To All Who Think Paul Hurst Should Go

Quoted from diehardmariner

Didn't someone work out that the FA Cup run worked out as about a £1million windfall.   Then Stockwood said Hurst would get a boost for his budget on the back of it.  Then we signed a couple of players for undisclosed fees (Conteh, Mullarkey, Vernam).

2+2 = £1million wasted.

Rose and Eastwood also.

You have to remember that sometimes in our division, the wages cost more than the transfer fee (£2k per week is is £104k). It could have gone towards wages for Eisa, Rodgers, Wilson or Gnahoua. We don't yet know how valuable Vernam will be over the long term, but positive signs with others.

Quoted from AncientExiledMariner

Rose and Eastwood also.

You have to remember that sometimes in our division, the wages cost more than the transfer fee (£2k per week is is £104k).

You have to also think of the contract length.3 year contract @ £100K is a £300K commintment!

Quoted from GrimRob

You have to also think of the contract length.3 year contract @ £100K is a £300K commintment!

Yes, fair point. It is spread over 3 years worth of income. If we're talking Conteh on £2k per week for 3 years (made up numbers). That's 300k. So buying class is not cheap. Maybe our wage budget might be £333k per year more with the extra million we get. We do not know.

The point I'm making is it isn't as simple as, thinking it's wasted when it may be spread over 3 years, and we may not yet have realised that full value yet.

What I don't get is that everyone on here seems to think that the whole '£1 million' (which is a guesstimated figure) has gone into the playing budget. I'm sure it has been mentioned or referenced on here that some of our windfall has been kept to one side to subsidise unavoidable ground improvements/alterations.

Even if it were the whole whack on the playing budget, as others have covered above, that has to be factored into wages which with a history of paying the minimum possible on players to the point of losing them, it's not unreasonable to think that our wage budget will inflate simply to pay even average players the going rate.

Where once we'd have lost out on an Eisa/Rose for the sake of £20 petrol money, I'd suspect we're now paying them according to their worth and this will add up. In the long run - in terms of our reputation within the pro game on how we value our players - it will hopefully be an improving trend window on window that will hopefully see us do well with recruitment.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

What I don't get is that everyone on here seems to think that the whole '£1 million' (which is a guesstimated figure) has gone into the playing budget. I'm sure it has been mentioned or referenced on here that some of our windfall has been kept to one side to subsidise unavoidable ground improvements/alterations.

Even if it were the whole whack on the playing budget, as others have covered above, that has to be factored into wages which with a history of paying the minimum possible on players to the point of losing them, it's not unreasonable to think that our wage budget will inflate simply to pay even average players the going rate.

Where once we'd have lost out on an Eisa/Rose for the sake of £20 petrol money, I'd suspect we're now paying them according to their worth and this will add up. In the long run - in terms of our reputation within the pro game on how we value our players - it will hopefully be an improving trend window on window that will hopefully see us do well with recruitment.

Let's hope there is enough left in the kitty to retain Eisa & Maher for a longer period - if they maintain their form there will be plenty of interest no doubt .

There's absolutely no chance we've spent £1million on players, be it fees or wages, over the summer.

The pot was increased, but that's it.

We would have had a budget for players regardless of a cup run and subsequent windfall.  Had we not signed Danny Rose on £1700 a week (I'm completely playing with numbers with here, I have no info on player wages) we would have signed someone else on £1200 a week.  

The cup run has enabled us to get into a conversation about better players and spend a little bit more than we did with those that have departed. It hasn't given us the whole budget.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

What I don't get is that everyone on here seems to think that the whole '£1 million' (which is a guesstimated figure) has gone into the playing budget. I'm sure it has been mentioned or referenced on here that some of our windfall has been kept to one side to subsidise unavoidable ground improvements/alterations.  

The FA Cup run has encapsulated the feelgood factor that has seeped into the club. Mariners have been on an upward trajectory since being taken over by boyhood fans Jason Stockwood and Andrew Pettit in January 2021. The pair have pledged to reinvest every penny earned from the FA Cup run – estimated to be around £1m – into next season’s playing budget, with the aim of assembling a squad that can compete at the top end of League

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/grimsby-fa-cup-giant-killing-run-re-energised-town-2212995

Quoted from BrMarin

The FA Cup run has encapsulated the feelgood factor that has seeped into the club. Mariners have been on an upward trajectory since being taken over by boyhood fans Jason Stockwood and Andrew Pettit in January 2021. The pair have pledged to reinvest every penny earned from the FA Cup run – estimated to be around £1m – into next season’s playing budget, with the aim of assembling a squad that can compete at the top end of League

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/grimsby-fa-cup-giant-killing-run-re-energised-town-2212995

Yeah it was definitely said by Stockwood the fa cup run money will all be going into the playing budget, don't know why people are trying to say that's been suddenly made up. People have had some goes at estimating that, some of it is known figures for TV or prize money for each round. £1 million was a conservative estimate.

Quoted from toontown

Yeah it was definitely said by Stockwood the fa cup run money will all be going into the playing budget, don't know why people are trying to say that's been suddenly made up. People have had some goes at estimating that, some of it is known figures for TV or prize money for each round. £1 million was a conservative estimate.

Just because an owner says £Xm will be going into the playing budget, it doesn’t mean it will be.

It’s like saying £36bn is going to be re-directed into alternative northern infrastructure projects…

I'm not disputing the 1 million figure, but it's not a lot of money in todays game, especially if it's been spread over the contracts of the next 2 or 3 seasons. Probably allowed us to bring in a bit better standard of player, by offering improved wages and contract lengths. It's not a panacea, and probably just allowed us to stay in contention, rather than jump miles ahead, given the levels of spending in League 2 now.

You just have to look at the article I linked to last week from Robbie Savage and the costs of running a club, even at level 7, is 2.4 million.