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Limerick Mariner
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We have Wilson and Khan to come back. Wilson and Rose upfront and drop Vernam to the bench for now. Khan on the bench as well - showed he was decent finisher when he got chances last season.

They’ve both played a lot at League 2 level and at 26 and 27 plenty of years left in their legs, may even be yet to peak, we’ll see.

We’d all like to sign someone like Luke Armstrong but it won’t happen. TBH as said elsewhere - probably the ideal signing to play with Rose would be McAtee…
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The money needs to come out this week for a new left back and a player who can score goals to play with Rose . I still can’t believe we haven’t addressed all this with the money and time we’ve had . If we finish below 10 th this season hurst should be sacked


Is everything in your life that simplistic or do you just save that for on here?


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I’m happy for the old ten games and see routine but what gets me is the lack of scoring chances .
I can accept lots of dull football if we’re winning , it’s harder to accept when we’re not
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The Salford, Mansfield and Notts County games weren’t dull. This is now sounding like a received idea mostly peddled by moaning twits who probably didn’t even watch them.


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7 points from losing positions but we didn't deserve anything from the Notts and Mansfield matches so it only really feels like 2 dropped for me. The frustrating thing about yesterday was the inevitability of it all. Failure to kill matches off continues as a problem into this season, but as someone alluded to further up that's the nature of the way Hurst plays. On the one hand it's steady and safe, but on the other you can argue it's really not as our fate often hinges on a defensive error or a missed/taken chance because we're constantly working with a single goal margin.
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Yes...but its indicative of the style and approach ......49 goals scored last season ?
Danny Rose yesterday had probably one true strikers chance in the game. I think he is more than capable of scoring the goals but needs more than 1 chance.



Ok - so I take it you weren’t too happy with how we played last season.

So we try and change it/improve things by buying a load of new players, but you’re not willing to give them time to gel and what’s more are judging the manager and team on last season’s output still? Even though more than half the starting 11 has changed and we signed like 10 players?

Do not get that, at all.


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September looks quite a tough month on paper as well. If we've only lost one game by the end of that month we''ll have done quite well. Scoring goals from distance by one player isn't a tactic that's likely to bear fruit for long though.


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Big issue in first few matches is lack of decent chances created
Mainly down to poor delivery from out wide - whether that be Mullarkey/Amos or Eisa/Vernam
Added to which you will not get many killer passes from Clifton and Holohan; you get 100% fitness, stamina, workrate commitment etc but not craft and composure

Harry is often asked to do things beyond his ability IMO - he should be our defensive midfielder who keeps things simple with 5/10-yard passes and let's the other front 5 (whoever that may be) be the outlets for skill/craft/composure

We had 65% possession yesterday but created two shots on target one of which was a wonder strike; we need bread an butter chances cos we can't rely on worldies

Hunt and Vernam should/could be great sources for final balls etc but the former is played too deep and the latter just rarely produces

I don't think it's not having a regular 20-goal a season striker it's more a case of creating chances on a regular basis

And as many have alluded to - I never ever feels safe at 1-0 up cos of reasons stated above

It's going to be huge problem in L2 - it needs solving if we are to move up and challenge the play off positions

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Sorry, meant to type “Moosey”.  The name was changed.


Here and now...not last season.....and if anything those games just add to the conundrum, bright positive front foot approach and unrecognisable from the League games.


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Ok - so I take it you weren’t too happy with how we played last season.

So we try and change it/improve things by buying a load of new players, but you’re not willing to give them time to gel and what’s more are judging the manager and team on last season’s output still? Even though more than half the starting 11 has changed and we signed like 10 players?

Do not get that, at all.


I am not too happy with how we played last season by and large.
Hurst has his positives no doubt ....but his style doesn't over please me.
Nicking a 1 goal win by percentage inhibited  football isn't my cup of tea, don't get me wrong it can be great if it's in the last minute....but its not a season long plan that I subscribe to.
It is early season, it is a new squad, there are injuries but there are Hurst career long traits showing and I don't honestly believe right now, that  even after 10-15 games the prognosis will be much different.

Hopefully something clicks.








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