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MarinerGaz
June 28, 2016, 7:16am

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Doesn't really matter, the players are priced out of the foreign leagues so we never have that all encompassing experience that the other countries generally have. Having said that neither do we have any English managers with the tactical nouse and passion displayed by some of those on show in the tournament or the Premier League. Far too insular!
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June 28, 2016, 7:19am
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The funny thing there is that you say the players are priced out of playing overseas - in other words, they can get paid a lot more as a sub at a mid-table Premier League club than they could at a top Spanish or Italian team!

I don't doubt plenty would benefit greatly from playing overseas, but it's a big step to move abroad and much too easy just to keep coining it in over here.
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June 28, 2016, 7:27am
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Shearer FFS! If he wants it that much then he should go and be a manager for a bit, try to get avoiding relegation on his CV and then reapply.

I don't think it was a lack of passion last night as much as a total lack of mental strength. Looked like they totally froze to me.
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June 28, 2016, 7:33am
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It doesn't matter who we have managing the team. Until we start producing players that can retain possession and have a good level of technical ability, we will continue to go around in circles. We are so far behind other countries , look at how some of the 'smaller' countries maintain possession and always want the ball, you have players who will take a 5 yard pass to feet with 2 opposition players on their back and still manage to make a successful pass to a team mate. We gain possession and our first thought is long ball over the top.

We cant produce players like Toni Kroos, Ozil , Payet , Pogba. Why ?

People say the premier league is the best league in the world , apparently , yet if you took the class and guile of the foreign players away , all we would be left with is a very average league with very average players.
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June 28, 2016, 7:36am
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I think we should reward the F.A.,  Woy, and all  the England players for what they have done for this country before we even think about a new manager , What about a cruise to the Mariana Trench and then pull the plug. We could put this into any future managers contract.
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June 28, 2016, 7:47am
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The Iceland team were set up better. They knew our width came from the full backs and pushed up on them to stop them having the space they had in the group games.  This wasn't helped by Sturridge coming deep all the time.  I'm not sure what Wilshere coming on for Dier was meant to achieve, I can only assume Dier had a knock


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June 28, 2016, 8:28am
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Bedders, I don't think you realised the thinking behind Wiltshire for Dier. We were 2-1 down Iceland were not going to commit , so why do we need a holding midfielder as Dier was playing. Wiltshire gave us more of a progressive option from midfield, didn't do any good but the correct thinking
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June 28, 2016, 8:28am
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Bedders, I don't think you realised the thinking behind Wiltshire for Dier. We were 2-1 down Iceland were not going to commit , so why do we need a holding midfielder as Dier was playing. Wiltshire gave us more of a progressive option from midfield, didn't do any good but the correct thinking
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Look up the England line up v Germany when the England team and subs that came on played so well. All Roy had to do is choose a right back and find a replacement to do Welbeck's job. There was the winning formula. We played with pace and power that Germany couldn't live with. That's all he had to do. But no, he had to accommodate Rooney. His insistence of playing him changed the whole way the team played. It was like a sub-conscious cloud hanging over the whole team. It affected how every player played, whether it was the slowed down pace or having to play in a slightly different position to get Wayne into the team.

I know other players haven't covered themselves in glory, but the blame lies solely with the manager. It's not Rooney's fault for wanting to play as many games for England as he can, but he just hasn't got it anymore and hasn't for a good two or three seasons. I really hoped I was wrong about Hodgson and Rooney but sadly I wasn't. We've got to stop looking at individual players and look at the team as the sum of the parts. Go and look at the England line up that did so well in Germany. We all remember that we played really well and were all excited about it.

I don't buy the tired argument. I think the team lacked belief. Belief in what they were doing and belief in the manager which turned into sheer panic.

We pay world class manager money, yet we don't get world class managers. Time to get a truly world class manager with a bit of charisma that England players seem to respond to, like Venables or Robson..
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June 28, 2016, 10:10am
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The biggest worry last night was the way in which the players were standing around like statues when one of their teammates were in possession. Absolutely no options to pass to which made it more difficult for the midfielders. One of the reasons why we gave the ball away in the middle so often, though bloody rubbish quality of passing was certainly another.

Pass and move - it surely can't be that bloody hard to a top tier player?
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