Sponsors of the club

Can't the trust do something about the shocking PR from the club, can't they stop the club from treating the fans with contempt instead of just sitting back doing nothing, this is why I would never join the trust, yes they came up with Operation Promotion and I'm grateful for that but things like this happen and nothing happens, like nothing happened about Fenty's rant

This will be a view with what many disagree with I know.

Not everyone is going to like the practice and/or product of many of our sponsors but that's no reason for the club to stop a simple debate on an independent website about it. I absolutely hate Youngs admiral pie but I don't expect the club to stop me saying that

Quoted from grimps

Supply and demand !
That's the whole nature of business , the guy is doing nothing different to what Tescos do yet is being criticised  by jealous little nobody's

If you don't like the way Tesco operate, you can go elsewhere. If you want a ticket for a "sold out" gig, you pay well over the top or you don't go, so clearly your comparison is balderdash. I also suggest you go and look up the word jealous in a dictionary and if it means disgusted, then yeah, you're right.

Yours Truly.

A Nobody.

Grimps, supermarkets perform a valuable role in the supply chain from producer to consumer. Without them you'd be having to trek thousands of miles to find all those foods you've become used to. You'd also pay a heck of a lot more for it because supermarkets buy in bulk and pass on some of the discounts to you.

I can't see what function ticket operations like the one we're discussing performs. 'Producers' (the event organisers or their agents) sell tickets on-line. It's not like you'd have to trek to Indonesia to get them and buy them by the hundred to get your hands on them.

Supermarkets also have a cartel on "straight" carrots, unblemished vegetables and out of size bananas just a mention a few examples.

A regional turnip farm recently showed a news item as they had to throw away over £45,000 worth of good to eat but misshapen turnips as they didn't conform to the "big three" size and shape requirements (contract didn't allow for free distribution or give aways to anywhere else like food banks as it stops shoppers buying the perfect stuff) and he then went out of business over another similar wasteful operation - over 70 people put out of work.

Now THAT is immoral !!!!

Very interesting moral/ethical/philosophical dilemma here .
firstly the club and then Rob (in the latters case understandably but unfortunately) have massively over reacted.
it's a good job they're not in government as we'd see papers closed down for discussing the rights and wrongs of john Whittingdale's position!

when does a donation become a sponsorship? for example do we welcome the financial input of an ex criminal who's gone straight and sponsors  a match ball and hires out a box? if a pay day loan company hires out a box for the season do we stop them from doing so? do people who may have made large contributions towrds the youth team become sponsors? are they then to be 'protected' from any criticism should they have a dubious background or business dealings?

if Newman is negotiating a proper sponsorship deal should the club accept his money? would they have accepted it last season from a company which made legal highs, which at the time was perfectly legal?
what if it was a payday loan company ? or a bank? or a tobacco company? or a company with a dubious environmental approach? what if it was a fashion company who's overseas working practices had been called into question?

the whole thing is a moralistic minefield, but just goes to prove that the club could really do with a bit of professional P.R. input

I have no problem with Rob removing the thread as it's clearly not worth the stress.

I do wonder however if the individual involved in the original discussion will be happy with the outcome of the attempt at censorship - i.e a bigger thread with many more views.

There is no way to make money without being involved in something unethical at some point. That's capitalism.

Quoted from acko338

Supermarkets also have a cartel on "straight" carrots, unblemished vegetables and out of size bananas just a mention a few examples.

A regional turnip farm recently showed a news item as they had to throw away over £45,000 worth of good to eat but misshapen turnips as they didn't conform to the "big three" size and shape requirements (contract didn't allow for free distribution or give aways to anywhere else like food banks as it stops shoppers buying the perfect stuff) and he then went out of business over another similar wasteful operation - over 70 people put out of work.

Now THAT is immoral !!!!

IF I worked for the farm and I was throwing away good food because it was mis-shapen then surely the question should be asked if not any use for the supermarkets ...what's the alternative?

Diversify in to making soup?  

Adding the turnips in to stew packs?

Slicing it in to regular sizes for people who can't be @arsed ( such as happens with green beans and carrots)

If what you describe is true and I've no reason to disbelieve you, then I would argue not only is it immoral on the part of the supermarkets but it's also totally illogical on the part of the farm

Quoted from Dan

There is no way to make money without being involved in something unethical at some point. That's capitalism.

Bullcrap. I earn my living as a self employed joiner. I give you a fair price for a fair days work and if you think it is unacceptable, then you hire someone else. I swap my skill and knowledge for cash. What is unethical about it?