Just Back (Tranmere)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Some people are glass half full, some are glass half empty. Not everyone sees things the same way but, never mind eh, you’re right, they’re wrong.

You go on about being self righteous. Read your own words and tell me you’re not a hypocrite.

Glass half full is ok isn’t it. We do have shortcomings, weak links and areas for improvement. There’s lots to be critical of. The league position isn’t great. Our recurring frailties are frustrating and below what we should be striving for. Everyone wants and expects better. But we are behind the team, the players and the management/owners.

Booing and abusing your own players at the game or posting hysterical, entitled drivel on a forum isn’t where most normal people dwell is it. It’s unrealistic, it’s boring and it’s counterproductive. I’m not actually ‘going on’ about being self righteous. I’ve made one general point about it. It’s not a matter of who’s right and who’s wrong. You’re just underlining the point. There’s a mass of us in the middle with mixed feelings who can articulate and discuss all that calmly, lucidly with balanced, informed and critical opinions. It’s the wodge of bleating, entitled  and miserable chuggers I’m pointing at.

Quoted from Dodorondon

IBut who are these fans who are booing at the end of a drawn away game?  ‘All t

Fans that put their money and time to go to Tranmere.

Were you there ??

Quoted from ska face

Their first looks more like handball every time I see it -

https://www.skysports.com/watc.....eague-two-highlights

It wasn't it was off his chest.

We got away with one by waterfall during the pinball in our six yard box though.

Overall we had periods of dominance and periods of weakness, pyke had his best game for us but still missed a sitter. We were slightly the better team but we certainly weren't robbed of two points. 4 points out of the last 6 means enough to stabilse the position, we must now look to push on.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Fans that put their money and time to go to Tranmere.

Were you there ??

I’ve never quite really understood why some people see this as a reasonable excuse to hurl abuse at players/manager.

Fans pay to watch the game because it costs money to run a football club and charging people to watch the game helps pay the bills and I know I’m stating the obvious.

That money you pay doesn’t gift you a licence to abandon basic human etiquette and lay into people for trying to do their job.

If that were the case then there are a few people I would very happily pay their bosses good money to spend 90 minutes stood next to them detailing how they’re a waste of space. Don’t know them personally but hey, if that’s what buying a ticket does then it’s ok right?

Quoted from aldi_01

They’re not supporters, they’re probably just getting in now, flipping up the laptop and search for some spaff media, desperately searching for one that looks like the avoidant mother they so desperately crave. Finishing in a sports direct sock before embarking on a trip down meggies to swill some Dark fruits down their neck before walking back home, to their jizz stained sheets, but really happy because they booed their team…

I`ve had worse nights out.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I’ve never quite really understood why some people see this as a reasonable excuse to hurl abuse at players/manager.

Fans pay to watch the game because it costs money to run a football club and charging people to watch the game helps pay the bills and I know I’m stating the obvious.

That money you pay doesn’t gift you a licence to abandon basic human etiquette and lay into people for trying to do their job.

If that were the case then there are a few people I would very happily pay their bosses good money to spend 90 minutes stood next to them detailing how they’re a waste of space. Don’t know them personally but hey, if that’s what buying a ticket does then it’s ok right?

Your point assumes that some have `basic human etiquette`

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I’ve never quite really understood why some people see this as a reasonable excuse to hurl abuse at players/manager.

Fans pay to watch the game because it costs money to run a football club and charging people to watch the game helps pay the bills and I know I’m stating the obvious.

That money you pay doesn’t gift you a licence to abandon basic human etiquette and lay into people for trying to do their job.

If that were the case then there are a few people I would very happily pay their bosses good money to spend 90 minutes stood next to them detailing how they’re a waste of space. Don’t know them personally but hey, if that’s what buying a ticket does then it’s ok right?

I wasn’t there but watched on telly.
If I was there I wouldn’t have boo’d as I don’t think we were awful. But if people have paid and taken their time to go they are entitled to show their displeasure as long as it’s not over the top. I have in the past (at the end of a match) occasionally boo’d. This was followed by not going until we improved.  There is no point in going if you are not going to get behind the team initially.  I’m older now and so if I’m p1ssed off I just leave at the final whistle and don’t clap the players off.  
I’m not screaming for Hurst to go.  But if I was Jason and Co I’d certainly be having a bit of thought as to who may be available should things not improve.
UTM

Quoted from Civvy at last

I wasn’t there but watched on telly.
If I was there I wouldn’t have boo’d as I don’t think we were awful. But if people have paid and taken their time to go they are entitled to show their displeasure as long as it’s not over the top. I have in the past (at the end of a match) occasionally boo’d. This was followed by not going until we improved.  There is no point in going if you are not going to get behind the team initially.  I’m older now and so if I’m p1ssed off I just leave at the final whistle and don’t clap the players off.  
I’m not screaming for Hurst to go.  But if I was Jason and Co I’d certainly be having a bit of thought as to who may be available should things not improve.
UTM

Boo’ing is a bit more nuanced for me because I’m sure at times throughout following Town we’ve all had a good boo at some point, myself very much included. In retrospect I’ve also - more in younger years - been vocal against referees and linesmen which contradicts my point earlier. Thankfully a shred of maturity has calmed that frustration somewhat, and recognising that a twisted logic that I’m not there to support the referee doesn’t really change the fact he’s human.

Booing, however, I understand is a means of demonstrating displeasure and it’s hard to argue against it in some senses. Shy of hurling abuse or sending a letter of disapproval there aren’t many other means to showcase displeasure at something involving the game.

The difficulty with it is that it’s all a matter of opinion. As we’re seeing on here, there is a growing contingent of fans who think PH time is perhaps drawn to a close and we need to look elsewhere. Others can see some frustration but don’t believe the situation is bad enough for that drastic a change.

Each game will follow similar thread, some might be expecting Barcelona, some recognise there is another team trying to win too and balance their assessment to reflect. Both scenarios leave room for displeasure but the first group are pre-disposed to be unhappy as their expectation is unrealistic.

A good away point but I think I would have played Holohan from the start. I'm surprised that so many people don't realize what he brings to the team.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

Boo’ing is a bit more nuanced for me because I’m sure at times throughout following Town we’ve all had a good boo at some point, myself very much included. In retrospect I’ve also - more in younger years - been vocal against referees and linesmen which contradicts my point earlier. Thankfully a shred of maturity has calmed that frustration somewhat, and recognising that a twisted logic that I’m not there to support the referee doesn’t really change the fact he’s human.

Booing, however, I understand is a means of demonstrating displeasure and it’s hard to argue against it in some senses. Shy of hurling abuse or sending a letter of disapproval there aren’t many other means to showcase displeasure at something involving the game.

The difficulty with it is that it’s all a matter of opinion. As we’re seeing on here, there is a growing contingent of fans who think PH time is perhaps drawn to a close and we need to look elsewhere. Others can see some frustration but don’t believe the situation is bad enough for that drastic a change.

Each game will follow similar thread, some might be expecting Barcelona, some recognise there is another team trying to win too and balance their assessment to reflect. Both scenarios leave room for displeasure but the first group are pre-disposed to be unhappy as their expectation is unrealistic.

Fair play, it’s about different opinions.

For all that we’ve signed seemingly decent players, we look disjointed because we seem to flit around with formations and personnel. We’ve been decent in some periods of some games but we’re past the point where we should still be bedding in.

Much of my frustration is around the lack of cutting edge. First half at Bradford was case in point. That game should have been dead and buried.