Artell In Or out ?

Quoted from arryarryarry

Another Town fan who keeps his head stuck up his bottom.

Town fans are no different to fans of all clubs, I've followed Town all over and heard home fans giving their own manager and players excrement as well as reading other fans forums slagging off their own players.

"I see toxicity elsewhere, so toxicity is fine".

Yeah, no. You talk about town fans having their head up their bottom. Ironic really.

Ultimately, these players aren't over 30, some of them are early 20s, some from youth football, and getting abuse from folks doesn't help them build a confidence. There is a reason teams get more points at home that away. Same goals, same grass, same ball, just you have less people cheering you on and when you intercourse up, people will often get behind you and you can forget about it and move on. Of course, when home become a cauldron for your own players to boil in, it doesn't help. You might things it's fine for old man to yell at young boys, and maybe you need that in your life, but in no ways is it useful or constructive.

I wasn’t overwhelmed by the appointment, I’d have gone all out for the Cowleys,  but felt the owners must have done a lot more due diligence than JF ever did and trusted them.
I think they’ve been sold a pup.
There’s just something about Artell that comes across as arrogant , the dismissive  little snorts and grunts in interviews at questions he doesn’t like before he composes himself for an answer . He seems a bit like Jolley in his belief in his own intellectual superiority.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to play like he does, but you have set up the best system that suits the players you’ve got until you get there.
I’m not one to usually panic and call for a managers head but this has disaster written all over it. He’s made a bad squad and a bad team even worse.
His refusal to recognise this is the most worrying thing.
For me it’s an out. Get someone in who recognises our defensive problems and addresses them . Even if it’s a short term appointment until the end of the season . We just need to shut up shop and stay up and take it from there.

Quoted from 140381

Yep. Said this at the time. Also see those who wanted hurst out are now hounding Artell. Fúck to all of it. I’m so fed up with it all.

Not strictly true. I thought getting rid of Hurst was a mistake and said so at the time. I also said Artell was a huge mistake to much derision. Where are the likes of Ska Face, who haven’t got much to say as we continue to drop like a stone.

Quoted from davmariner

Not strictly true. I thought getting rid of Hurst was a mistake and said so at the time. I also said Artell was a huge mistake to much derision. Where are the likes of Ska Face, who haven’t got much to say as we continue to drop like a stone.

Not sure I understand why you would be cross with Ska Face. What is it he’s supposed to have/have not said or done? I don’t have him near the top of my list of people I blame for this debacle.

Hurst would of taken us down his stats are terrible his squad he assembled is one of the worst i have seen.
Artell is floundering and looks like a man waiting for the sack he seems to have lost interest.
Bring Shaun and Ben back until the end of the season.

Quoted from Yoda

Hurst would of taken us down his stats are terrible his squad he assembled is one of the worst i have seen.
Artell is floundering and looks like a man waiting for the sack he seems to have lost interest.
Bring Shaun and Ben back until the end of the season.

Where were you saying this before Artell was appointed?

Very easy to female dog at decisions, very hard to make those calls at the right times.

i was not overwhelmed when Artell was appointed but he was probably the only option.
The Cowleys where not going to come here being southern based.

Square pegs in round holes … it’s that bloody simple what’s going wrong .

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

The truth is he inherited a team of underperforming players (bar one or two).

DA isnt a magician or a miracle worker and he needs time to get these underperforming performing.

It wouldnt have mattered who had taken over, they would still have had crap players to work with

True but you play to the players strengths, make them feel comfortable and don’t try to impose a style of play that quite obviously doesn’t work/creates too much pressure on an already leaky defence. That’s on the manager.

I think the criteria Stockwood and Pettit set probably meant Artell was the best available manager.

Remember Stockwood said in an interview available to us all to see that he is looking for a manager who wants to play the "Grimsby way"  and he defined that as a possession based game. Some managers may well have said to him "I can't do that with the current squad" and Stockwood and pettit may have decided those candidates were out of the running.

Then you have the fact that any new manager were required to work with the current coaching set up and there was no scope to bring in their own men, again this was stated publicly at the fans forum, now I think we all agree that most managers out there would prefer the chance to bring in their own men on the coaching team, so that may have ruled out several candidates