iFollow

Anyone heard if the club will be using iFollow again now we are back in the EFL.

Subscription service wasn't it, more money for the club?

I might be wrong on this, but I think in moving away from the wider EFL digital platform (website etc.) we have forfeited our ability to use iFollow as a club. There’s a list of clubs using iFollow here, and all appear to be on the EFL platform.

https://ifollow.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001274885-What-clubs-offer-iFollow-subscriptions-

It also suggests that clubs not on the iFollow service may run their own independent steaming option. I suspect this will be the more likely route for Town now.

While it is a good idea I hope that i-follow doesn't affect our fantastic away support

Quoted from Poojah

I might be wrong on this, but I think in moving away from the wider EFL digital platform (website etc.) we have forfeited our ability to use iFollow as a club. There’s a list of clubs using iFollow here, and all appear to be on the EFL platform.

https://ifollow.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001274885-What-clubs-offer-iFollow-subscriptions-

It also suggests that clubs not on the iFollow service may run their own independent steaming option. I suspect this will be the more likely route for Town now.

This is correct, you have to use their identikit websites which we binned off to use iFollow. I assume the club will put our own offering in place and I wonder how robust it will be against VPN users.

If only we had a techy CEO that would be able to take this in hand ....

If we did it ourselves perhaps we'd be able to get a multi-camera setup rather than the single camera set-up of iFollow. Wonder if we'd have to do our own in-house commentary or would put Humberside on-top like last time though, and how away games would work.

I reckon they'll go with ifollow again and just create a link between our new website and the iplayer part of the identikit website and hide the rest of it.

Quoted from BenBB

If we did it ourselves perhaps we'd be able to get a multi-camera setup rather than the single camera set-up of iFollow. Wonder if we'd have to do our own in-house commentary or would put Humberside on-top like last time though, and how away games would work.

I would think that the EFL and Sky would insist that their cameraman has to be on the gantry for the highlights show.

As for away games if the club is not part of the Ifollow system the home club would be very unlikely to allow a GTFC camera to do live streaming from their ground. However I would think that Town fans should be able to still log on to Ifollow via the home club and watch the game.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

This is correct, you have to use their identikit websites which we binned off to use iFollow. I assume the club will put our own offering in place and I wonder how robust it will be against VPN users.

It’s in the club’s interest for it not to be robust. More paying streamers

To be fair Ifollow was pretty decent when ever I watched it ,my only problem was it wouldn’t let me cast it to my telly

Quoted from grimps

To be fair Ifollow was pretty decent when ever I watched it ,my only problem was it wouldn’t let me cast it to my telly

Trick was to just use a normal laptop with a HDMI/DisplayPort and plug it in the old fashioned way.

Sam Strandt has said that the club are working on an alternative.  Pricing will be consistent with iFollow.

https://twitter.com/SamStrandt/status/1537137653178634240

I live in Atlanta, Georgia, and one thing I really missed last season was being able to watch Town games live. Radio commentaries are fine, and highlights are always enjoyable if we didn't lose, and those "Matchday Moments" packages are superb, and long may they continue, but obviously it's not the same as actually watching a game as it happens.  For people like me who live out of the country, every game, home and away, was available to watch live with an I-follow subscription. I'm really hoping I'll be able to do that again next season, and that most of the proceeds go to the club. I am sure there are quite a few of us spread around the world who would sign up at any reasonable cost.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Sam Strandt has said that the club are working on an alternative.  Pricing will be consistent with iFollow.

https://twitter.com/SamStrandt/status/1537137653178634240

I'll be watching, reads as if the club are moving in a new direction for those who cannot get to matches.

I wonder if it will be in-house will have more then one camera and probably have John Moore doing the commentary, I remember in the early 2000"s getting the season reviews on VHS and he used to do the commentary back then.

sorry for being thick, but what are the rules for ifollow now we are back in the FL?

i believe iFollow and other streaming services will only be available for 3pm Saturday blackout matches to those who live outside of the UK. It was last available to us as an alternative to live attendance as crowds weren't allowed at games due to COVID.

It'll be interesting to see how the new service by the club will handle Away games i.e will we need 1 season pass for home and one for iFollow away.

If there is a new service I hope we will be able to watch all of the games with some sort of season pass.

Quoted from spikelias

i believe iFollow and other streaming services will only be available for 3pm Saturday blackout matches to those who live outside of the UK. It was last available to us as an alternative to live attendance as crowds weren't allowed at games due to COVID.

It'll be interesting to see how the new service by the club will handle Away games i.e will we need 1 season pass for home and one for iFollow away.

Unless you used a VPN to mask your location.

Yeah I think the club will still be bound by the same rules that iFollow are.  So if you're a non-UK resident you'll be able to watch the games via the new service, as described by Sam Strandt, or I guess you could even sign up to watch it via the opposition iFollow feed (no cash to Town that way).

If you're in the UK, you're going down VPN routes.

The blackout is getting weaker and weaker, each season we're seeing more and more flexing of the rules on it.  Give it 5 years and it won't exist at all, definitely not in a state recognisable to this one anyway.  I can understand the argument for it but football has move on a lot in 20 years.  There's a greater appetite to attend games.  Granted, once Sky Sports start showing Man Utd v Brighton at 3pm on a Saturday there will be some who are swayed more to watch that at home than attend games.  But I'm not convinced that run of the mill game will impact Saturday gates that much.  Equally so, if someone is a 6 hour drive away from Blundell Park is it fair that they can't stream the game but someone a 2 hour flight away can?  

So if we stream ourselves,  does that mean we can't see away games that use ifollow?  

Quoted from Mayaman

So if we stream ourselves,  does that mean we can't see away games that use ifollow?  

I cannot see an away club letting GTFC stream from their ground so I would just expect to still have to have an account with ifollow to watch away games I couldn't get to.

I just think the Club should stay with IFollow because by the look of it the rules are set in stone
Which other EFL teams have an equivalent to Ifollow and if it was easy I think more would have done it by now👍

Quoted from Mikey_345

Unless you used a VPN to mask your location.

I couldn't condone the use of a VPN.  Programs like Cyberghost, NordVPN, ExpressVPN should not be able to bypass the blackout at a relatively low cost or even a free trial.  

Disgusting.

iFollow is just a platform used by League clubs to streem matches under the SkyBet deal. You can use your own platform and still get home and away games.

eg, We are playing Swindon away, swindon do not own the rights to broadcast/streem the match, SkyBet do. So SkyBet allow all clubs to streem all of their games.

Quoted from Deckhand

I just think the Club should stay with IFollow because by the look of it the rules are set in stone
Which other EFL teams have an equivalent to Ifollow and if it was easy I think more would have done it by now👍

Like the 26 clubs in the EFL that last season opted not to use iFollow?

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It's a platform that clubs don't like and the numbers that are moving away from it is increasing.  

Leyton Orient do a nice streaming package with pre-match build-up, post-match reaction etc. Here’s a snippet of it; admittedly not quite as polished as a professional TV production but it would be great if we could replicate something along similar lines.

https://youtu.be/LT5I43RgzwI

Quoted from Poojah

Leyton Orient do a nice streaming package with pre-match build-up, post-match reaction etc. Here’s a snippet of it; admittedly not quite as polished as a professional TV production but it would be great if we could replicate something along similar lines.

https://youtu.be/LT5I43RgzwI

It looks good to me.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Unless you used a VPN to mask your location.

I've never used VPN, does it do the trick?

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

iFollow is just a platform used by League clubs to streem matches under the SkyBet deal. You can use your own platform and still get home and away games.

eg, We are playing Swindon away, swindon do not own the rights to broadcast/streem the match, SkyBet do. So SkyBet allow all clubs to streem all of their games.

But the match still has to be filmed by someone and I still say that home clubs wouldn't allow a visiting camera crew in to film/stream the game so whether it be ifollow or some other service you would still have to subscribe to the home clubs service.

Under EFL rules home clubs only have to provide a spot for the away analyst to film from.

Quoted from GrimPol

I've never used VPN, does it do the trick?

Should do.

Quoted from arryarryarry

But the match still has to be filmed by someone and I still say that home clubs wouldn't allow a visiting camera crew in to film/stream the game so whether it be ifollow or some other service you would still have to subscribe to the home clubs service.

Under EFL rules home clubs only have to provide a spot for the away analyst to film from.

Under the agrement with SkyBet the home team has to film/streem their home games, but the rights to showing/streeming said game is with SkyBet not the home club. Skybet make it available to both home and away teams. Clubs can use iFollow or there own platform to stream/show the match.

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

Under the agrement with SkyBet the home team has to film/streem their home games, but the rights to showing/streeming said game is with SkyBet not the home club. Skybet make it available to both home and away teams. Clubs can use iFollow or there own platform to stream/show the match.

Actually the home team does not film the games they are filmed on behalf of the EFL for Sky and ITV by designated camera operators employed by an agency used by Sky and a live feed is sent through so Sky have access to live footage and the necessary equipment is installed in several places at BP.

In a similar way to being in the National League the club's own video crew filmed the game for the club but for the BT Sport highlights show they were filmed separately by students.

If GTFC was to film the games for Sky and ITV the camera equipment is going to be very expensive and will have to work with the transmitting equipment on the gantry.

I think i-follow, or similar, will be available for those fans who cannot make it to the game.
Looking at the list of clubs that do not use it, I can see that I have watched, last season, quite a few of those teams.
Sunderland, Bournemouth, Derby, Sheff Utd are just some of them I watched live.
UTM

https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/news/2022/july/statement-a-letter-to-the-efl-from-the-chairman/

"Accrington Stanley chairman Andy Holt has sent the following letter to the EFL:

I write to you to inform you that ASFC wants no part of your iFollow operation and as such insists the EFL ceases offering streams of our club with immediate effect.

To be clear we want no part in it. We do not want any income from it nor do we want others selling our LP.

For many years now I have argued that the income distribution is wrong, but the EFL wanders on ignoring the obvious.

The EFL taking our IP and allowing others to sell it for their private profit ends now.

When the EFL started this deliberately flawed concept, Accrington Stanley were amongst the clubs that refused to join, which was our right. Later the EFL board threatened my club with loss of income if we didn't join its project. It was coercion at a time when the club was just recovering from near bankruptcy. The board knew our clubs position then on iFollow and that position has hardened as the EFL pushes on blindly with its daft streaming plans.

Two days before the EFL summer conference, whilst I was in Majorca, we were informed by Email that there was to be no votes in regard to iFollow at the meeting. I objected to this because this gave me no time to prepare my argument nor was I able to attend to put my argument.

This is the usual EFL M.O. and it's embarassing. It's bounced on clubs at the last minute deliberately to avoid proper debate.

I contacted Steve Curwood, our L1 rep who responded that there would be no binding vote.

The day after he came back to me telling me he was wrong. It's a shambles of organisation.

I want to place on record that I support streaming as a collective.

If the proceeds were split equally as the collective TV deal is or, as with physical matchday tickets, the home club got the income, my club would happily participate.

Currently the EFL is taking away matchday income and taking away our streams against our wishes and allowing others to seel them on for their private gain. I do not know how anyone at the EFL can argue this is right or just.

Last week the EFL informed us that our home Boxing Day fixture against Barnsley is amongst ADDITIONAL fixtures to be streamed against our will.

This is not collective in any sense.

As the saying goes thanks for the offer, but sadly we're out."

Quoted from GrimPol

I've never used VPN, does it do the trick?

Yes, sometimes with issues. IP addresses get blacklisted, it's a case of choosing a different location. Had issues with NordVPN not having it at all. Surfshak relatively low cost and simple and always worked for me. Ifollow also available on IPTV, but I'd always pay for it as it's generally more reliable and goes to the club. I'd be at the vast majority of home games, a good portion of away games. Mainly Tuesday night away games for me, as I'm up early on Wednesday's.

Quoted from Manchester Mariner

https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/news/2022/july/statement-a-letter-to-the-efl-from-the-chairman/

"Accrington Stanley chairman Andy Holt has sent the following letter to the EFL:

I write to you to inform you that ASFC wants no part of your iFollow operation and as such insists the EFL ceases offering streams of our club with immediate effect.

To be clear we want no part in it. We do not want any income from it nor do we want others selling our LP.

For many years now I have argued that the income distribution is wrong, but the EFL wanders on ignoring the obvious.

The EFL taking our IP and allowing others to sell it for their private profit ends now.

When the EFL started this deliberately flawed concept, Accrington Stanley were amongst the clubs that refused to join, which was our right. Later the EFL board threatened my club with loss of income if we didn't join its project. It was coercion at a time when the club was just recovering from near bankruptcy. The board knew our clubs position then on iFollow and that position has hardened as the EFL pushes on blindly with its daft streaming plans.

Two days before the EFL summer conference, whilst I was in Majorca, we were informed by Email that there was to be no votes in regard to iFollow at the meeting. I objected to this because this gave me no time to prepare my argument nor was I able to attend to put my argument.

This is the usual EFL M.O. and it's embarassing. It's bounced on clubs at the last minute deliberately to avoid proper debate.

I contacted Steve Curwood, our L1 rep who responded that there would be no binding vote.

The day after he came back to me telling me he was wrong. It's a shambles of organisation.

I want to place on record that I support streaming as a collective.

If the proceeds were split equally as the collective TV deal is or, as with physical matchday tickets, the home club got the income, my club would happily participate.

Currently the EFL is taking away matchday income and taking away our streams against our wishes and allowing others to seel them on for their private gain. I do not know how anyone at the EFL can argue this is right or just.

Last week the EFL informed us that our home Boxing Day fixture against Barnsley is amongst ADDITIONAL fixtures to be streamed against our will.

This is not collective in any sense.

As the saying goes thanks for the offer, but sadly we're out."

This is phenomenal. I wonder if we are part of this conversation?

It would be nice to know what, as a club, we are doing regarding streaming of matches. Any news that can be shared?

Fingers crossed it's i-follow.
Simple, cheap and more than adequate for those that cannot make it to the game!

Quoted from Morris Minor

Fingers crossed it's i-follow.
Simple, cheap and more than adequate for those that cannot make it to the game!

It's definitely not iFollow, the club have confirmed that. We closed that door when we sacked off their website.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

It's definitely not iFollow, the club have confirmed that. We closed that door when we sacked off their website.

Did we sack off their website or did we get relegated out of the EFL?

Quoted from Mayaman

Did we sack off their website or did we get relegated out of the EFL?

Both. Ex-EFL clubs are not required to abandon the platform, and we continued to use it until the end of last year. My understanding is that the EFL digital platform (including iFollow) are not particularly commercially attractive for clubs, hence our move to self-owned solution.

With the club making their own and the fact we look like we will might have issues with capacity this season, it makes sense if they don't make their version too difficult for VPN's to beat  

Quoted from Mayaman

Did we sack off their website or did we get relegated out of the EFL?

We sacked off their website which we used for 6 years in non-league last time and the first few months of it last season. To use iFollow, you must have their website so we closed that door ourselves. More and more clubs are doing their own thing these days, iFollow or World as it used to be called is old and outdated now.

iFollow is an awful platform that regularly failed on a matchday and is slow and clunky. I also hate that it's one of those things you can sign up for on the website but to unsubscribe you have to email them and wait for them to get back to you, which could be after you've paid for another month of it. It should be illegal for companies to allow you to subscribe on the website but require you to email or call them to unsubscribe, it should be both available on the website.

Quoted from Kris2

iFollow is an awful platform that regularly failed on a matchday and is slow and clunky. I also hate that it's one of those things you can sign up for on the website but to unsubscribe you have to email them and wait for them to get back to you, which could be after you've paid for another month of it. It should be illegal for companies to allow you to subscribe on the website but require you to email or call them to unsubscribe, it should be both available on the website.

Depending on your internet connection iFollow worked very well during covid after a few teething problems imo

Quoted from Kris2

iFollow is an awful platform that regularly failed on a matchday and is slow and clunky. I also hate that it's one of those things you can sign up for on the website but to unsubscribe you have to email them and wait for them to get back to you, which could be after you've paid for another month of it. It should be illegal for companies to allow you to subscribe on the website but require you to email or call them to unsubscribe, it should be both available on the website.

I never had a problem with it and never paid a subscription, just the tenner for each game that I watched.

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From the horse's mouth, same stream/production as before just a different brand name to be expected.

Quoted from BenBB

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From the horse's mouth, same stream/production as before just a different brand name to be expected.

So when are we to get official confirmation from the club about what is to happen?

Quoted from DB

So when are we to get official confirmation from the club about what is to happen?

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'Soon'

Quoted from BenBB

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'Soon'

How 'soon' is soon? This week, before the season starts, 1st match at Orient or Christmas. Can you be more precise?, or is this a wind up

So if we do our own streaming of matches, I'm assuming that we cannot stream Saturday afternoon matches live, but when would we be able to see the stream.  Also will we be able to watch Weekday matches live?

Quoted from DB

How 'soon' is soon? This week, before the season starts, 1st match at Orient or Christmas. Can you be more precise?, or is this a wind up

Someone has asked Debbie today and she says ASAP.

[url]https://twitter.com/DebbieCGF/status/1543999066123767808?t=mf0QyXXvbmvnIWxxAIm7MQ&s=19[/url]

Quoted from DB

How 'soon' is soon? This week, before the season starts, 1st match at Orient or Christmas. Can you be more precise?, or is this a wind up

Being fit and able to go to BP is not a problem. When you have health problems it is, I made an effort and went to the London Stadium. During the match I felt cold on several occasions.

Asking questions about live streaming is essential to me, an email by me had previously been sent to the trust on this subject. I was able to watch Town live on Ifollow the season before last, so when somebody says 'soon' it is important to me, so I know what to look, or not to look, forward to.

Imagine the outcry if someone posted season tickets are available SOON!

I have received red cross's for my query and wondered why? I admit that I am not as eloquent as Poojah, whose posts I like, in my posts but these cowards hide behind keyboards having anonymous digs at the disabled.

Be brave enough and admit who you are.

We are all Town, aren't we

Quoted from DB

Being fit and able to go to BP is not a problem. When you have health problems it is, I made an effort and went to the London Stadium. During the match I felt cold on several occasions.

Asking questions about live streaming is essential to me, an email by me had previously been sent to the trust on this subject. I was able to watch Town live on Ifollow the season before last, so when somebody says 'soon' it is important to me, so I know what to look, or not to look, forward to.

Imagine the outcry if someone posted season tickets are available SOON!

I have received red cross's for my query and wondered why? I admit that I am not as eloquent as Poojah, whose posts I like, in my posts but these cowards hide behind keyboards having anonymous digs at the disabled.

Be brave enough and admit who you are.

We are all Town, aren't we

‘Kinell, don’t bring me into this…

For what it’s worth, I’m sure the club will be aware of the demand, officially, from overseas supporters and, unofficially, from those who can’t regularly attend games be it for geography or health-related reasons.

I would take ‘soon’ as before the start of the league season. The iFollow model was largely based on a ‘season ticket’ type subscription, and so I’m certain they’ll be working to have something live to cover all of our league and EFL Cup games.

Quoted from Poojah

‘Kinell, don’t bring me into this…

For what it’s worth, I’m sure the club will be aware of the demand, officially, from overseas supporters and, unofficially, from those who can’t regularly attend games be it for geography or health-related reasons.

I would take ‘soon’ as before the start of the league season. The iFollow model was largely based on a ‘season ticket’ type subscription, and so I’m certain they’ll be working to have something live to cover all of our league and EFL Cup games.

Please see my PM

Ive used Ifollow a lot while living abroad and it’s been a life saver being able to see the games , there’s a few tech issues now and again but nothing major.
If the club feels they can provide the same service and make themselves more revenue then fair enough

What was the deal with listening to the matches 2 seasons ago? One of the few good things about non league was being able to listen to the match commentary considering I am well out of normal range. As a non season ticket holder and an increasingly remote chance of being able to get match tickets, it would be good if I could listen to matches I can't make/ get tickets for. I watched loads on I follow 2 seasons ago but don't remember any option to listen to radio humberside, would pay a subscription for this for the new season.

Quoted from DB

How 'soon' is soon? This week, before the season starts, 1st match at Orient or Christmas. Can you be more precise?, or is this a wind up

I have no idea, hence the 'soon'. Just relaying what I heard when I asked on Twitter a while ago.

jamesgtfc's comment with the tweet from Debbie Cook says it should be inbound soon, definitely before the start of the season from what I'm hearing.

Quoted from 123614

So if we do our own streaming of matches, I'm assuming that we cannot stream Saturday afternoon matches live, but when would we be able to see the stream.  Also will we be able to watch Weekday matches live?

Believe it will be the same as the arrangement before COVID/relegation, based around the EFL/FA broadcasting blackout rules. Certain weekday/away games if you're in the UK or all the games if you're outside or have the knowhow (at least I hope so!).

So the club have confirmed it is basically the I follow product but under a different name, same production same tech different name.
That would then mean, I assume its the same quality, same issues and would still be the same original rules of regular schedule game times can't be streamed in the UK.

Quoted from moosey_club

So the club have confirmed it is basically the I follow product but under a different name, same production same tech different name.
That would then mean, I assume its the same quality, same issues and would still be the same original rules of regular schedule game times can't be streamed in the UK.

Someone I know films EFL matches. As I mentioned previously most if not all EFL/Sky/ITV (previously Quest) camera operatives are self employed and have been doing this sort of filming for years. They send a live feed direct from the gantry to a central studio that takes feeds from all EFL matches. The matches have a commentary added there as well as Sky taking the live feed so they can show goals as they happen. The matches are then edited for highlights to be shown on the Saturday evening which for the coming season will be on one of the ITV channels as well as giving a highlights package to each club.

Looking at the comments from the club it would seem that they will be using the same source so should be pretty robust rather than employing someone locally and having to invest in expensive equipment such as new cameras etc and its own streaming service.

I suppose the club are having to negotiate to have access to allow that live feed to be played out on their own website rather than Ifollow.




  

I liked the fact (on ifollow) that they used radio hunbersides commentary and not some random person with no affiliation with the club. JT’s dulcet tones work perfectly with the footage.

Am presuming it would be just the one camera angle and they wouldn’t be having static cameras on the osmond/pontoon to feature goalmouth action

Quoted from DB

Being fit and able to go to BP is not a problem. When you have health problems it is, I made an effort and went to the London Stadium. During the match I felt cold on several occasions.

Asking questions about live streaming is essential to me, an email by me had previously been sent to the trust on this subject. I was able to watch Town live on Ifollow the season before last, so when somebody says 'soon' it is important to me, so I know what to look, or not to look, forward to.

Imagine the outcry if someone posted season tickets are available SOON!

I have received red cross's for my query and wondered why? I admit that I am not as eloquent as Poojah, whose posts I like, in my posts but these cowards hide behind keyboards having anonymous digs at the disabled.

Be brave enough and admit who you are.

We are all Town, aren't we

I didn't red cross but I would have done if I used the function. Even after reading this the reason would still be the same; the club first of all need to know what they are legally allowed to do. I'm sure this will likely have been sorted by now but they will be in the hands of lawyers and a system of enquiries to ensure they don't fall foul of any laws that impact the service and the finances of the Club and if that process only started after promotion (when we knew we'd need it) then it is possible we're still involved in it.

Within that may be restrictions on what/when we can stream, i.e. live on Saturday afternoon or extended highlights after the game. Hopefully not but I have zero idea. Then there is ensuring we have the equipment for it. I'd imagine we do as we've had footage from games even in non-league but they may be looking at upgrades to make the image better or sound upgrades. I'm not tech savvy but I would have thought upgrades of some sort are within the scope of possible.

I would be almost certain in the Club wanting to make sure that everything is fully in place before announcing the plan and what will be happening, how bad would it look if they announced a service that people were excited about only for it to be not possible and retraction made?

I get that you want something to look forward to, I'm very similar as I'm out the country for the first 4 months of the season so being able to watch on a streaming service would be perfect but whether they announce it today, tomorrow or a week before the season it won't change what is on offer. If it's a live stream then that will be great for so many who aren't able to get to games, if we're not allowed for whatever reason and it's highlights then as sh/t as that would be there will have to be a reason and when it's announced will have no bearing on that.

You asked for red crossers to be brave and admit, I didn't red cross but above is the reason why I would have done. Your original post came across demanding, impatient and critical of the Club at a time when they're obviously working to get something in place amongst many other things and progressing the Club so well in such a short space of time. Again, recognition of the personal impact it may have on you (and others) but I think the Club have earned a degree of patience from fans given what they've accomplished in the last 12 months.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I didn't red cross but I would have done if I used the function. Even after reading this the reason would still be the same; the club first of all need to know what they are legally allowed to do. I'm sure this will likely have been sorted by now but they will be in the hands of lawyers and a system of enquiries to ensure they don't fall foul of any laws that impact the service and the finances of the Club and if that process only started after promotion (when we knew we'd need it) then it is possible we're still involved in it.

Within that may be restrictions on what/when we can stream, i.e. live on Saturday afternoon or extended highlights after the game. Hopefully not but I have zero idea. Then there is ensuring we have the equipment for it. I'd imagine we do as we've had footage from games even in non-league but they may be looking at upgrades to make the image better or sound upgrades. I'm not tech savvy but I would have thought upgrades of some sort are within the scope of possible.

I would be almost certain in the Club wanting to make sure that everything is fully in place before announcing the plan and what will be happening, how bad would it look if they announced a service that people were excited about only for it to be not possible and retraction made?

I get that you want something to look forward to, I'm very similar as I'm out the country for the first 4 months of the season so being able to watch on a streaming service would be perfect but whether they announce it today, tomorrow or a week before the season it won't change what is on offer. If it's a live stream then that will be great for so many who aren't able to get to games, if we're not allowed for whatever reason and it's highlights then as sh/t as that would be there will have to be a reason and when it's announced will have no bearing on that.

You asked for red crossers to be brave and admit, I didn't red cross but above is the reason why I would have done. Your original post came across demanding, impatient and critical of the Club at a time when they're obviously working to get something in place amongst many other things and progressing the Club so well in such a short space of time. Again, recognition of the personal impact it may have on you (and others) but I think the Club have earned a degree of patience from fans given what they've accomplished in the last 12 months.

I wasn't aware I was being critical of the club, which I constantly praise in my other posts.

BenBB on post 49 put 'Soon'. Given the number of hoax posts using 'incoming' on another thread, I merely want to know if 'soon' was also a hoax or something within a definite time scale.

I think this was a fair question to ask.

Quoted from DB

I wasn't aware I was being critical of the club, which I constantly praise in my other posts.

BenBB on post 49 put 'Soon'. Given the number of hoax posts using 'incoming' on another thread, I merely want to know if 'soon' was also a hoax or something within a definite time scale.

I think this was a fair question to ask.

You'll have to forgive that I'm still quite new and haven't quite got posters general themes/demeanours as they go, so I don't doubt you are complimentary of the Club. That's just how it read when going through the messages, I'm sure its a lost in translation type thing with it only being written, but I picked up on your second response about people red crossing so that's what I figured I'd offer up some thoughts on as this might be a similar thought of others as to why they hit the button.

So does that mean that those smug cheaty techies that have downloaded dodgy apps on thier firestick and other devices won't be able to access the stream for free?

Depends if their IPTV provider taps into the model that Town are using or not.

I've seen...err, I mean I've heard of, some providers who supplied streaming feeds from clubs that don't use iFollow but not all providers do this.  Dagenham away in the FA Cup two seasons ago was available on IPTV.

The above is for home games, for away games (as long as the home club are signed up to iFollow) those that have such kit and subscription will most likely be able to pick up the feed from which ever club.

ITV4 will show highlights of the EFL on Sat at 9pm

Just browsing through the fixture list and I've counted 16 league games (10 home & 6 away) that can definitely be broadcast LIVE on our iFollow replacement in the U.K.:-

Tue 16 Aug - 19:45 - CARLISLE UNITED (HOME)
Tue 13 Sep - 19:45 - GILLINGHAM (HOME)
Sat 24 Sep - 15:00 - SWINDON TOWN (HOME)
Tue 25 Oct - 19:45 - Barrow (Away)
Sat 19 Nov - 15:00 - STEVENAGE (HOME)
Sat 03 Dec - 15:00 - AFC Wimbledon (Away)
Sat 10 Dec - 15:00 - TRANMERE ROVERS (HOME)
Sat 17 Dec - 15:00 - Mansfield Town (Away)
Mon 26 Dec - 15:00 - Harrogate Town (Away)
Thu 29 Dec - 19:45 - SALFORD CITY (HOME)
Sun 01 Jan - 15:00 - STOCKPORT COUNTY (HOME)
Tue 14 Feb - 19:45 - Gillingham (Away)
Sat 25 Mar - 15:00 - WALSALL (HOME)
Fri 07 Apr - 15:00 - HARTLEPOOL UNITED (HOME)
Mon 10 Apr - 15:00 - Doncaster Rovers (Away)
Tue 18 Apr - 19:45 - BARROW (HOME)

And there are a further 3 league matches (all home) that are vulnerable to kick-off time alterations that would allow LIVE broadcasting also. 2 local games & the final game of the season:-

Sat 12 Nov - 15:00 ? - DONCASTER ROVERS (HOME)      
Sat 15 Apr - 15:00 ? - MANSFIELD TOWN (HOME)      
Sat 06 May - 15:00 ? - AFC WIMBLEDON (HOME)     

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

So does that mean that those smug cheaty techies that have downloaded dodgy apps on thier firestick and other devices won't be able to access the stream for free?

Bare cheek haha

I thought we were not able to watch live matches that started at 3pm on a Saturday?

Quoted from 123614

I thought we were not able to watch live matches that started at 3pm on a Saturday?

International breaks are excluded from the blackout,

Ahh, I see, thanks.

If your IPTV supplier is half decent, you should be able to watch all Towns 46 Div 2 games next season, 3pm KO or not.
Also, any of the other 91 teams if Town is not your first choice.

Quoted from monkeyboy

Bare cheek haha

Doesn't  matter what questions you ask as long as you get the answer you want.

Quoted from Morris Minor

If your IPTV supplier is half decent, you should be able to watch all Towns 46 Div 2 games next season, 3pm KO or not.
Also, any of the other 91 teams if Town is not your first choice.

Have you heard of one?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Just browsing through the fixture list and I've counted 16 league games (10 home & 6 away) that can definitely be broadcast LIVE on our iFollow replacement in the U.K.:-

Tue 16 Aug - 19:45 - CARLISLE UNITED (HOME)
Tue 13 Sep - 19:45 - GILLINGHAM (HOME)
Sat 24 Sep - 15:00 - SWINDON TOWN (HOME)
Tue 25 Oct - 19:45 - Barrow (Away)
Sat 19 Nov - 15:00 - STEVENAGE (HOME)
Sat 03 Dec - 15:00 - AFC Wimbledon (Away)
Sat 10 Dec - 15:00 - TRANMERE ROVERS (HOME)
Sat 17 Dec - 15:00 - Mansfield Town (Away)
Mon 26 Dec - 15:00 - Harrogate Town (Away)
Thu 29 Dec - 19:45 - SALFORD CITY (HOME)
Sun 01 Jan - 15:00 - STOCKPORT COUNTY (HOME)
Tue 14 Feb - 19:45 - Gillingham (Away)
Sat 25 Mar - 15:00 - WALSALL (HOME)
Fri 07 Apr - 15:00 - HARTLEPOOL UNITED (HOME)
Mon 10 Apr - 15:00 - Doncaster Rovers (Away)
Tue 18 Apr - 19:45 - BARROW (HOME)

And there are a further 3 league matches (all home) that are vulnerable to kick-off time alterations that would allow LIVE broadcasting also. 2 local games & the final game of the season:-

Sat 12 Nov - 15:00 ? - DONCASTER ROVERS (HOME)      
Sat 15 Apr - 15:00 ? - MANSFIELD TOWN (HOME)      
Sat 06 May - 15:00 ? - AFC WIMBLEDON (HOME)     

Mariners TV announced and my list of live UK games confirmed.