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It’s obvious that Stockwood went for the cheap option! I didn’t realise Adkin’s was available, he was the man with the credentials to motivate and instil a working system to play too. Like many on here I did initially get caught up with the Stockwood hype. I thought well.. he’s super rich and he’s a town fan, articulate and intelligent, so he’s well aware there is no money to be made, so he must be here for the love of the club and knows he will need to shell out big for any success.
I started to realise early on that he wasn’t going to be our Jack Haywood, John Hall or Jack Walker there was to be no big investment, the loans to be paid back would come from club revenue, any hopes of a new stadium quickly disappeared, and I think the playing budget in the conference was only half decent because of the parachute payment. No this is all about status for him, the local boy done good, owner of a once proud historic football club. He thought he could run it like his business models and turn around a poor struggling club, but the reality is the club is costing him now which goes against the grain for any champagne socialist, which is why we are still and will continue to be a poor struggling club.
On what do you base your statement " cheap option "? Do you know what we are paying DA and what the owners were prepared to pay? It's these cheap throwaway statements that get repeated until people start to believe that they are facts as opposed to conjecture.
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February 11, 2024, 11:23am |
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On what do you base your statement " cheap option "? Do you know what we are paying DA and what the owners were prepared to pay? It's these cheap throwaway statements that get repeated until people start to believe that they are facts as opposed to conjecture.
Yeah Adkins wasn't even available and I doubt Artell was especially cheap, he had enough money or irons in the fire to turn down the standard liege (?) coaching role which would have paid very well.
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February 11, 2024, 11:39am |
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Artell certainly won't be sacked as it will reduce Stockwood's credibility to zero.
I thought Artell would be great for Town judging by some of the football played early doors but the last 2 home games have seen all the good stuff evaporate and the bad stuff get worse.
Who knows what the answer is? None of us know how we have managed to get 4th bottom in February after all the goodwill and relative success of the last couple of seasons but here we are once again.
The only thing is to survive, somehow and regroup next season but everybody sees us (rightly) as perennial strugglers which is humiliating really. Peter Handysides sad passing just reinforced the difference between then and now.
H Think the boat reducing Stockwood credibility to zero,has already sailed.
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February 11, 2024, 11:40am |
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I would keep Artell for now but we need to start clearing it instead of playing high risk passes in our own third. The defensive problems are obviously not going to be solved this season so we are going to need a few 3-2 and 4-3 wins to ensure survival.
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February 11, 2024, 11:52am |
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I would keep Artell for now but we need to start clearing it instead of playing high risk passes in our own third. The defensive problems are obviously not going to be solved this season so we are going to need a few 3-2 and 4-3 wins to ensure survival.
He (Artell) has already said that with him in charge we won't do that, so you can't have that option.
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February 11, 2024, 11:55am |
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From what I've seen, the Crewe fans don't seem particularly enamored with Artell despite the promotion and league 1 finish. His last relegation season may have something to do with that but seen a few of their fans suggesting that they had a lot of good youth players coming through at the same time as Artell's success who have gone onto higher levels. Don't know how true that is and whether the few opinions I've seen are representative.
Either way, he definitely looks like a manager who needs top lower league footballers to pull of his style, but that's not something we're ever going to have. We need someone more like Wild who can work on a lower budget but team a balanced and hard working team, although that does sound like Hurst.
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FishySmithy |
February 11, 2024, 12:26pm |
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From what I've seen, the Crewe fans don't seem particularly enamored with Artell despite the promotion and league 1 finish. His last relegation season may have something to do with that but seen a few of their fans suggesting that they had a lot of good youth players coming through at the same time as Artell's success who have gone onto higher levels. Don't know how true that is and whether the few opinions I've seen are representative.
Either way, he definitely looks like a manager who needs top lower league footballers to pull of his style, but that's not something we're ever going to have. We need someone more like Wild who can work on a lower budget but team a balanced and hard working team, although that does sound like Hurst.
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On what do you base your statement " cheap option "? Do you know what we are paying DA and what the owners were prepared to pay? It's these cheap throwaway statements that get repeated until people start to believe that they are facts as opposed to conjecture.
I doubt he's paid much less than the going rate for this level, so not the cheap option in that sense. But to not bring in any other staff that he's worked with, particularly an assistant, smells like a cheap option. The alternative is that nobody who's worked with him before wants to come here, which doesn’t sound good. But JS gave interviews saying they'd still be here when the appointment was made. So definitely sounds like something pushed from higher up.
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February 11, 2024, 12:40pm |
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From what I've seen, the Crewe fans don't seem particularly enamoured with Artell despite the promotion and league 1 finish. His last relegation season may have something to do with that but seen a few of their fans suggesting that they had a lot of good youth players coming through at the same time as Artell's success who have gone onto higher levels. Don't know how true that is and whether the few opinions I've seen are representative.
Either way, he definitely looks like a manager who needs top lower league footballers to pull off his style, but that's not something we're ever going to have. We need someone more like Wild who can work on a lower budget but team a balanced and hardworking team, although that does sound like Hurst.
Completely agree, and at Crewe he inherited a bunch of talented up-and-coming players willing to learn, as proven by their latter successes further up the leagues. Much better than the mish-mash of 'sicknotes' and 'headless chickens' that he is trying and failing to shape into a playing unit here.
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He (Artell) has already said that with him in charge we won't do that, so you can't have that option.
Is also the edict from above that we play like that.
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