Jason Stockwood article in todays guardian - worth

Quoted from Mappers

The problem is ,like I have said before the standard to compare them with is that low ; Fenty and the vast majority of other club owners are so bad it's pretty easy to say they are good - us knowing they won't put the club in any sort of turmoil is certainly mind easing - I'm more interested where they see us going/want to take us . Why has the plan changed from 10 years to 5 is another interesting question for the panel .

Maybe it's like a football match - you set out your plan for the first-half. If it ain't working as you'd hoped, you change things at half-time
whilst consuming oranges. (I guess they don't do the oranges these days...   )

More seriously, how on earth could anyone offer a watertight plan for the next ten years given how much football has changed, and is changing?

I suspect the impact of VAR and the boom in women's football wouldn't have been foreseeable 10 years ago.

Who knows what the new Independent Regulator will do, and what impact that will have on the game?

What will be the impact of Manchester City being demoted to League 2 due to 'financial irregularities'? (Er...only possibly on that)

Any 10 year plan will need to be flexible, and perhaps binned entirely if the game changes fundamentally.

So I'm not too fussed about what the 10 year plan is, and if they want to do it in two halves that makes more sense to me given the above.

UTM

Quoted from Mariner_09

Reality is, they can talk about data and progress and all that corporate jargon as much as they like, but this is the first proper decision they've actually had to make.

They inherited Hurst, and even if they had input in the decision, it was such an obvious appointment, I don't think you can give them much credit or indeed blame had it gone wrong.

If they get this one wrong, fans will start to turn.

They're doing the best they can. What more do you want?

I suppose most fans will want to see results on and off the field in a reasonable time frame.

This board have a vision and a new way of doing things which is great, but people will only continue to be enthused by a combination of some prospects of success on the field and some definite plans for the infrastructure of the club.

The new management set up will hopefully give us renewed hope on the playing front, but all the clubs who are making, or have improved their standing in the game from a low base have had really substantial investment. It is just a fact of modern football life.

This is the part that worries me most. We really must have investment into the club before any fanciful notion of doing a Brentford or Brighton can even get out of the starting blocks.

They have made a solid start and I really appreciate the ethos that is behind their vision, but can it provide tangible results?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I suppose most fans will want to see results on and off the field in a reasonable time frame.

This board have a vision and a new way of doing things which is great, but people will only continue to be enthused by a combination of some prospects of success on the field and some definite plans for the infrastructure of the club.

The new management set up will hopefully give us renewed hope on the playing front, but all the clubs who are making, or have improved their standing in the game from a low base have had really substantial investment. It is just a fact of modern football life.

This is the part that worries me most. We really must have investment into the club before any fanciful notion of doing a Brentford or Brighton can even get out of the starting blocks.

They have made a solid start and I really appreciate the ethos that is behind their vision, but can it provide tangible results?

To even get mid to higher end league 1 we would need a decent level of investment you would suspect .

I am highly encouraged with the longer term vision for the younger players - giving Gardner,Conteh and Khouri 3 year contracts shows intent that we are giving them a chance to flourish ; you would hope at least one of those 3 will leave for a substantial fee creating some decent income .

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

They have made a solid start and I really appreciate the ethos that is behind their vision, but can it provide tangible results?

What sort of tangible on field stuff are you hoping for? Promotions? FA Cup Quarter Finals? Highest league finishes in 17 years? Stuff like that?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What sort of tangible on field stuff are you hoping for? Promotions? FA Cup Quarter Finals? Highest league finishes in 17 years? Stuff like that?

That was great but we are now in exactly the same position as when they took over - at the bottom end of League 2.

Looking back isn't really an option.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

That was great but we are now in exactly the same position as when they took over - at the bottom end of League 2.

Looking back isn't really an option.

So all you expect is continuous, uninterrupted progression and improvement? They've sacked PH and Doig which is fairly clear evidence that they weren't happy but if your expectation is for there never to be a bump and it just be continual linear improvement that that's ridiculous.  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Haven’t missed the point at all. Just slightly bemused by the perception that everything is going perfectly, when in reality it’s not.

You’re now joining that group who can only apparently deal with a binary or overstated assessment. Who is saying things are ‘going perfectly’? I don’t recall seeing anyone post that. At the other end are those wanting to smash the owners for either communicating too much or being silent. ‘Waffling, ‘crying’ and ‘pandering to luvvies’ are other dopey notions being shared. Somewhere In the middle are surely those of us who would say:

The last two league results have been better, with much better in-game management,  but horrible defensive performances are still the order of the day. We’d all like to see the management situation resolved either way, with a strong and thoroughly researched appointment. We’re all rightly saying that the league position is way below par. We’d all like to see new facilities moving forward and an improvement in results. There’s too much overstatement at both ends of the scale

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What sort of tangible on field stuff are you hoping for? Promotions? FA Cup Quarter Finals? Highest league finishes in 17 years? Stuff like that?

And who else achieved all of that?

Quoted from Mariner_09

And who else achieved all of that?

I presume you mean Hurst but I'm not sure what point you're making?