Wrexham spending again !

You know what the saddest thing about MK Dons is? In trying to take shortcuts, at the expense of Wimbledon, they have in actual fact stunted their own growth.

How long did it take Wimbledon to completely reform and climb their way back to the league? About 8 or 9 years from memory. Milton Keynes already had a team playing 4 or 5 steps below the football league; had Charles Koppel / Pete Winkleman et al have bought them, taken them through the divisions and into that fine stadium, I suspect they’d, at the very least, be close to filling it in the Championship, as a legitimate club that the local community had bought into.

For context, Milton Keynes is roughly 3x the size of Burnley. I understand the maths that went into the idea to moving them from south London; their owners simply didn’t understand the hearts and minds of football fans, and so they remain largely unadopted by their own community and getting crowds that will continue to see them yo-yo-big between League’s One and Two. And it’s all their own fault.

They will be forever a missed opportunity. Too toxic for any genuine football fan to warm to, let alone support. And taking the thread back to its original topic, however it happens you cannot deny Wrexham’s likely place in the league next season. What’s happening there is unorthodox, but they’re a club with history and genuine fans, it’s financially sustainable and cleverly thought out. The complete opposite of the Bastárd Franchise Scum. I’m not sure how I could bring myself to hate the antithesis of that.

Ryan Reynolds will learn at some point his vision for Wrexham is dead in the pool.

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Just means they'll have to be a bit more organised next summer, that's all. I still think they will go straight through L2.

That’s my point. I don’t think Parkinson is capable of it.

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That’s my point. I don’t think Parkinson is capable of it.

Parkinson has a tough job, club inherits cash and expects results.  Remember Mark Hughes at Man City?  Give the guy some credit, yes he’s had a huge budget to work with but the league table at the moment says he’s delivering.

Come on County
Beat them to the title please

Parkinson is a dinosaur, I can see him being ousted when they’re back in the league and finding it tough.

I’d argue that the only reason they get results is because of the calibre of player rather than parkinson being some master tactician or motivator…

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Parkinson is a dinosaur, I can see him being ousted when they’re back in the league and finding it tough.

I’d argue that the only reason they get results is because of the calibre of player rather than parkinson being some master tactician or motivator…

It might be a while though until it gets to the point when the quality of manager is even an issue , if they hoover up Prem/champ players for league 2 they will probably go straight through -it will probably be a year or 2 later when they are against clubs with similiar or bigger warchests that they remove him if they are not getting results .

Is Reynolds in it for the long term though?

It's relatively easy to buy your way out of the NL. In our first stint there Fleetwood and Crawley did it, and then Luton following a lucrative cup run.  One to two million invested in the playing squad will get you out.

Promoted clubs seldom go straight through L2 though, if they are in a hurry to do so it probably involves a costly upgrade to the squad, but still chicken feed to a man or Reynolds's wealth. But getting further up the ladder involves a far more serious injection of funds.

Look at the clubs in L1 currently, Wednesday, Ipswich, Derby, these are large clubs. It took Sunderland years to escape. Lincoln have lost 6 million in the last four years and that gets them mid table. Millionaire owners of FGR and MK Dons see their cash buying relegation threatened sides.  So getting out of L1 will probably set him back an aggregate outlay running over the ten million mark.

And then what? The sums involved in mounting a promotion challenge in the Championship are astronomical. Derby spent £200 million without success. Preston, sitting mid table,  are reportedly over £60 million in debt. The Premier League £40 million parachute payments mean that relegated clubs start with a formidable war chest, which explains why clubs like Norwich, Fulham, Sheff Utd, and Bournemouth can yo yo between the divisions.

So buying a small club into L1 is certainly possible. But will Reynolds really want to hand over the huge sums to progress further? It may be that Netflix is footing the bill thus far. But again, they are a business and one assumes have no desire to lose a fortune for the sake of Wrexham.

So I think the Wrexham fans are going to have a great ride for another couple of seasons, but something tells me that it's not going to last. As soon as Reynolds finds a sports project closer to home the writing will be on the wall for them.        

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It might be a while though until it gets to the point when the quality of manager is even an issue , if they hoover up Prem/champ players for league 2 they will probably go straight through -it will probably be a year or 2 later when they are against clubs with similiar or bigger warchests that they remove him if they are not getting results .

It’s interesting isn’t it. There is an assumption that when they go up they’ll operate a squad with loads of players who are of the level you describe but will they?

Don’t forget though Wrexham will have money it’s unlikely they’ll be able to match salaries of good players from the top 2 leagues whilst in league 2. In fact after spending a lot to fail last season unless I’ve missed something to their credit they haven’t drafted loads of names to make it work this season.

They will have a good squad for sure, one that will see them be a good bet for promotion but getting a player to drop down from the prem or championship is a lot harder than attracting fee diving prostitutes like Mullin or limited ability lower league players like Tozer & Palmer.

Players who earn theirs salaries in multiples of £5k/£10k per week won’t move into what will still be relative obscurity compared to the top to leagues for an extra few grand and a feature length episode about them on a subscription channel.

Their traditional and new support deserves success and we know from experience what that can do in a Town that’s struggling so again that’s good news and I don’t begrudge them.

If I was the National league I’d be really worried when Wrexham & Notts go up as they’ve probably done more to attract attention to tin pot than anything those half @rsed amateurs who run it could think of. When they’ve gone up I can’t see many interesting stories in the National League to attract sponsors etc..

As for Parkinson he’s relatively safe as the owners don’t really know much about the game, if they start to understand he may (hopefully) be under a bit of pressure if things don’t go to plan and the Tv ratings drop.

Can't help thinking once Disney lose interest in the project and stop the series the owners will too.. great ride for the fans which will see them up a league or two in the future tho..