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White_shorts
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I'm really not sure why a training ground also needs to be a community hub anyway, surely the important thing here is finding adequate land and improving the facilities, we don't need a community centre and leisure centre complex or whatever on top of it. A football club training ground doesn't really spark a feeling of community to me anyway, not everybody in the community cares about sports or this football club, what else are they expecting to use it for?  


I always assumed Stockwood and Pettit's plan was for the players to use the pitches and gym fitness equipment in the morning, and then open the facilities to the public in the afternoon and evening.

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I've long advocated for a training facility to have all the things that, in a perfect world, you get with a new stadium on a large site. Community pitches, meeting rooms, business hub - all the things we say we can never have at BP because of the lack of room, and the astronomical cost of a new stadium.

If we can secure a large enough site then we can develop it over time to include things that can be used 7 days a week.

I don't know if that is the plan for this particular site, or whether the new training ground will be just for the players, but if you can't get what you ideally want (a super duper all encompassing new stadium) then you have to look at other and cheaper options.


I've been to meeting rooms at Old Trafford and Leeds and the ones we used were smaller than McMenemy's.

I've also visited BP a few times in the past few weeks and on a couple of occasions the car park was packed with meetings going on.
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Immingham is probably the best of both worlds and it’s an easy commute from Leeds, Sheffield, Lincoln and Hull so location wise is great might persuade a few more to sign.
As it’s an old golf course there will be a more mature setting with trees and grounds so way better than just an open field.
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Immingham is probably the best of both worlds and it’s an easy commute from Leeds, Sheffield, Lincoln and Hull so location wise is great might persuade a few more to sign.
As it’s an old golf course there will be a more mature setting with trees and grounds so way better than just an open field.


possibly the only sensible post you've ever made.Good, interesting point about the mature setting - nicer place to be, but also should provide shelter from the wind, so making training more productive & pleasant

https://arsenalcolumn.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/arsenal-style-of-play-shaped-in-part-by-the-wind/
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The smell of pure sulphur from the refinery will do wonders for the players lungs


You don't know a lot about refinery processes Jim, do you?


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possibly the only sensible post you've ever made.Good, interesting point about the mature setting - nicer place to be, but also should provide shelter from the wind, so making training more productive & pleasant

https://arsenalcolumn.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/arsenal-style-of-play-shaped-in-part-by-the-wind/


So instead of asking if a player could perform on a cold night in Stoke they should instead ask if they could do it on a windy day in Cleethorpes?


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I always assumed Stockwood and Pettit's plan was for the players to use the pitches and gym fitness equipment in the morning, and then open the facilities to the public in the afternoon and evening.



There are already plenty of facilities like that locally and I don't know of a single professional club that offers such a thing at their training ground. I'm sure somebody will name one though...Just leave out if it's some semi-pro club where all the staff are volunteers and they are desperate for money because those don't count.

Is this another one of those boomer pipe dreams people have where local kids will flock to the pitches and they'll magically discover local talent that will fill the team with local players who have that good ol Grimsby grit that will surely take us back to former glory? Otherwise I think the Trin and other such facilities already provide all that for kids.
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There are already plenty of facilities like that locally and I don't know of a single professional club that offers such a thing at their training ground. I'm sure somebody will name one though...Just leave out if it's some semi-pro club where all the staff are volunteers and they are desperate for money because those don't count.

Is this another one of those boomer pipe dreams people have where local kids will flock to the pitches and they'll magically discover local talent that will fill the team with local players who have that good ol Grimsby grit that will surely take us back to former glory? Otherwise I think the Trin and other such facilities already provide all that for kids.


Not as uncommon as you think. St George’s Park is open to the public and is the training ground for the national team. Most these facilities will often have facilities used by the pros and youth team and then facilities used by the general public. It’s a revenue stream and we should be maximising every single one we have.
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There are already plenty of facilities like that locally and I don't know of a single professional club that offers such a thing at their training ground. I'm sure somebody will name one though...Just leave out if it's some semi-pro club where all the staff are volunteers and they are desperate for money because those don't count.

Is this another one of those boomer pipe dreams people have where local kids will flock to the pitches and they'll magically discover local talent that will fill the team with local players who have that good ol Grimsby grit that will surely take us back to former glory? Otherwise I think the Trin and other such facilities already provide all that for kids.


I still see the idea of such facilities being a legacy of Fenty’s “community hub”, or whatever the hell he called it. Everyone knew that was just a ruse so he could get someone else to pay for a stadium - “but it’s not just for GTFC, it’s for everyone”, type of thing.
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It sure why it’s so hard to get your head around that the training facility (should/when it happen) will cost so much, owners don’t have bottomless pit or investors/sponsors yet - and said training facility if only used by club/youth/women’s/academies would be sat vacant for a proportion of the day. Know only too well the demand for pitches, particularly sept to April - so opening any up to public/clubs is common sense. Don’t understand why anyone would whinge at that in all honesty..


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