the worse crimes to comitt against a fellow human ...would we want someone like that in OUR shirt !!!!!


The above points are playing devils advocate to try get debate  and a sensible debate would be great .....lets try do it without calling and abusing each other



This is a very dubious statement, just because a jury found Clayton not guilty does make her a proven liar, maybe enough doubt to not convict him, if you say this though by the same standard Ched is a proven rapist a notoriously difficult crime to get a conviction.
To you question the answer is no, there is too much baggage with him, already sponsors are leaving sheff utd and he`s not started training yet.  He is a proven sex offender who has thrown away his career and will get very little sympathy here
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The problem with this case is did he have her consent,

We excepted Clayton when he played for us,

Did Evans take advantage of her  being in a drunken state,

Or did she see this to make a buck or two,

I do not think any of us can say he is innocent,

Also I do not think any of us can say he was guilty,

Another day in another court the verdict might have been different,

On the football side, he has served his time and why should he be stopped from earing an honest living,

If he was a bricklayer would he be stopped from laying bricks,

Just because he is a footballer why should it be any different,

He will play again but not for us.


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