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moosey_club
March 25, 2023, 8:05pm
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Knocking it down costs money, loss of seats whilst you do it costs money. temporary changing facilities, seats, toilets etc costs money...bodge it is the cheapest quickest cost-effective answer in the immediate short term.
Ground needs serious renovation or a relocation needs to happen but to achieve either needs a clear and firm mandate from the top. Bumbling along won't get us anywhere and will seriously dent the reputation/good work being done elsewhere.




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March 25, 2023, 8:07pm
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Really difficult one, we can’t afford to reduce the attendance so in the short term I don’t see any other option other than to spend the cash.  However, at some point we need to either re-develop or move.  Personally I’d look at rotating the pitch 90 degrees and re-develop the main, Osmond and Pontoon.  
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March 25, 2023, 8:18pm
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Dont forget us disabled supporters.
The view from wheelchairs is absolutely awful.
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March 25, 2023, 8:20pm
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Never said “to keep it operational” at all.


Okay he didnt use that exact word , i paraphrased slightly .

But i dont think we would be throwing 350k at it if it wasnt necessary work .

Is the main stand close to condemnation ?

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March 25, 2023, 8:21pm

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So new ground then, so where do we get circa £30 million it would cost to build it from?


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So new ground then, so where do we get circa £30 million it would cost to build it from?


Exactly.

It's ok people saying we need a new ground, and I'd imagine the owners would like one too, but it's a huge sum of money needed to build one.

I think 30 million may be a conservative estimate. Building costs have risen sharply over the last 2 years.

The cost of one new stand at Crystal Palace is estimated at 100 million.
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March 25, 2023, 8:42pm

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Dont forget us disabled supporters.
The view from wheelchairs is absolutely awful.
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If we were to stay at BP for the medium-term I'd love to see us utilise some of the space we have (maybe at the end of the Main or either side of the Findus) by investing in some better disability facilities. Perhaps a raised, covered platform or something similar.

Towards the end of his life, I had to take my Grandad to Hull on a semi-regular basis to get his football fix as the disability facilities at BP were so poor. After having grown up watching Town with him you can imagine how weird that was! A bit of thought went into Hull's ground re disabled supporters, what with their raised platforms about halfway up the stands all the way around the ground. It is a genuinely good experience of watching football for a disabled fan+carer (discounting the fact that it wasn't Town).

I get we're slightly hamstrung by our little old ground but it'd be nice to have some funds set aside to go along with the excellent work of our disabled supporters club. It's about time BP catered for them a little better.
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March 25, 2023, 8:45pm
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So new ground then, so where do we get circa £30 million it would cost to build it from?


Thats the main point that people forget :
Stockwood and Pettit are wealthy guys ,probably worth 50-100m between them ,but they cant bankrupt themselves can they on the club ,who would do that ? (apart from Simon Jordan)
The council and government are crap
The enabling development that our former football fortune chasing custodian hoped would help has gone .
So we are are stuck with a sticking plaster on the ground for the future it seems .
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March 25, 2023, 9:00pm
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If they've got 50m between them and the ground costs 30m they could easily do it and still have 10m each. Hardly be destitute after.
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I have a feeling there's something being hidden from us in terms of a major facelift or even relocation from BP. If it happens to be a move then it isn't going to be soon, and if it's a BP facelift then I don't think it'll be inside the next 4 years, but one of the bits I took away from that interview is 'where are we in 10 years time'.

These guys aren't daft. Nor are the fans (on the main!). The questions over long term viability won't evade these two and any longer term thinking will have to consider the constant drain of money that BP requires to keep it going. At some point this will need a more permanent solution and they'll know this.

Having been a huge supporter of a new stadium, I'm more and more coming around to the idea of re-developing BP and ensuring it has all the commercial elements to increase non-matchday revenue. For now, I'm willing to trust that the owners are looking at the whole club in a much more proactive manner than the previous owner and they'll have a priority list in terms of what to get sorted in order to see us progress the leagues.
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