“If” Artell does go…..

Interesting that we find ourselves in the same sequence of fixtures that we were in when Hurst was sacked. Despite a more respectable defeat to Stockport than yesterday’s capitulation, Hurst couldn’t survive defeats to Colchester and Doncaster. I’d be surprised if Artell could.

If that happens, it feels like reverting to the more pragmatic, back to basics approach installed by Pearson and Davies is as good an option as any likely to be available to us.

I still cannot grasp that we are in this position. I just can’t fǔcking believe it.

I was told that the owners and the staff rate Shaun and that makes me think that if Artell gets himself fired - and he will if there are 3 or 4 more sh1t results in Feb and March and the entire fan base is in conflict with the manager and owners - then they would be content with that contingency plan and would hope to scrape through with a model that is more pragmatic and conservative. I suspect that Artell not bringing in his own assistant and basically being told that Shaun is the number 2 was precisely to provide some fall back if it goes t1ts - which it clearly has.

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I still cannot grasp that we are in this position. I just can’t fǔcking believe it.

I can. In the last 20 years we've either been near the bottom of League Two or the top of the National League almost all the time, a narrow range of about a dozen league places. The transition between these 12 places is the subject of over a million posts on here. Whatever we try and do we're always in roughly the same place.

Anyone under 30 will have known nothing else. Almost every manager that has been sacked is because we haven't been doing very well in League 2. It really seems to be the Grimsby Way.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

I think we will get a couple of results. He will be forced to play Vernam who will stretch teams and we are playing against weaker sides.
We were decent against Accrington, just a crazy way to set up against Stockport.

We were not decent against Accrington. They just had no attacking threat whatsoever. To put it into context, Accy have only scored one more goal than us so far this season.

Quoted from davmariner

We were not decent against Accrington. They just had no attacking threat whatsoever. To put it into context, Accy have only scored one more goal than us so far this season.

Accrington missed a golden chance right at the start of the game as well. Stockport punished almost every early mistake.

Think people are forgetting how new Shaun is to coaching.

Quoted from GrimRob

I can. In the last 20 years we've either been near the bottom of League Two or the top of the National League almost all the time, a narrow range of about a dozen league places. The transition between these 12 places is the subject of over a million posts on here. Whatever we try and do we're always in roughly the same place.

Anyone under 30 will have known nothing else. Almost every manager that has been sacked is because we haven't been doing very well in League 2. It really seems to be the Grimsby Way.

Yeah, interesting. I was going to ask ….’what is this Grimsby way’ thing? I presume it’s some notion of being a passing team that entertains and wins, but then, there’s nothing particularly exclusive to Grimsby about that. Doesn’t every club say that’s what they want?

Seems to me that ‘the Grimsby way’ means perpetually struggling to manage in the bottom division of the EFL despite having a bigger income and better support than more than half of whoever else occupies that league and shows us how it’s done better for and with less. This season see - Barrow, Morecambe, Harrogate, Accrington, Crawley, Salford, Wimbledon, Newport etc etc

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Nobody is going to give you an inch in professional sport, yet they seem to want to be all nice and cuddly with everyone.  

That extends to the team though. We’ve got nobody who is willing to do the dark arts other than Rose and Green. And Green’s shortcomings as a footballer have been discussed to death on here. Look at the second goal yesterday, Clifton literally jumps out the way to allow their quick free kick. Just fooking stand there and take the yellow to stop us going two down. I know Hurst liked having “good” characters but we need some nasty feckers in our team so we stop gift wrapping points to the opposition.

I posted in one of the threads yesterday, lose the next two games he should be toast.

I suppose it depends on how the owners feel about the excrement show that will come their way should we get relegated.